Porsche 1-2 at Sebring, Factory Team Beef, and the 911 Joyride That Ended in Handcuffs

A shop burned down. There's beef inside Porsche's factory team. And a transporter got arrested for joyriding someone's brand new 911. This week on P-car Talk, Mike and Aaron open with some real news from the South Florida car community — Arnage Motorsports, owned by their close friends Cory and George, lost their entire shop in a fire. GoFundMe link is in the description. These are good people and the community needs to show up for them. Then they break down Porsche's Sebring sweep — first, second in GTP, Manthey wins its class. Great weekend on paper. But there's post-race drama between the number 6 and number 7 cars that makes the press conference worth watching. Team orders, a lead change that wasn't authorized, and two teammates who are very publicly not on the same page. And then the one you'll be talking about: a Florida transporter decided a new customer's 911 was his personal weekend car. He got caught. He got arrested. But it opens up the entire conversation about how broken the car shipping industry really is — and whether driving the car home yourself is always the right call. GoFundMe for Arnage Motorsports: https://gofund.me/d87d9f93a Follow us: @pcartalk | pcartalk.com | Patreon.com/pcartalk Kimchi Crew: Steve, Leslie, Chris, Ken, Aaron, Sean, and Nik

Which Porsche Do You Actually Buy? — Part Two Right where we left off. You've got the spec sheet in front of you, the price ranges are real, and the question the crew has been circling the whole episode finally lands on the table: if you had to write the check today — daily driver, PDK only, traffic more often than mountain roads — which one do you actually buy? Thank You to the Kimchi Crew and Our Listeners Before we get into it, a quick thank you to everyone who's been riding with us. The messages, the DMs, the comments — you guys keep this thing going and we genuinely appreciate it. This community is something else, and we don't take that for granted. Now. Back to the cars. So What Would You Actually Daily? The ground rules are simple: PDK only, because this thing is going to sit in traffic far more often than it sees a sweeper at elevation. Fun matters, mountain roads matter, but they're the exception. The question is what works best when the exception isn't happening. The crew goes around the table — 718 Boxster GTS 4.0 at 394 horsepower and 309 torque, ranging $75k to $90k. 718 Cayman GTS 4.0, same numbers, slightly more money at $80k to $95k. The turbocharged 718 variants — S at 350 horsepower and 309 torque, GTS at 365 and 317 — with Boxster money starting in the $40k range and Cayman topping out around $75k. Then the 991 world: the 991.1 Carrera with the 3.4L naturally aspirated flat six, 350 horsepower, 287 torque, $50k to $70k. The 991.1 Carrera S stepping up to the 3.8L, 400 horsepower, 325 torque, $60k to $85k. And then the 991.2 — 3.0L twin-turbo making 370 in the base and 420 in the S, with pricing from $75k all the way to $110k depending on how deep you want to go. Which One Wins and Why The goal isn't a one-day car. It's a ten-year car — longer if possible. Daily, fun, occasionally on a real road, and something you don't want to get rid of. That framing changes the calculus immediately. This isn't poverty spec shopping, but it also isn't money-is-no-object territory. You want to save where saving makes sense without ending up in the wrong car. For the crew, the 991.1 Carrera S keeps rising to the top. The 3.8L naturally aspirated flat six is the engine you'll still be talking about in year eight. Four hundred horsepower, 325 torque, the sound is unreplicated, and the maintenance story on a well-sourced example is manageable in a way the 991.2's turbo system eventually isn't. The 718 GTS 4.0 is an emotional argument that holds up — but it's a smaller, louder, lower car that earns its keep on roads, not commutes. The 991 wraps the same soul in something you can actually live in. And the 991.2, for all its numbers, takes you out of naturally aspirated territory in a way that matters over ten years of ownership. Get on the Road — Fahren 2026 If all this has you thinking about what it actually feels like to drive one of these cars on a real road with real corners, Fahren 2026 is the answer. October 13 through 16, Georgia, Tennessee, and North Carolina — 27 spots, and the kind of driving you'll be talking about for years. Head to pcartalk.com for details and get your name in before it fills up. Outro That's the show. Thanks for listening. If you want more, join the Pcar Club at Patreon.com/pcartalk. Follow us on Instagram @pcartalk. Until next time, drive it, race it and never save it. Kimchi Crew: Steve, Leslie, Chris, Ken, Aaron, Matthew, Sean, and Nik

