276: Nature's Path for Neurodivergent Boys: Beyond the Autism Diagnosis

In this episode, Will is joined by Chris Blankenship, founder of Autism Learning Lab and former wilderness therapy psychotherapist. Chris shares how years in the field led him to recognize a growing number of young men arriving in treatment with undiagnosed autism—often masked by anxiety, depression, or substance use. He explains how his work at the Autism Learning Lab now supports adolescents and young adults through individualized coaching, family retreats, and outdoor-based interventions. Chris discusses how the outdoors offers a powerful setting for building awareness, confidence, and emotional regulation, especially for neurodivergent youth. He shares compelling stories, including how nature-based experiences helped one young man shift from isolation and addiction to greater self-understanding. This episode offers practical insights for parents who suspect their son may be on the autism spectrum and are looking for holistic, nature-informed ways to support him. The Autism Learning Lab website is: https://www.autismlearninglab.com/ Will White's men's coaching and retreats website is wmai.org.

In this powerful episode Will welcomes Nick Mann—Marine Corps veteran, former wilderness therapy program director, and founder of Dad’s Project—for an honest and inspiring conversation about the mental health challenges men and boys face today. Nick shares his journey from military service to working in wilderness therapy and now coaching fathers, highlighting how leadership, emotional presence, and outdoor experiences can help men reconnect with their purpose. Together, Will and Nick dive into why boys and men are increasingly disconnected from nature and community, and how rites of passage in outdoor settings can play a vital role in mental well-being. Nick opens up about leaving a high-demand leadership role in wilderness therapy to be more present for his daughter, reflecting on how modern fatherhood often means navigating the tension between providing financially and being emotionally available. He and Will explore why men often resist therapy but may be more open to coaching, and why building intentional male support networks is essential to combating isolation and depression. With warmth, wisdom, and vulnerability, this episode sets the tone for a season focused on men’s mental health and the healing power of the outdoors. Nick’s podcast link on Apple Podcast is: https://podcasts.apple.com/gr/podcast/the-dads-project-podcast/id1794615330 Stories from the Field is supported by WMAI.org We are now on Youtube so check us out there:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkYx-8fTbZg&list=PL-RD5KVsxmkwqzjuhyghJGve6Uv7ikkGl  

In this episode Will speaks with Dr. Neal Christensen, psychologist, researcher, and co-owner of Elements Programs in Utah. With over two decades in the field, Dr. Christensen shares his journey from discovering outdoor experiential work in high school to becoming a leader in wilderness therapy for neurodivergent youth. As co-creator of the Eclipse program at Elements, he discusses how the model intentionally shifts away from traditional primitive skills to better support teens on the autism spectrum, those with ADHD, and other social-cognitive challenges through tailored interventions that emphasize emotional regulation, social skills, and executive functioning. Dr. Christensen also explores the evolution of wilderness therapy research, highlighting the significant outcome data from Elements and the broader Outdoor Behavioral Healthcare Council. He shares insights into how targeted, evidence-based adaptations—like allowing wristwatches, using specialized social skills curricula, and designing digital media interventions—improve outcomes for neurodivergent clients. This conversation is essential listening for parents seeking effective alternatives to traditional therapy and for professionals interested in how research continues to shape best practices in the field. To access the research mentioned in this episode: https://elementsprograms.com/resources/research/ Stories from the Field is supported by White Mountain Adventure Institute: https://www.wmai.org/

In this episode Will speaks with Haley Bezon, founder and executive director of Hearty Roots—a nonprofit nature-based wellness organization serving youth in Maine. Drawing on her own lived experience with mental health and a diverse work background in education and wilderness therapy, Haley shares how Hearty Roots was born from a desire to reimagine mental health care for children. Frustrated by the long waitlists and barriers many families face in Maine, she built a program that brings therapy outdoors—where kids heal through connection, movement, and the steady presence of caring mentors. Listeners will hear how Hearty Roots blends evidence-based social-emotional learning with the simplicity of time in nature—whether it’s hiking, paddling, or gathering around a fire. Haley describes their Taproot program, which replaces traditional office therapy with outdoor, trauma-informed sessions led by licensed clinicians, and she emphasizes the importance of proactive mental health care before crises arise. For parents in Maine and beyond who are overwhelmed by limited options or seeking more human-centered support for their children, this episode offers both inspiration and a real-world solution grounded in nature, community, and heart. Hearty Roots Website:  https://www.heartyroots.org/

