David Lee Roth vs Gene Simmons

Brian and Murdock explore the King of Pop's long-running fascination with the theatrical - and the movie roles he ALMOST got to take.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTES:https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/michael-jackson-wanted-to-play-jar-jar-binks-in-star-wars-56736/https://collider.com/star-wars-michael-jackson-jar-jar-binkshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_EOhttps://www.mjvibe.com/huge-movie-roles-almost-played-by-michael-jacksonhttps://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/03/michael.jackson.diana.ross/index.htmlhttp://oprah.com/own-oprahshow/who-discovered-michael-jackson-diana-ross-or-gladys-knighthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Jackson_(talent_manager)#Public_image_and_controversyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_relationships_of_Michael_Jacksonhttps://time.com/4135018/the-wiz-michael-jackson/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson%27s_Thriller_(music_video)https://www.mjjcommunity.com/threads/michael-jacksons-unrealised-film-career.200546/https://www.mjjcommunity.com/threads/john-landis.143211/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krzG7OKjzUA&t=15shttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlock_(film)How Rick Baker met John Landis - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHp9LUSgEv0&t=3shttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_American_Werewolf_in_Londonhttps://mouseplanet.com/the-untold-story-of-captain-eo/2773/#google_vignettehttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1092496918912993&id=100044580847515&set=a.643639267132096https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-03-07-ca-7919-story.htmlhttps://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2018/06/25/michael-jackson-and-david-geffen-the-operator/https://collider.com/hook-steven-spielberg-michael-jackson/​​https://variety.com/2015/film/news/michael-jackson-star-wars-jar-jar-binks-1201547616/E.T audio storybook: https://youtu.be/VB9v_BBi6Cg?si=dxfxoIPlfS3cmG4SSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock go looking for the history on why one of the most successful rock bands ever simultaneously seems to be hated.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTES:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagles_(band)Klosterman essay on The Eagles: https://ew.com/article/2013/06/20/book-excerpt-chuck-klosterman/https://groovyhistory.com/eagleshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyn_Johns_discographyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagles_(album)The Cameron Crowe 1975 Rolling Stone piece: http://www.theuncool.com/journalism/rs196-the-eagles/Excerpt from the Felder book: https://web.archive.org/web/20080718172259/http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article2638985.ecehttps://www.billboard.com/music/rock/eagles-hatred-explainer-defense-glenn-frey-6851078/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurel_CanyonLosAngeleshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desperado_(Eagles_album)https://www.theringer.com/music/2021/5/5/22420083/the-eagles-glen-frey-don-henley-50-yearshttp://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/bk-aow/eagles.phpBig Lebowski scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JlmvtAHhnchttps://rocknyc.live/don-henley-ejects-a-fan-from-a-show-for-shouting-don-felders-name.htmlhttps://www.loudersound.com/features/life-in-the-fast-lane-the-turbulent-tale-of-the-eagleshttps://decider.com/2016/12/02/history-of-the-eagles-documentary-netflix/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The guys get into the early history of the Van Halen brothers - and the already-rockstar who almost stalled things out before they started.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTES:Van Halen Rising by Greg Renoff - https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/van-halen-rising-greg-renoff/1121176783Eruption: Conversations with Eddie Van Halen by Brad Tolinski - https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/eruption-brad-tolinski/1138833566https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2020-10-07/gene-simmons-eddie-van-halenThe Zero Demos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXZnB2xJ26sSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The fellas field a question about the guys who once took on the nasty name "Kingdom Clone" in the music press, and discuss why sounding like Led Zep is just not allowed by a certain type of rock n roll fan.