div]:bg-bg-000/50 [&_pre>div]:border-0.5 [&_pre>div]:border-border-400 [&_.ignore-pre-bg>div]:bg-transparent [&_.standard-markdown_:is(p,blockquote,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6)]:pl-2 [&_.standard-markdown_:is(p,blockquote,ul,ol,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6)]:pr-8 [&_.progressive-markdown_:is(p,blockquote,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6)]:pl-2 [&_.progressive-markdown_:is(p,blockquote,ul,ol,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6)]:pr-8"> _*]:min-w-0 gap-3 standard-markdown"> Which Porsche Do You Actually Buy? — Part One The question sounds simple until you actually start answering it: if you're shopping PDK because this car is going to sit in traffic more days than it sees a mountain road, which Porsche makes the most sense? The lineup starts with the 718 Boxster GTS 4.0 and Cayman GTS 4.0 — both making 394 horsepower and 309 torque, with the Boxster ranging $75k to $90k and the Cayman $80k to $95k. Step down to the turbocharged variants and you're at 350 horsepower in the S and 365 in the GTS, torque actually matching the 4.0 at 309 and 317 respectively, with Boxster money starting in the $40k range and Cayman topping out around $75k. The 4.0 is the easy emotional answer. The turbo variants are the practical one. The hosts work through both. The 991 Enters the Conversation Just as the 718 debate starts to settle, the 991 world opens up and complicates everything. The 991.1 Carrera with the 3.4L naturally aspirated flat six makes 350 horsepower and 287 torque and can be found in the $50k to $70k range — the 991.1 Carrera S bumps that to 400 horsepower with a 3.8L and asks $60k to $85k. Then the 991.2 comes in with the 3.0L twin-turbo making 370 horsepower in the base car and 420 in the S, and suddenly you're looking at a very different ownership proposition from a very different price bracket. We're just getting into it — Part Two picks up right here. Outro That's the show. Thanks for listening. If you want more, join the Pcar Club at Patreon.com/pcartalk. Follow us on Instagram @pcartalk. Until next time, drive it, race it and never save it. Kimchi Crew: Steve, Leslie, Chris, Ken, Aaron, Matthew, Sean, and Nik            

EV Cayman and Boxster Project on the Chopping Block Big news out of Stuttgart: Porsche has pulled the EV Cayman and Boxster from their configurator, and reports are surfacing that Porsche leadership held internal meetings to kill the project entirely. So is this a win or a loss? Our take: probably more win than loss. This was shaping up to be a failure to launch. The enthusiasm for an electric mid-engine Porsche was never really there from the core enthusiast base, and the market has been sending clear signals. Sometimes the best move is knowing when to walk away before you're too far in. The money lost hurts, but a forced launch that lands flat would've hurt the brand more. Magnus Walker Collection Heading to RM Sotheby's — No Reserve Magnus Walker is sending a significant portion of his collection to auction at RM Sotheby's, and the cars are listed with price estimates and—here's the key detail—no reserve. If you've spent any time in the auction world, you know how rare and how meaningful that is. It signals real commitment to sell. The cars we're watching most closely: the Minerva Blue 930 estimated at $175-200k, and the 996 GT2 at $125-150k—nearly 100k miles on it, but it's a GT2, and those don't come around often. Honorable mention to the 996 GT3 at $100-125k. Estimates feel fair across the board, but no reserve means the floor is the floor and the ceiling is whatever the room decides. Expect most of these to go higher, not lower. Fahren — Last Call, Spots Nearly Gone This is your final warning. Fahren spots are almost gone. If you're even remotely considering it, stop thinking and put your deposit in now to lock your spot. You can figure out the rest later. Don't be the person who waited too long and missed it. Head to pcartalk.com. Singer Drops a Wide Body Convertible Singer has built a wide body convertible, and this is a bigger deal than people may realize. Factory wide body drop tops were made in period—just not many of them. Singer's version brings all their engineering refinement along for the ride, including a 4.0L naturally aspirated motor making 420 horsepower. For the person who wanted a wide body convertible and has the means to make it happen, Singer just gave them the answer. The heritage is real, and the execution is Singer. Hard to argue with that. MotorTrend's Top 5 911s One Journalist Has Ever Driven MotorTrend published a list of the top 5 911s one of their journalists has ever driven: the first-gen 930 3.0 pre-intercooler Turbo, the 993, a 996 generation car, the 991.2, and the 992 GT3 RS. Opinion-based, sure, but it's a great conversation starter. The 930 pre-intercooler making the list says a lot—there's something about that raw, unfiltered experience that sticks with people. What do you think of this grouping? Is there a generation missing that deserves a spot? Let us know. Outro That's the show. Thanks for listening. If you want more, join the Pcar Club at Patreon.com/pcartalk. Follow us on Instagram @pcartalk. Until next time, keep it on the road. Kimchi Crew Steve, Leslie, Chris, Ken, Aaron, Matthew, Sean, and Nik