In this episode Will sits down with Nate Bennick, the National Field Director for Adventure Recovery, to dive into the transformative power of combining mental health treatment with outdoor adventures. Nate shares his personal journey from battling addiction to finding solace and strength in the wilderness, leading him to his role in Adventure Recovery. Nate's story exemplifies the impact of nature-based immersions and adventure in fostering recovery and self-discovery, resonating with anyone looking for a path to healing outside the conventional therapy rooms. Nate shares his story from working in the confines of traditional residential treatment programs to the expansive possibilities offered by wilderness therapy. The episode delves into how Adventure Recovery leverages adventure and the natural world as vehicles for change, providing individuals in recovery with opportunities to challenge themselves, enhance resilience, and cultivate a sense of community. It further highlights the operational aspects of Adventure Recovery, including the preparation and certification of guides, the array of activities available, and the tailored support provided to clients on their recovery journeys. This episode not only illuminates the innovative approach of Adventure Recovery but also stands as a tribute to the therapeutic potential of the outdoors. Nate's dedication to aiding others in finding their recovery path through adventure is both moving and motivational, making this episode essential listening for anyone interested in the confluence of mental health treatment and outdoor exploration. We want to thank Adventure Recovery for underwriting Season 18 which focuses on addiction and recovery.  Listeners are invited to explore the rich archives of over 200 episodes of this podcast on Stories from the Field.com.

This week, we talk with Jake Weld, an experienced educator and Vice President of Mansfield Hall, as he delves into the multifaceted nature of anxiety among college students diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD). With nearly 35% of college students and 40-50% of those with Autism confronting anxiety, this episode aims to unravel why these rates are significantly high within the ASD community. Jake sheds light on various contributing factors, from sensory sensitivities like light and sound to challenges in handling task-based frustrations and navigating social nuances. Utilizing an illustrative metaphor, Jake depicts the unique neurological landscape of autism as a powerful Ferrari engine constrained by a Yugo's transmission and an old Jeep's suspension. He explains how neurodiverse students' reliance on repetition and familiarity can be challenged by sudden or unexpected changes, leading to fascinating insights into their coping mechanisms. However, the conversation is not solely about challenges. Jake ardently discusses the therapeutic potential of outdoor adventures and travel for neurodiverse students. He emphasizes that while certain environments may not suit everyone, with appropriate support and guidance, these experiences can become transformative milestones. The episode underscores the significance of inclusion, aiming to ensure that neurodiverse students can access enriching experiences on par with their neuromajority counterparts. Expanding horizons and fostering resilience, adventure, and travel can play a pivotal role in enabling these students to develop a harmonious interdependence with the world around them. Don't miss out on this enlightening exploration of autism, anxiety, and the enriching potential of embracing the great outdoors. Season 17 of Stories from the Field is focused on Anxiety and is underwritten by Mountain Valley Treatment Center. 

In this week's episode, we have the privilege of hearing from Dr. Hilary McCloy, an esteemed Physical Therapist, a former member of the US Ski Team, and a remarkable athlete. Hilary shares her journey into high-risk sports, including being one of the best skiers in the world at the tender age of 15. She shares the inspiring story of achieving her dream of being named a member of the US Ski Team while, in the same week, facing a rare degenerative disease diagnosis. Her resilience and determination in the face of adversity are genuinely remarkable. During the episode, Hilary not only delves into her journey of overcoming obstacles but also sheds light on the impact of high-risk adventure on mental health. As someone who has experienced the demanding world of competitive skiing, Hilary shares her insights into the psychological toll that comes with pushing oneself to the limits. Her perspective offers valuable insights into the mental health challenges faced by athletes and adventurers alike. As a Physical Therapist, Hilary brings a unique perspective to her own recovery and rehabilitation, highlighting the importance of holistic care for both the body and mind. Her experiences as an athlete and healthcare professional lend depth to her understanding of the human body and the intricacies of the healing process. Dr. Hilary McCloy's episode is a testament to the power of resilience and determination. Her story inspires anyone facing challenges in their own lives, reminding us that with the right mindset and unwavering spirit, we can overcome even the most daunting obstacles. Furthermore, her insights into the impact of high-risk adventure on mental health provide valuable perspectives and raise awareness about the importance of holistic well-being. Tune in to this episode for an uplifting and enlightening conversation with a truly extraordinary individual. Dr. Hilary McLoy's bio from her website:  https://www.hilarymccloy.com/ Hilary received her doctoral degree from Samuel Merritt University in Oakland, CA and a BA from the University of Vermont. Hilary was a member of the US Alpine ski team for five years. She now resides in the White Mountains of NH - finding joy in the outdoors through running, hiking, back country skiing and biking. Strides Run Certification - Xtraining school Run-Injury & Performance Rehab Certification - Xtraining school Dry Needling Certified Protect Our Winters - Snow Alliance Member