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTES:https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/greta-van-fleet-anthem-of-the-peaceful-army/https://www.allmusic.com/artist/kingdom-come-mn0000096804/biographyDanny Stag’s brother’s WaPo piece: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/style/1988/06/05/my-brother-the-rock-star/158337df-3bbf-48b3-9007-8500835cf052/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_Come_(band)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Reidhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led_Zeppelinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TudbbVdz8oshttps://www.themaineedge.com/buzz/music/danny-stag-of-kingdom-come-talks-30th-anniversary-tour2011 Southeast of Heaven interview with Lenny Wolf: https://www.southeastofheaven.com/?p=55312011 Full in Bloom Lenny interview: https://fullinbloom.com/lenny-wolf-kingdom-come-interview/2015 James Kottak interview: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/james-kottak-says-breakup-of-original-kingdom-come-lineup-was-caused-by-one-persons-big-mouth/Japanese Pure Rock interview from 1988: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpOtVhznrVQLA Times 1988 piece: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-07-17-ca-9661-story.htmlhttps://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/the-10-wildest-led-zeppelin-legends-fact-checked-153103/jimmy-page-once-owned-aleister-crowleys-former-home-154298/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The guys go looking for songs that bands wrote about being mad at their managers and record labels and come back covered in Southern rock, British bombast, and a little punk attitude.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTES:https://www.npr.org/2019/11/15/779753813/songs-against-the-suitshttps://americansongwriter.com/the-meaning-behind-why-cant-i-by-liz-phair-and-why-she-may-have-been-ahead-of-her-time/https://meetinmontauk.com/2019/01/27/song-of-the-day-3859-one-down-live-ben-folds/https://www.loudersound.com/features/how-i-divered-lynyrd-skynyrd-by-al-kooperhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Kooperhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynyrd_Skynyrdhttps://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/lynyrd-skynyrds-new-if-i-leave-here-tomorrow-doc-10-things-we-learned-630575/Al Kooper interview: https://youtu.be/rP0wcXXe1zE?si=GAua0nrjeoW2q8-Dhttps://wcsx.com/2023/08/12/lynyrd-skynyrd-simple-man-ronnie-fought-to-get-it-on-the-album/https://www.reddit.com/r/musictheory/comments/e6f8a3/sweet_home_alabama_is_in_d/https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1CERyhdJyq/https://oneweekoneband.tumblr.com/post/51568795029/workin-for-mca-when-the-rock-roll-dreamshttps://thinkinginyoursleep.com/sweet-home-alabama-from-dream-to-mega-hit/https://ultimateclassicrock.com/lynyrd-skynyrd-gimme-back-my-bullets/https://ultimateclassicrock.com/lynyrd-skynyrd-nuthin-fancy/https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/queen-song-to-get-back-at-management/https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Sheffieldhttps://medium.com/@daviddesola/what-bohemian-rhapsody-gets-right-and-wrong-d04b5af410d1https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trident_Studioshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_(band)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_ControlSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock follow the story of Fleetwood Mac from album 5 through 9, tracing the path of infights, sexual liaisons, and imposters that led to Mick Fleetwood finally meeting Lindsey Buckingham.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTES:The Mark Blake book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Dreams/Mark-Blake/9781639367320https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Welch_(musician)https://themeggiesue.substack.com/p/tms-muse-of-the-week-judy-wonghttps://classicrockforpoc.tumblr.com/post/137364959800/groupie-jewel-eyed-judy-wong-43https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Gameshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Kirwanhttps://www.spectacularoptical.ca/2018/06/rip-danny-kirwan-fleetwood-macs-drunk-muppet/https://www.npr.org/2018/06/11/618869222/fleetwood-macs-forgotten-hero-guitarist-danny-kirwan-has-diedhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Weston_(guitarist)https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/mar/30/jenny-boyd-mick-fleetwood-jennifer-juniper-its-not-what-you-think-behind-the-star-studded-life-of-a-rock-stars-wifehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifford_Davis_(music_manager)Original Rolling Stone reporting on fake Mac: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/fleetwood-mac-flak-manager-takes-name-not-members-on-tour-233735/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stretch_(band)Weston on being a scape goat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w-p3uxFSkohttps://pleasekillme.com/fakewood-mac/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_Are_Hard_to_FindSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock go way back to start breaking down the details of who and what made up Fleetwood Mac for the seven years before Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham showed up.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTESThe Mark Blake book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Dreams/Mark-Blake/9781639367320https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleetwood_Machttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mayall_%26_the_Bluesbreakershttps://alanpaul.substack.com/p/its-a-hard-road-john-mayall-jasonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Spencerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleetwood_Mac_(1968_album)https://www.wpr.org/culture/fleetwood-mac-mark-blake-dreamshttps://www.musicradar.com/news/early-fleetwood-mac-5-peter-green-jeremy-spencer-danny-kirwanhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Then_Play_Onhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiln_Househttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Welch_(musician)See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock chronicle Bruce's struggle to breakthrough to the mainstream at the end of the 1970s- and the hits he gave away along the way. Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTEShttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Springsteenhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramoneshttps://faroutmagazine.co.uk/when-joey-ramone-asked-bruce-springsteen-for-a-song/https://www.app.com/story/news/history/2016/03/25/night-bruce-springsteen-met-ramones/82228748/“Hungry Heart” in the style of The Ramones:https://youtu.be/5tCMa7_liNA?si=IileU-_es5u2u3iNE-Street Shuffle piece with Joey Ramone interview videos, etc.: https://estreetshuffle.com/index.php/2022/12/21/roll-of-the-dice-hungry-heart/https://americansongwriter.com/5-songs-you-didnt-know-bruce-springsteen-wrote-that-were-made-famous-by-other-artists/How Manfred Man got access to Bruce’s songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv0kQ-VopnIhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Appelhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greetings_from_Asbury_Park,_N.J.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blinded_by_the_Lighthttps://medium.com/@rchamoff/blinded-by-the-light-is-complete-nonsense-201d31919c38https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Gordon_(singer)https://tedtockscovers.wordpress.com/2021/04/11/fire-the-boss-was-knocking-on-the-kings-door-musicislife-tedtockscovers-brucespringsteen-robertgordon-thepointersisters-shakinstevens-robinwilliams-linkwray/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_(Bruce_Springsteen_song)https://www.mprnews.org/story/2014/03/28/musichttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Because_the_Nighthttps://the-circuit.greasylake.org/index.php?/topic/155283-patti-smith-talking-about-because-the-night-and-bruce/Brian’s 2023 appearance talking about Sire Records on Only Three Lads: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1DqU34hgE3qb7SSCYzlZdS?si=65k6Va-uR72dzfMG9CpdpwSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock dig into the history of MTV's unlikely smash hit that resurrected careers and created a new revenue line for loud bands willing to turn down the volume.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTES:I WANT MY MTV - The Book: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/308409/i-want-my-mtv-by-rob-tannenbaum/https://www.impericon.com/blogs/magazine/when-metal-bands-pull-the-plug-unplugged-and-acoustic-projectshttps://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ve-seen-million-faces-ve-120710082.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stray_Gatorshttps://www.thisisdig.com/feature/harvest-moon-neil-young-album/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliot_Robertshttps://www.facebook.com/groups/266465700545777/posts/1727363401122659/https://americansongwriter.com/on-this-day-in-1988-mtv-refused-to-play-neil-youngs-this-notes-for-you-for-a-pretty-silly-reason/Internet Archive – Neil Young MTV Unplugged 2/7/93https://archive.org/details/neil-young-mtv-unpluggedFaceOff Rock Show Neil Young’s Second Attempt on MTV Unplugged. https://en.faceoffrockshow.com/post/neil-young-second-attempt-on-mtv-unplugged-1How Neil Got It Right The Second Timehttps://ultimateclassicrock.com/neil-young-unplugged/12 Unforgettable Unplugged Performanceshttps://ultimateclassicrock.com/top-mtv-unplugged-episodes/Did Neil Young run out of his Unplugged tapinghttp://forum.cakewalk.com/m/tm.aspx?m=3163911&p=1Fandom Wiki Neilhttps://music.fandom.com/wiki/Unplugged:Neil_YoungUnplugged: Full Albumhttps://youtu.be/BSOItCgL-CE?si=k-ry5jw51_VnOOHcSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock dig at the roots of "Mrs. Robinson" only to end up on a journey through 70s cinema, childhood friendships, and especially petty songwriting.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTEShttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Nicholshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Graduatehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Webb_(author)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Turmanhttps://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/07/arts/lawrence-turman-dead.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_E._Levinehttps://medium.com/@jacobdowning/nichols-and-simon-and-garfunkel-cde5b6f03db5https://valentinamariesemler.substack.com/p/revisiting-the-graduatehttps://www.openculture.com/2021/02/paul-simon-deconstructs-mrs-robinson-1970.htmlhttps://www.thecurrent.org/feature/2015/06/01/today-in-music-historyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundtrackhttps://faroutmagazine.co.uk/first-pop-song-used-in-a-movieDick Cavett interview: https://youtu.be/sDqIsuIpVy4?si=Fb9MZGCEaq29IKPBhttps://www.openculture.com/2021/02/paul-simon-deconstructs-mrs-robinson-1970.htmlhttps://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/feb/12/art-garfunkel-paul-simonSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.