What was the thinking behind the Browns' trade down?

The Browns are holding their rookie minicamp this weekend at the team facility in Berea, offering the first opportunity to get a look at their 2025 rookie class up close. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe previewed rookie minicamp on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, looking ahead to what they’re really paying attention to this weekend when they hear from rookies and watch them practice. They talked about the quarterback battle and how this weekend impacts that as well as the other rookies and why Browns fans could really find themselves falling in love with members of this draft class once they take the field. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/orangebrowntalk⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Shedeur Sanders era really gets started for the Browns this weekend when they hold their rookie minicamp. Sanders and the rest of the team’s rookie class will be in town for their first taste of life in the NFL. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about the Sanders experience and what the Browns and Browns fans can expect with Sanders around and the celebrity he brings with him on Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They discuss all the noise around Sanders and how he and the Browns will deal with it.They wrap up by taking a detour into the most surprising losses they’ve seen in-person. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/orangebrowntalk⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns will hold their rookie minicamp this weekend in Berea and we’ll get our first look at two of their four quarterbacks when Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders take the field. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discussed the quarterback room and the coming quarterback competition on Monday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talked about the early quarterback pecking order and whether the Browns can go into the season with four quarterbacks on the roster. They also talk about the addition of wide receiver Diontae Johnson before they talk about the potential future of Nick Chubb and why the Browns aren’t the best fit for their long-time veteran who is currently a free agent. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/orangebrowntalk⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow⁠⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns made headlines on Saturday during the NFL Draft when they traded up and selected Colorado's Shedeur Sanders, a move made more surprising because the Browns picked Dillon Gabriel in the third round on Friday. What were they thinking? Tim Bielik, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe discussed the quarterback selections on Part 2 of their draft recap podcast. What did they see in Gabriel? Why double down and pick Sanders? Did being so aggressive at quarterback leave the draft feeling short?They dig into all of it on this draft recap podcast. Listen to the first part on our YouTube channel, Apple podcasts or Spotify. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/orangebrowntalk⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our NFL Draft review week continues on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast with Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland joining our Wednesday edition of the pod to look at what the Browns did over the weekend. Lance, Tim and Dan Labbe go through the Browns' non-quarterback picks and dissect what they bring to the Browns and what they indicate for the direction the team is headed in 2025. They discuss the trade-down decision that resulted in Mason Graham and more picks, the two running backs they added and how they fit together and the addition of Harold Fannin Jr. This is Part 1 of a 2-part podcast. The three discuss the quarterback decisions on tomorrow's podcast. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/orangebrowntalk⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns started off the 2025 NFL Draft with a bang, trading down from No. 2 overall, acquiring the fifth pick, which they used on Mason Graham, the two picks they used on Quinshon Judkins and Dylan Sampson and a 2026 first-round pick. Did they already win the trade? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe looked back on the trade with some hindsight on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They also talk about some of the other draft moves the Browns made and discuss if it made sense for this team to take two quarterbacks and two running backs, Nick Chubb's future and more. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/orangebrowntalk⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns took two quarterbacks in the NFL Draft over the weekend and both qualified as surprises, first picking Dillon Gabriel at No. 94 and then trading up to take Shedeur Sanders at No. 144. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked about the choice to pick two quarterbacks on an Orange and Brown Talk draft recap podcast, kicking off a week of draft recap pods. They discuss why the Browns picked two quarterbacks, who they seem to favor based on where they picked them and how a four-person quarterback competition is going to play out. #browns #nfl #brownsnews #clevelandbrownsnews #nfldraft Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/orangebrowntalk⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns made headlines on Saturday when they traded their last two picks on Day 3 of the NFL Draft to move up to No. 144 overall and pick Colorado quarterback Shedeur Sanders. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to the Browns' decision to trade up and acqure Sanders in a quick emergency podcast on Saturday. They start by taking you inside the moment the Browns made the trade up while three of their four draft picks were being introduced in a press conference and our reactions mid-press conference to the trade. Then they get into the addition of Sanders and what it means and how the Browns will balance the reality of Sanders being a fifth-round pick alongside all of the things that come with adding Sanders to the team. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠https://x.com/orangebrowntalk⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns wrapped up what was setting up to be a solid Day 2 of the NFL Draft by taking Oregon quarterback Dillon Gabriel at No. 94, a head-scratching move that left many wondering what they were thinking. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their recap podcast by discussing the decision to take Gabriel and why they think the Browns made the pick, how they could have better used the pick and why Gabriel was the quarterback the Browns had to have. They also recap the other picks they made that made Friday such a promising day before the Gabriel pick. Follow us: On X: ⁠https://x.com/orangebrowntalk⁠ YouTube: h⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠ Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow⁠ License: ⁠https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns traded out of the No. 2 overall pick on Thursday night and selected Michigan's Mason Graham at No. 5, acquiring extra picks, including the No. 36 pick this year and a first-round pick next year. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped the Browns' opening round and tried to frame their decision to pass on Travis Hunter and trade down from Graham. They talk about the decision and what they think GM Andrew Berry's vision is with this trade. Then they look ahead to Friday and discuss what they think the Browns should do when they go on the clock. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices