ICE, Asylum, and Why the Border Crisis Isn’t What You Think

Rick Rubin dives deep into the essence of creativity, exploring its spiritual roots and the role of sensitivity in artistic expression. From his reflections on nature as the perfect balance to his thoughts on art as a universal language, Rick discusses how every piece of art — whether it’s music, painting, or writing — connects us to something greater. He also touches on how the power of creativity transcends barriers, overcoming propaganda and biases, and opens the door to greater understanding and connection.   The episode also dives into Rick’s anti-surgery health journey, his relationship with red light, circadian rhythm, and diet, and how even a burst appendix led to a spiritual insight at a Barnes & Noble. They discuss AI, propaganda, post-pandemic polarization, and how the greatest danger to truth is our inability to sit with complexity. Part deep dive, part meditative retreat, this is not just a podcast—it’s a portal into how Rick Rubin sees, feels, and listens to the world. Themes Explored: The Source, creativity, and the unseen field Why true art starts by not knowing Healing through nature, intuition, and red light The cost of propaganda and loss of nuance in modern society Why AI may never truly replace human creativity Rick’s perspective on RFK Jr., media slander, and open dialogue Childhood trauma and artistic sensitivity How to live in wonder without needing answers Don't miss a video! Subscribe NOW: ⁠http://bit.ly/Subscribe-to-VICE-News⁠ Check out VICE News for more: ⁠http://vicenews.com⁠ Get 10% off your first order with code SHANE at ⁠⁠https://www.zippixtoothpicks.com⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this wide-ranging conversation, Shane Smith presses Dr. Jordan B. Peterson on everything from academia’s groupthink and campus protests to benzo withdrawal, love in the face of terminal illness, and the geopolitical shadow of China. Peterson fires back—sometimes reflective, sometimes raw—laying out why he believes voluntary self-sacrifice, not power or pleasure, is the only antidote to cultural decay. Along the way you’ll hear: Inside the Coma: Peterson relives the three-year ordeal that nearly killed him—and the family support that didn’t let him quit. Campus Cage Match: Why he rarely sets foot in universities anymore, and the moment Oxford’s Union tried (and failed) to sandbag him. Carbon, China & Cataclysms: A blunt debate on climate policy, cheap energy, and whether the West can out-compete Beijing without losing its soul. RFK Jr., Trump, and the New “Not-So-Conservative” Right: Peterson’s take on the strange coalition reshaping U.S. politics. Meaning vs. Hedonism: From punk-rock rage to religious myth, how sacrifice—rather than desire—can stitch our fractured lives back together. Don't miss a video! Subscribe NOW: http://bit.ly/Subscribe-to-VICE-News Check out VICE News for more: http://vicenews.com Get 10% off your first order with code SHANE at ⁠https://www.zippixtoothpicks.com⁠ Download the DraftKings app and get 350 casino spins with code SHANE or go to or head to ⁠⁠https://casino.draftkings.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

John Sandweg, former acting director of ICE under President Obama, explains why both Republican and Democratic leaders have struggled to manage the border, why immigration reform keeps hitting roadblocks, and what real, workable solutions could actually look like. This conversation goes beyond politics — it reveals the human stories and the complex systems behind immigration. Download the DraftKings app and get 350 casino spins with code SHANE  or head to https://casino.draftkings.com/ Subscribe to VICE News here: ⁠⁠http://bit.ly/Subscribe-to-VICE-News⁠⁠ Check out VICE News for more: ⁠⁠http://vicenews.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

