CNLP 722 | When No One Trust Pastors Anymore: Glenn Packiam on The Nex-Gen Church Leader Mental Health Crisis And The Difference Between Being Weary and Wounded

Organizational consultant Andrew Mellen returns to the podcast to discuss the three rules he uses to help leaders organize their work and home life for mental clarity. Plus, why clutter is deferred decision making, and why you should never email a co-worker.  🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   THE CHURCH NETWORK Feeling overwhelmed in church operations? You’re not alone. Learn more and register today at thechurchnetwork.com/Conference. SUBSPLASH Go to subsplash.com/carey to schedule a quick, no-obligation demo and save $500 when you sign up. CHURCH.TECH Head to ai.church.tech and use the promo code CAREY and receive your first month for FREE.   Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network

Real estate mogul Mark Faris talks about going from being cut from professional hockey to becoming the #1 real estate agent and company in the nation. He explains what it took to become #1 in his field, how to break through leadership ceilings, and what every leader can learn to keep growing and improving. 🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   VISITORREACH VisitorReach is an all-in-one platform to help churches grow. Churches that partner with VisitorReach connect with 20 to 120 new people each month and see new visitors walking through their doors weekly! Learn more today at VisitorReach.com/Carey!   GLOO Every month, Gloo+ allows you to send up to 50 personalized postcards to new residents in your area—welcoming them, inviting them to service, and making your church their new home. Visit http://gloo.com/plus and start welcoming new families today!     Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network

John Eldredge asks whether 30 is too young to be a lead pastor (and what to do if you're in your 20s or 30s and leading a large church). He also talks about finding spiritual authority and the stages every man goes through in life, from warrior to king to sage. 🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   COMPASSION Did you know that partnering with Compassion helps fulfill your church's call to The Great Commission? Bring this mission focus to YOUR church, and then watch God use YOUR church to impact the world. http://www.compassion.com/carey STATE OF THE CHURCH Access the latest research being released about the church. Go to stateofthechurch.com/carey.     Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network

Levi Lusko opens up about navigating a mid-life crisis in ministry at 38 and identifying wounds that become a ticking time bomb. Plus, Levi and Carey explore the mixed motives and gifting of preachers. 🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   COMPASSION Did you know that partnering with Compassion helps fulfill your church's call to The Great Commission? Bring this mission focus to YOUR church, and then watch God use YOUR church to impact the world. http://www.compassion.com/carey       Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network

Carey Nieuwhof takes the top questions young leaders submitted about ambition and how it works for and against you. Plus, he discusses media consumption habits, being a 'professional" Christian because you work on staff, and how to fire people (well).  🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   GLOO INSIGHTS Track attendance, giving, salvations, and volunteers in real-time. Compare numbers year-over-year, across campuses, or even against national trends. https://gloo.com/insights     Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network

Glenn Packiam talks about how to pastor in an age where no one trusts pastors, the church leader mental health crisis (especially among next-gen leaders), and the difference between being weary and being wounded in leadership.   🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   GLOO AI Train Gloo AI on your church’s own documents, policies, and beliefs—so your team and congregation get trustworthy, on-brand answers instantly. Go to https://ai.gloo.com/   BELAY Download BELAY’s free guide to delegation today: 25 Things to Stop Doing in 2025.   Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network

In an incredibly candid conversation, Gabe and Rebekah Lyons open up about their 28-year marriage. They discuss how they fight about everything, sex, navigating two careers, parenting, and how, despite all the very real challenges, they've made it through. 🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   THE ART OF PREACHING BREAKTHROUGH GUARANTEE Until April 11th, I'm offering a Preaching Breakthrough Guarantee with my course, The Art of Preaching. If you don't see a difference in your preaching, just email me by August 31st for a complete and immediate refund.   SUBSPLASH Go to subsplash.com/carey to schedule a quick, no-obligation demo and save $500 when you sign up.   CHURCH.TECH CHURCH.tech AI is completely customizable to your church.  Go to CHURCH.tech and enter the promo code CAREY at checkout for 25% off for the first 3 months.   Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network

Mark Sayers brings astonishing insight to the rapid cultural, economic, and political change we're seeing right now in America and globally. Carey and Mark cover why woke broke, the massive upheaval of the status quo being ushered by Trump and his cadre, and how to find hope for the church in the new global chaos. 🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   GLOO FEED Text 'carey' to 46816   THE CHOSEN The Chosen: Last Supper is in theaters now, and it’s the must-see event of the Easter season.  Grab your tickets for all three parts today at TheChosenLastSupper.com   TENX10 Access your free NextGen Simple Mentoring toolkit. Head over to simplementoring.org today and download the Simple Mentoring Jumpstart for Senior Pastors.   Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network

In this episode, Kara Powell discusses why teens and young adults don't trust the church. Plus, Carey and Kara talk about why young women are dropping out of church, why young men are leaning in, and the keys to reaching Gen Z and Gen Alpha. 🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   GLOO Easter is the most attended Sunday of the year—and it’s less than 3 weeks away. Are you ready to connect with every visitor who walks through your doors? Get Gloo Messaging set up TODAY so you’re ready to connect when it matters most. Sign up for free at gloo.us/messaging.   THE CHOSEN The Chosen: Last Supper is in theaters now, and it’s the must-see event of the Easter season.  Grab your tickets for all three parts today at TheChosenLastSupper.com   Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network

Warren Bird and Adelle Banks share data and case studies on what you need to do to make your church future-ready and to experience church growth. Plus, they go deep on what happens when Christians become the minority in the US and the surprising reasons people give for not attending church.   🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   STATE OF THE CHURCH Check out the latest research about the Church in the United States. Just go to StateofTheChurch.com/carey. BELAY For over a decade, BELAY has matched busy leaders like you with the support they need to start delegating. Download BELAY’s free guide to delegation today: 25 Things to Stop Doing in 2025.   STUDIOC Take StudioC's Member Engagement Assessment to see how you can engage your people better. Take the free assessment today at thestudioc.org/carey   Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network