Magnus Walker Selling Off Cars, Art & Memorabilia Big news out of the collector world: Magnus Walker is consigning a significant portion of his collection to RM Sotheby's for a March 2026 auction. We're talking 160 items total—cars, art, memorabilia. No official word yet on which cars are going, but given the timing, this is likely tied to the Amelia auction. The question is: why? Is Magnus losing interest? Chasing something new? Just cashing in while values are high? We've seen this pattern before—Vinny recently sold his GT3 RS. So what's going on? Our take: we don't think the sky is falling. Prices on collectible Porsches are strong right now, and smart owners are capitalizing. We're not seeing any signals that demand is softening—if anything, more people are moving money into special cars. The hobby is growing, not shrinking. These guys aren't getting out because they know something we don't. They're getting out because the market is paying. Fahren 2025: October 13–16 at Tapoco Lodge Let's talk Fahren. October 13th through the 16th at Tapoco Lodge in the Smoky Mountains. If you haven't been, this is the one. The roads, the people, the format—it's everything we love about driving Porsches without any of the nonsense. Who goes? Enthusiasts who actually drive their cars. People who care more about the road than the parking lot. The kind of folks who become friends, not just acquaintances. Who should go? If you've been on the fence, this is your sign. If you want a premium driving experience with a tight-knit group, no egos, and some of the best roads in the country, Fahren is it. Why should you go? Because you'll leave with stories, not just photos. Head to pcartalk.com and get on the waiting list for 2026 if this year is full. Porsche Closing 30% of Dealer Network in China Porsche is set to close roughly 30% of its dealer network in China. Not shocking given the revenue losses they've reported quarter after quarter in that market. The EV competition there is fierce, consumer preferences are shifting, and Porsche's positioning hasn't translated the same way it does in the West. Markets change. Porsche is adapting. This isn't a sign of weakness globally—it's a smart move to stop the bleeding in a region where the math isn't working. We'll see how this plays out, but expect more consolidation before things stabilize. Modern Classics Selling Big at Barrett-Jackson and Mecum Something interesting is happening at the mainstream auctions. Cars like Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradales and Porsche 993 Turbo S models—cars that historically would sit with reserves not met at Barrett-Jackson or Mecum—are now selling. And selling strong. What's changed? A few theories: Are buyers shifting? Are fewer Boomers showing up and more Gen X and Millennials stepping in with different tastes? These younger buyers grew up with these cars as posters on their walls, not as "used sports cars." Or have the Boomers themselves shifted what they're chasing? Maybe they've already bought the '60s muscle and the air-cooled 911s and now they're looking at the cars they drove in their 40s and 50s. Either way, the platforms are adapting. Barrett-Jackson and Mecum are no longer just about Corvettes and Camaros. The definition of "collectible" is expanding, and the auction houses are following the money. What do you think? Are we seeing a generational handoff in the hobby, or just an expansion of what collectors care about? Let us know. Outro That's the show. Thanks for listening. If you want more, join the Pcar Club at Patreon.com/pcartalk. Follow us on Instagram @pcartalk. Until next time, keep it on the road. Kimchi Crew Steve, Leslie, Chris, Ken, Aaron, Matthew, Sean, and Nik

Rolex 24 Victory Lap The Porsche Penske #7 car takes the Rolex 24 for the third consecutive year—a feat only a handful of teams have ever accomplished. The guys break down their favorite moments from the weekend, which drew the largest crowd in event history. Can they make it four in a row? Fahren 2025 Announced Mark your calendars: Fahren returns October 13–16 at Tapoco. The event is back to two days of driving, bringing together old friends and new for what's become a cornerstone of the Porsche enthusiast community. Is the GT3 RS Going Turbo? Rumors are swirling that the .2 GT3 RS could ditch naturally aspirated power for turbos. The hosts dig into what this means for the future of the GT3 lineup—could this be the beginning of the end for NA Porsches in the GT family? And if the RS goes forced induction, how does that impact values on existing NA GT3s and RS models? A deep dive into the speculation and what it could mean for collectors. New Logo, New Era P-car Talk unveils a fresh logo and talks about what's next for the podcast. Thank you for your support! Kimchi Crew: Steve, Leslie, Chris, Ken, Aaron, Matthew, Sean, and Nik

In this episode of P-car Talk, hosts Mike Geisert and Aaron Johnson kick off with what's happening in the Porsche world this month. DRT Miami is coming up—if you're looking to escape the cold and see some incredible cars, this is your move. The following weekend brings the Rolex 24 at Daytona, including the historic 30-minute race on Saturday before the main event. What a way to start the year. The hosts dig into the elephant in the showroom: Porsche 911 pricing has climbed $40,000 in just five years. What's the strategy here? Base 911s now start around $140k, but buyers at that price point don't want a base model—so does this actually hurt overall sales? The only clear winner seems to be the used market, where older 911s suddenly look like bargains. Mike and Aaron discuss whether Porsche fatigue is real and what this means for enthusiasts versus casual high-end car buyers. Finally, the conversation shifts to depreciation kings—specifically the 2021 Taycan 4S. These stickered between $103k and $135k new and can now be found in the low $40s. Is this a steal for a commuter car if the battery checks out? The hosts weigh in. Thank you for your support! Kimchi Crew: Leslie, Chris, Ken, Aaron, Matthew, Sean, and Nik

In this episode of P-car Talk, hosts Mike Geisert and Aaron Johnson break down the latest news from Stuttgart—Porsche is keeping combustion alive alongside the upcoming EV 718. What does this mean for the future of the GT4 and a potential RS variant? The hosts dig into the implications for enthusiasts who've been holding their breath. The conversation shifts to the market, where 996 and 997 Turbos are quietly climbing in value. Mike and Aaron share their picks for the best Porsche investments under $50,000—which models still make sense and which ones are already out of reach. The episode wraps with a breakdown of the P-car Club and what members get access to: exclusive giveaways, events, and more ways to stay connected with the community. Thank you for your support! Kimchi Crew: Leslie, Chris, Ken, Aaron, Matthew, Sean, and Nik

In this episode, Elliot Weil, founder of OODA Motorsports, joins us to talk about his Porsche journey and how real-world track failures led to engineering breakthroughs. Elliot shares his ownership experience with a 997.2 RS, including a catastrophic engine failure that didn't just stop him—it pushed him to innovate. Rather than accepting the limits of stock components, he developed new high-performance parts using better materials to enhance reliability for serious track work and high-performance applications. We dive deep into Elliot's approach to building the perfect Porsche, including the personal decision to change his dream car's color and the philosophy behind getting every detail right. The conversation covers the unique appeal of air-cooled ownership, navigating today's vintage Porsche market, and comparing the driving dynamics across different 911 generations. What draws enthusiasts to specific models? What makes one generation feel different from another? Elliot shares his future modification plans and what keeps the passion alive for these cars. Thank you for your support! Kimchi Crew: Leslie, Chris, Ken, Aaron, Matthew, Sean, and Nik  

In this episode, we're giving thanks to our people and diving into some major Porsche news that's shaking up the community. We kick things off with the all-new electric Cayenne—dropping November 20th with numbers that'll make your jaw drop. The top-tier Turbo model pumps out 1,193 hp with nearly the same torque figure, launching 0-60 in 2.3 seconds and crushing the quarter mile in 9 seconds. Starting at $160k, it features active aero in the front bumper, a rear roof spoiler that doubles as an air brake, active rear bumper fins, and Porsche's first curved center screen. Is this the EV that finally makes sense for Porsche purists, or just another heavy SUV with big numbers? Then we revisit a story long-time listeners might remember—the Porsche vs. The Collection lawsuit in Miami. Porsche wanted The Collection to build an exclusive dealership on their own dime, but Miami real estate being what it is, The Collection passed. Porsche allegedly responded by restricting allocations, putting them in what The Collection calls a "death spiral." Now they're suing Porsche for $300 million, and it's heading to trial in Miami. This got ugly fast—what does this say about how Porsche handles dealer relationships? We also tackle the 911 S/T pricing saga—these are trading between $635k and $805k with a median around $700k. Owners and journalists are calling it "the best modern 911 ever built." But haven't we heard that before? The GT3 RS 4.0, the 911 R—each generation seems to claim that crown. We break down the specs: the RS 4.0 with its legendary Mezger engine (500 hp, 9,000 rpm, 2,999 lbs), the 911 R (500 hp, 8,600 rpm, 3,000 lbs), and the S/T (525 hp, 9,000 rpm, 3,056 lbs). With only 600 RS 4.0s, 991 Rs, and 1,963 S/Ts produced, can they all hold that title? Let's discuss what truly makes a 911 "the best ever." Thank you for your support! Kimchi Crew: Leslie, Chris, Ken, Aaron, Matthew, Sean, and Nik