John Perkins was once an economic hitman — a chief economist helping powerful corporations and governments entrap resource-rich countries in massive debt. Loans disguised as development aid ended up enriching the elite, while ordinary people paid the price.He shares the moment that made him question everything, the “death economy” fueled by short-term greed, and how China is now leading this global game with a new twist. This isn’t just history — it’s the story of how economic power shapes today’s world and what it means for our planet’s future. Get $10 Off @BRUNT with code SHANE at https://www.bruntworkwear.com/SHANE #BRUNTpod #ad For free shipping and 365-day returns go to https://www.quince.com/questions  Subscribe to VICE News here: ⁠http://bit.ly/Subscribe-to-VICE-News⁠ Check out VICE News for more: ⁠http://vicenews.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Shane Smith sits down with three of the brightest minds pushing humanity’s final frontier, space. Astrophysicist Jonathan McDowell, author and space reporter and documentarian Ashlee Vance, and in-orbit manufacturing pioneer Delian Asparouhov pull back the curtain on the new era of private spaceflight, from cutting-edge rocket tech to factories floating above Earth. It’s a riveting look at how commercial actors, visionary entrepreneurs, and global superpowers are reshaping everything we know—and don’t yet know—about life beyond our planet. Get $10 Off at BRUNT with code SHANE at https://www.Bruntworkwear.com/SHANE #Bruntpod #ad Download the PrizePicks app today and get $50 after your play your first $5 lineup with code SHANE at https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/SHANE Subscribe to VICE News here: http://bit.ly/Subscribe-to-VICE-News Check out VICE News for more: http://vicenews.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Shane sits down with Faiz Shakir, Bernie Sanders' former campaign manager and executive director of More Perfect Union—to ask the question on everyone’s mind: How can Democrats truly rebuild? From reclaiming a genuine grassroots base to tackling the big-money stranglehold on politics, they dig into what it’ll take to inspire working-class Americans again. Faiz and Shane provide sharp insights on media’s role in the mess, why authenticity matters more than ever, and a refreshingly real take on forging a movement that’s about more than just fundraising. Secure your online data and get up to four months for free at https://www.expressvpn.com/shane Subscribe to VICE News here: http://bit.ly/Subscribe-to-VICE-News Check out VICE News for more: http://vicenews.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Shane dives deep into today’s economic turbulence with two of the most respected voices in the field: former U.S. Treasury Secretary Larry Summers and global affairs strategist Ian Bremmer. Together, they unpack how tariffs, shifting global alliances, and stock market jitters are reshaping our economic landscape. Summers offers an inside view of why tariffs have become such a flashpoint—shedding light on who really pays the price when countries impose or retaliate with higher trade barriers. Bremmer broadens the lens to explain how America’s trade disputes and political brinkmanship ripple across Europe, Asia, and beyond, hinting at bigger power shifts on the horizon. From concerns about inflation and job security to questions over national debt and diplomatic trust, this conversation peels back the layers of political theater to reveal what’s really at stake. Download the PrizePicks app today and get $50 after your play your first $5 lineup with code SHANE at https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/SHANE Subscribe to VICE News here: http://bit.ly/Subscribe-to-VICE-News Check out VICE News for more: http://vicenews.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Shane Smith and tech entrepreneur and biohacker Bryan Johnson—the mastermind behind the burgeoning “Don’t Die” movement and hit Netflix documentary— dissect one of humanity’s oldest obsessions: longevity and the possibility of extending life indefinitely. As Johnson lays out his plan to build a radical new ideology, part religion and part nation-state, he pushes beyond standard ideas about health and longevity. Think hyperbaric oxygen therapy, societal re-engineering, and yes, even measuring the one metric nobody ever talks about—because, according to Johnson, every data point counts when you’re determined to rewrite life’s expiration date. And it’s not just longevity. They also explore reinventing political systems and orchestrating trillion-dollar investments to the ancient mythological warnings against eternal life. Equal parts fearless and futuristic, this episode examines one man’s quest to reshape not only personal health and wellness, but also the framework of society—all in the name of one deceptively simple command: Don’t Die. Subscribe to VICE News here: http://bit.ly/Subscribe-to-VICE-News Check out VICE News for more: http://vicenews.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Shane Smith sits down with key figures from Congress and the scientific community to dissect the new, two-year House investigation into COVID-19. Congressman Brad Wenstrup, who led the inquiry, lays out how missteps, censorship, and confusing mandates eroded public trust in institutions like the CDC and FDA. Dr. Robert Malone—an early pioneer of mRNA research—argues that known risks were concealed, while vaccine advocate Dr. Paul Offit acknowledges communication flaws yet defends the vaccines’ core value. From evidence of political pressure on social media platforms to the role of pharmaceutical companies and the thorny debate over the lab-leak theory, this candid discussion unpacks the data and controversies that shaped—and sometimes misshaped—America’s pandemic response. What went wrong, who’s responsible, and how do we shore up our defenses for the next outbreak? In this revealing episode, Shane demands real answers about lost credibility, the lessons learned, and whether our nation is prepared for a future crisis when the stakes could be even higher. Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get $5 off your Starter Pack (that’s over 40% off) with promo code SHANE at ⁠https://www.shopmando.com⁠! #mandopod #ad Subscribe to VICE News here: http://bit.ly/Subscribe-to-VICE-News Check out VICE News for more: http://vicenews.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Shane and Internet pioneer Marc Andreessen unpack how a Chinese open-source AI breakthrough could mark a “Sputnik moment” for the West, why governments are bent on crushing emerging technologies, and what recent events mean for the future of startups, freedom of speech, and global innovation. From exposing how AI can be deliberately taught to lie, to dissecting the ongoing U.S.–China rivalry and the far-reaching impacts of open-source software, Andreessen offers a rare behind-the-scenes look at political maneuvering, corporate self-interest, and the moral questions that will define the next wave of technological progress. Marc shares his candid takes on crypto, central bank digital currencies, and the possibility of a new Cold War over AI. This is the most crucial conversation shaping our world right now and you have a front row seat. Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get $5 off your Starter Pack (that’s over 40% off) with promo code SHANE at https://www.shopmando.com! #mandopod #ad Download the PrizePicks app today and get $50 after your play your first $5 lineup with code SHANE at https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/SHANE X: https://x.com/a16z Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/a16z/?hl=en LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/a16z/ Subscribe to VICE News here: http://bit.ly/Subscribe-to-VICE-News Check out VICE News for more: http://vicenews.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices