Rick Rubin interviewed by Ian Rogers (Bonus episode)

Dr. Andrew Huberman is a neuroscientist and tenured professor of neurobiology, psychiatry, and behavior sciences at Stanford School of Medicine. His research centers on brain development, neural plasticity, and how vision and respiration shape human performance and cognitive function. Beyond his work in academia, Huberman is the creator and host of the Huberman Lab podcast, the world’s leading health podcast, where he shares science-based insights on brain and body optimization. Exploring how to improve mental and physical health alike, he is also the author of the upcoming book Protocols: An Operating Manual for the Human Body.

Mark Ronson is a record producer, DJ, and songwriter. Beginning his career in the mid-1990s as a DJ, he gained wide recognition in 2006 for his work with Amy Winehouse and Christina Aguilera, earning Producer of the Year for Winehouse’s Back to Black. Over his career, he has earned nine Grammy Awards, along with a Golden Globe and an Academy Award, for projects including “Uptown Funk” with Bruno Mars and “Shallow” from the A Star is Born soundtrack. Ronson has released five solo albums, formed the duo Silk City with Diplo, founded Zelig Records in 2018, and served as lead and executive producer of the Barbie movie soundtrack. His memoir, Night People, is a reflection on his life in music and the culture that shaped it, and it will be published on September 16, 2025. ------ Thank you to the sponsors that fuel our podcast and our team: Athletic Nicotine https://www.athleticnicotine.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Squarespace https://squarespace.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ LMNT Electrolytes https://drinklmnt.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Sign up to receive Tetragrammaton Transmissions https://www.tetragrammaton.com/join-newsletter

In this bonus episode, Ian Rogers turns the tables and interviews Rick Rubin, recently named one of TIME Magazine’s 100 Most Influential People in AI, about The Way of Code: The Timeless Art of Vibecoding. Ian Rogers is a pioneering executive whose career spans music, luxury, and crypto, with leadership roles at Beats Music, Apple, LVMH, and now Ledger. ------ Thank you to the sponsors that fuel our podcast and our team: Athletic Nicotine https://www.athleticnicotine.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Sign up to receive Tetragrammaton Transmissions https://www.tetragrammaton.com/join-newsletter

Ian Rogers is a technology and business executive whose career spans music tech, luxury retail, and crypto. He began by building early music websites in the 90s, including one for hip-hop group The Beastie Boys, before leading digital music at Yahoo!. Rogers went on to serve as CEO of Topspin and then Beats Music, which was acquired by Apple. In 2015, he became Chief Digital Officer at LVMH, helping modernize digital strategy across its portfolio of luxury brands. Since 2020, he has been Chief Experience Officer at Ledger, where he oversees consumer strategy for the crypto hardware company. ------ Thank you to the sponsors that fuel our podcast and our team: LMNT Electrolytes https://drinklmnt.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Athletic Nicotine https://www.athleticnicotine.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Squarespace https://squarespace.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Sign up to receive Tetragrammaton Transmissions https://www.tetragrammaton.com/join-newsletter

Randall Wallace is a screenwriter, director, and producer. He is best known for writing the screenplay of "Braveheart", later making his directorial debut with "The Man in the Iron Mask", and going on to direct "We Were Soldiers", "Secretariat", and "Heaven Is for Real". Braveheart became a critically and commercially successful film, winning multiple Academy Awards and earning Wallace a nomination for Best Original Screenplay. He is the author of Living the Braveheart Life, part-autobiography and part-masterclass, in which he shares the personal journey behind writing Braveheart and explores the life lessons and archetypes within the story that continue to inspire audiences.  ------ Thank you to the sponsors that fuel our podcast and our team: Squarespace https://squarespace.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ LMNT Electrolytes https://drinklmnt.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Athletic Nicotine https://www.athleticnicotine.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Sign up to receive Tetragrammaton Transmissions https://www.tetragrammaton.com/join-newsletter

Bernard MacMahon is a filmmaker, most recently directing Becoming Led Zeppelin, a music documentary that holds the record for the highest-grossing opening weekend across IMAX theaters worldwide and is currently the highest-grossing documentary of 2025. He gained international acclaim with the American Epic series, which chronicles the origins of American roots music and the revolutionary impact of early sound recording technology. MacMahon has been recognized for his groundbreaking approach to documentary filmmaking, blending historical research, rare archival footage, and innovative audiovisual storytelling. His work has earned multiple prestigious awards, including audience honors at major film festivals, Emmy, BAFTA, and Grammy nominations and wins. Becoming Led Zeppelin was released in IMAX on February 7, 2025, with a wider cinema release following on February 14, 2025. The film is streaming now on Netflix, Apple TV, and Amazon Prime Video.  ------ Thank you to the sponsors that fuel our podcast and our team: Athletic Nicotine https://www.athleticnicotine.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Squarespace https://squarespace.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ LMNT Electrolytes https://drinklmnt.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Sign up to receive Tetragrammaton Transmissions https://www.tetragrammaton.com/join-newsletter

Ed Ruscha is an artist whose six-decade career spans painting, photography, printmaking, film, and book art. His first artist’s book, Twentysix Gasoline Stations—featuring 26 photographs taken along Route 66—marked the beginning of his ongoing exploration of the interplay between image and text, while later works such as Tulsa Slut and The End expanded this approach across different media. He draws inspiration from magazines, comics, and newspapers, experimenting with inventive materials like blackberry juice, chocolate, and gunpowder to explore the legibility and permanence of words. His work has been featured in major exhibitions including, most recently, ED RUSCHA / NOW THEN at MoMA in 2023 and LACMA in 2024, along with solo shows in Gagosian galleries worldwide. ------ Thank you to the sponsors that fuel our podcast and our team: LMNT Electrolytes https://drinklmnt.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Athletic Nicotine https://www.athleticnicotine.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Squarespace https://squarespace.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Sign up to receive Tetragrammaton Transmissions https://www.tetragrammaton.com/join-newsletter

Dr. Joe Dispenza is an author, researcher, and lecturer whose work bridges neuroscience, epigenetics, and quantum physics to explore the science of personal transformation. Known for books like New York Times bestseller You Are the Placebo, Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself, and Evolve Your Brain, he teaches how meditation and self-regulation can lead to measurable changes in health and consciousness. He leads workshops and lectures internationally, and he is recognized for integrating scientific approaches to understanding how thoughts and beliefs can influence physical and mental well-being. Spots are still available for Dr Joe's upcoming Nashville Week Long Retreat on September 14-20, 2025. Now through September 13, enjoy $400 off registration. Register here. For other upcoming retreats and events, explore the full schedule here. ------ Thank you to the sponsors that fuel our podcast and our team: Squarespace https://squarespace.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ LMNT Electrolytes https://drinklmnt.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Athletic Nicotine https://www.athleticnicotine.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Sign up to receive Tetragrammaton Transmissions https://www.tetragrammaton.com/join-newsletter

Bob Pittman is the former CEO of MTV Networks and co-founder of MTV. Beginning his career in media at age 15 as an on-air radio announcer, he went on to play a central role in launching MTV in 1981, targeting a youth audience with music video programming. Throughout his career, Pittman has held executive positions at several prominent companies, including AOL Networks, Six Flags Theme Parks, Quantum Media, and Time Warner Enterprises. He currently serves as the CEO of iHeartMedia, overseeing 863 radio stations in 160 cities across the United States and operating on an annual revenue of over $3.5 billion. ------ Thank you to the sponsors that fuel our podcast and our team: Athletic Nicotine https://www.athleticnicotine.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Squarespace https://squarespace.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ LMNT Electrolytes https://drinklmnt.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Sign up to receive Tetragrammaton Transmissions https://www.tetragrammaton.com/join-newsletter

Ian Astbury is the longtime frontman and founding member of The Cult. He began his music career in 1980, initially gaining recognition with the post-punk group Southern Death Cult. The band later evolved into The Cult, with guitarist Billy Duffy, bassist Jamie Stewart, and drummer Raymond Taylor Smith. Known for their blend of post-punk, gothic rock, and hard rock, The Cult released several successful albums throughout the 1980s and 1990s, including Love, Electric, and Sonic Temple, featuring hits such as “She Sells Sanctuary,” “Love Removal Machine,” and “Fire Woman.” Astbury continues to lead The Cult in the present day, most recently fronting the band on their 2025 North American tour, which features music from both The Cult and their earlier incarnation. ------ Thank you to the sponsors that fuel our podcast and our team: LMNT Electrolytes https://drinklmnt.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Athletic Nicotine https://www.athleticnicotine.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Squarespace https://squarespace.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Sign up to receive Tetragrammaton Transmissions https://www.tetragrammaton.com/join-newsletter