Joking aside

Former Scottish Conservatives leader Jackson Carlaw is the guest on this week’s edition of the podcast, fresh from being named Wag of the Year at the Holyrood Political Awards. He reflects on a career in politics and what really happened when he stepped down as leader last year. Elsewhere, the team discuss Nicola Sturgeon’s comments about having “time on her side” when it comes to a second independence referendum, and why the First Minister and Tory leader Douglas Ross are so keen to show off their working class credentials.