Episode 231: Maintaining Integrity as a Leader

People have a tendency to avoid facing their life stories. Often times we ignore them, we compartmentalize them, and we dwell on them. The difference between a wholehearted leader who is healthy and a leader who is not, is that wholehearted leaders have processed their story. They have done the work to get their baggage down to carry on size and have come to learn who they are BECAUSE of their story, not despite it. God uses everything. The good. The bad. The ugly. And, the funny.Molly Stillman is the host of the Can I Laugh on Your Shoulder? podcast and a sought-after speaker. The lifestyle blog she started in 2007, Still Being Molly, is a community for women who love ethical style, clean beauty, parenting, funny stories, and serving in their communities. Her deep passion lies in inspiring women to know they were created on purpose, with a purpose, and for a purpose. Molly lives with her husband John, children Lilly and Amos, and various and sundry animals on a small farm in Durham, North Carolina. She loves Jesus a whole lot, drinks too much Diet Coke, and eats a lot of Chipotle burritos.ONLINEStillBeingMolly.comFACEBOOK@stillbeingmollyINSTAGRAM@stillbeingmollyBOOKSIf I Don't Laugh, I'll CryPODCASTCan I Laugh on Your Shoulder?========================================================We LOVE that you’ve decided to join us this week for the Living Wholehearted Podcast. We hope you enjoyed the conversation, tips, and resources to help you transform every relationship that matters most to you. If you think this will help someone you know, make sure you send it their way or share on socials. Tag us @living_wholehearted and @terramattson! Don't forget to FOLLOW/SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss an episode and help spread the word by leaving us some stars on a review. Thanks for partnering with us to help more leaders, just like you, who want to live and lead with integrity at home, work and in the community. Go to livingwholehearted.com and sign up to receive our free leadership tips and updates delivered to you in our monthly newsletter. And, if you’re a girl mom, check out mycourageousgirls.com.   Until next time, be the leader you would follow! Grateful for you,Jeff & Terra To connect with Jeff & Terra Mattson and Living Wholehearted, go to: INSTAGRAM@TerraMattson@Living_Wholehearted@MyCourageousGirls FACEBOOK@WeAreLivingWholehearted@MyCourageousGirls WEBSITESLivingWholehearted.comTerraMattson.com MyCourageousGirls.com RESOURCESShrinking the Integrity Gap Shrinking the Integrity Gap e-Course Courageous: Being Daughters Rooted in GraceDear Mattsons Helping Moms Raise Confident DaughtersSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/living-wholehearted-podcast-with-jeff-and-terra/donations

What do you do when you find yourself lacking joy in life, or feeling a heaviness about things that you just can't quite put your finger on? What happens when you know that you want to want God in your life, but right now you don't feel like wanting Him in your life at all? Today we talk with Lisa Whittle as she shares her story of surrender to God in an outcry for Him, the only one who can revive her soul.Lisa Whittle is a bestselling author, speaker, podcast host, and ministry leader. She has authored nine books, including Jesus Over Everything, God Knows, and her most recent book, I Want God: How to Love Him with Your Whole Heart and Revive Your Soul.Book: I Want God: How to Love Him with Your Whole Heart and Revive Your SoulWebsite: https://www.lisawhittle.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisawhittleofficialTwitter: https://twitter.com/lisarwhittleInstagram: @lisawhittle========================================================We LOVE that you’ve decided to join us this week for the Living Wholehearted Podcast. We hope you enjoyed the conversation, tips, and resources to help you transform every relationship that matters most to you. If you think this will help someone you know, make sure you send it their way or share on socials. Tag us @living_wholehearted and @terramattson! Don't forget to FOLLOW/SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss an episode and help spread the word by leaving us some stars on a review. Thanks for partnering with us to help more leaders, just like you, who want to live and lead with integrity at home, work and in the community. Go to livingwholehearted.com and sign up to receive our free leadership tips and updates delivered to you in our monthly newsletter. And, if you’re a girl mom, check out mycourageousgirls.com.   Until next time, be the leader you would follow! Grateful for you,Jeff & Terra To connect with Jeff & Terra Mattson and Living Wholehearted, go to: INSTAGRAM@TerraMattson@Living_Wholehearted@MyCourageousGirls FACEBOOK@WeAreLivingWholehearted@MyCourageousGirls WEBSITESLivingWholehearted.comTerraMattson.com MyCourageousGirls.com RESOURCESShrinking the Integrity Gap Shrinking the Integrity Gap e-Course Courageous: Being Daughters Rooted in GraceDear Mattsons Helping Moms Raise Confident DaughtersSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/living-wholehearted-podcast-with-jeff-and-terra/donations

Healthy relationships allow space for health conversations, even conversations regarding the hot topics of our culture at the moment. Many of us have some question we are not asking those closest to us because we are embarrassed to asked, or afraid of how others will respond. Today we learn how to start hard coversations with humble hearts, because "on the opposite side of an awkward conversation is a really beautiful place."Mike Novotny is an author, pastor, and speaker who holds a Master of Divinity from Wisconsin Lutheran Seminary and a Doctor of Ministry from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. Mike is the lead speaker for Time of Grace, a global media ministry that is committed to ensuring that God’s grace—his love, glory, and power—is accessible around the world. An independent, donor-funded ministry, Time of Grace works to remind people of the satisfaction and fulfillment found in Jesus as it works to share its message through television, print, social media, podcasts, and other practical resources.Book: Taboo: Topics Christians Should Be Talking About But Don’tWebsite: https://timeofgrace.org/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/timeofgrace/Twitter: https://twitter.com/timeofgraceminInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/pastormikenovotny/========================================================We LOVE that you’ve decided to join us this week for the Living Wholehearted Podcast. We hope you enjoyed the conversation, tips, and resources to help you transform every relationship that matters most to you. If you think this will help someone you know, make sure you send it their way or share on socials. Tag us @living_wholehearted and @terramattson! Don't forget to FOLLOW/SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss an episode and help spread the word by leaving us some stars on a review. Thanks for partnering with us to help more leaders, just like you, who want to live and lead with integrity at home, work and in the community. Go to livingwholehearted.com and sign up to receive our free leadership tips and updates delivered to you in our monthly newsletter. And, if you’re a girl mom, check out mycourageousgirls.com.   Until next time, be the leader you would follow! Grateful for you,Jeff & Terra To connect with Jeff & Terra Mattson and Living Wholehearted, go to: INSTAGRAM@TerraMattson@Living_Wholehearted@MyCourageousGirls FACEBOOK@WeAreLivingWholehearted@MyCourageousGirls WEBSITESLivingWholehearted.comTerraMattson.com MyCourageousGirls.com RESOURCESShrinking the Integrity Gap Shrinking the Integrity Gap e-Course Courageous: Being Daughters Rooted in GraceDear Mattsons Helping Moms Raise Confident DaughtersSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/living-wholehearted-podcast-with-jeff-and-terra/donations

How we listen to one another matters, especially when we are listening to the ones we love the most. In our marriages, with our children, and in our leadership roles, sometimes we can take each other for granted, falling into patterns and expectations of listening that may not be the healthiest. Let's take a deeper look today at how it is that we can continue to grow in our ability to listen to one another effectivley. How can we actively engage in listening to someone while having both conviction and civility present during a conversation?We are Jeff and Terra Mattson, a husband and wife team, and co-hosts of the Living Wholehearted Podcast. We are the founders of Living Wholehearted, a professional counseling, executive coaching, and organizational development firm outside Portland, Oregon, helping leaders live and lead with integrity. Our amazing team of professionals who have excellent character and competencies, are coming alongside leaders in the home, work and community, providing confidential and safe places for leaders, their families, and their teams. We co-authored the book, Shrinking the Integrity Gap: Between What Leaders Preach and Live, and are raising our two teen girls on 5 acres in the Willamette Valley of Oregon. We also founded Courageous Girls, a non-profit dedicated to helping moms walk alongside their daughters at every stage of their growing years (learn more at mycourageousgirls.com). Bridging the gap between Biblical truth, clinical expertise, and trauma-informed relational wisdom, we are currently engaged in executive coaching, organizational development, writing, speaking, and training pastors, counselors and leaders. We believe that when a leader lives and leads with integrity, everyone in their wake benefits. That's why we do what we do.========================================================We LOVE that you’ve decided to join us this week for the Living Wholehearted Podcast. We hope you enjoyed the conversation, tips, and resources to help you transform every relationship that matters most to you. If you think this will help someone you know, make sure you send it their way or share on socials. Tag us @living_wholehearted and @terramattson! Don't forget to FOLLOW/SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss an episode and help spread the word by leaving us some stars on a review. Thanks for partnering with us to help more leaders, just like you, who want to live and lead with integrity at home, work and in the community. Go to livingwholehearted.com and sign up to receive our free leadership tips and updates delivered to you in our monthly newsletter. And, if you’re a girl mom, check out mycourageousgirls.com.   Until next time, be the leader you would follow! Grateful for you,Jeff & Terra To connect with Jeff & Terra Mattson and Living Wholehearted, go to: INSTAGRAM@TerraMattson@Living_Wholehearted@MyCourageousGirls FACEBOOK@WeAreLivingWholehearted@MyCourageousGirls WEBSITESLivingWholehearted.comTerraMattson.com MyCourageousGirls.com RESOURCESShrinking the Integrity Gap Shrinking the Integrity Gap e-Course Courageous: Being Daughters Rooted in GraceDear Mattsons Helping Moms Raise Confident DaughtersSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/living-wholehearted-podcast-with-jeff-and-terra/donations

Meaningful mealtimes: When was the last time you sat down as a family, for longer than a half hour, without technology? During the pandemic, families all over the country were eating together, playing together and making vows never to go back to the rat race of life that we were living before everything came to a halt. Yet here we are, nearly 5 years later, and we have seemingly fallen back into the pace of busyness that we did not intend to return to. Listen in to today's episode to learn the first intentional steps in turning the tide back and giving the people we say we love the most, the best of ourselves again.Ryan Rush, PhD, serves as pastor of Kingsland Baptist Church, a thriving church community of more than 5,000 people, located in Katy, Texas. He has spent more than 20 years working in ministry. He’s been an Adjunct Professor at Liberty University, teaching the course, “Theology of the Family” and teaches Doctoral students in the Marriage and Family program at Dallas Theological Seminary. He's the author of three books, the latest being, Restore the Table: Discovering the Powerful Connections of Meaningful Mealtimes.https://www.instagram.com/ryanrushlive/Restore the Table: Discovering the Powerful Connections of Meaningful Mealtimeshttps://www.amazon.com/Restore-Table-Discovering-Connections-Meaningful/dp/1637632304========================================================We LOVE that you’ve decided to join us this week for the Living Wholehearted Podcast. We hope you enjoyed the conversation, tips, and resources to help you transform every relationship that matters most to you. If you think this will help someone you know, make sure you send it their way or share on socials. Tag us @living_wholehearted and @terramattson! Don't forget to FOLLOW/SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss an episode and help spread the word by leaving us some stars on a review. Thanks for partnering with us to help more leaders, just like you, who want to live and lead with integrity at home, work and in the community. Go to livingwholehearted.com and sign up to receive our free leadership tips and updates delivered to you in our monthly newsletter. And, if you’re a girl mom, check out mycourageousgirls.com.   Until next time, be the leader you would follow! Grateful for you,Jeff & Terra To connect with Jeff & Terra Mattson and Living Wholehearted, go to: INSTAGRAM@TerraMattson@Living_Wholehearted@MyCourageousGirls FACEBOOK@WeAreLivingWholehearted@MyCourageousGirls WEBSITESLivingWholehearted.comTerraMattson.com MyCourageousGirls.com RESOURCESShrinking the Integrity Gap Shrinking the Integrity Gap e-Course Courageous: Being Daughters Rooted in GraceDear Mattsons Helping Moms Raise Confident DaughtersSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/living-wholehearted-podcast-with-jeff-and-terra/donations

Big emotions. They are there whether you want them or not. Emotions are a real part of who we are as humans and we encounter them in every relationship we are involved in. Today, we discuss our wiring as it relates to emotions and offer some tools on how to regulate and care for your emotions.We are Jeff and Terra Mattson, a husband and wife team, and co-hosts of the Living Wholehearted Podcast. We are the founders of Living Wholehearted, a professional counseling, executive coaching, and organizational development firm outside Portland, Oregon, helping leaders live and lead with integrity. Our amazing team of professionals with excellent character and competencies, are coming alongside leaders in the home, work and community, providing confidential and safe places for leaders, their families, and their teams. We co-authored the book, Shrinking the Integrity Gap: Between What Leaders Preach and Live, and are raising our two teen girls on 5 acres in the Willamette Valley of Oregon. We also founded Courageous Girls, a non-profit dedicated to helping moms walk alongside their daughters at every stage of their growing years (learn more at mycourageousgirls.com). Bridging the gap between Biblical truth, clinical expertise, and trauma-informed relational wisdom, we are currently engaged in executive coaching, organizational development, writing, speaking, and training pastors, counselors and leaders. We believe that when a leader lives and leads with integrity, everyone in their wake benefits. That's why we do what we do.========================================================We LOVE that you’ve decided to join us this week for the Living Wholehearted Podcast. We hope you enjoyed the conversation, tips, and resources to help you transform every relationship that matters most to you. If you think this will help someone you know, make sure you send it their way or share on socials. Tag us @living_wholehearted and @terramattson! Don't forget to FOLLOW/SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss an episode and help spread the word by leaving us some stars on a review. Thanks for partnering with us to help more leaders, just like you, who want to live and lead with integrity at home, work and in the community. Go to livingwholehearted.com and sign up to receive our free leadership tips and updates delivered to you in our monthly newsletter. And, if you’re a girl mom, check out mycourageousgirls.com.   Until next time, be the leader you would follow! Grateful for you,Jeff & Terra To connect with Jeff & Terra Mattson and Living Wholehearted, go to: INSTAGRAM@TerraMattson@Living_Wholehearted@MyCourageousGirls FACEBOOK@WeAreLivingWholehearted@MyCourageousGirls WEBSITESLivingWholehearted.comTerraMattson.com MyCourageousGirls.com RESOURCESShrinking the Integrity Gap Shrinking the Integrity Gap e-Course Courageous: Being Daughters Rooted in GraceDear Mattsons Helping Moms Raise Confident DaughtersSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/living-wholehearted-podcast-with-jeff-and-terra/donations

Apply to our Executive Wholehearted Leadership Cohort -https://www.livingwholehearted.com/leadership-cohortsEmotions. You either love them or wonder what's the point of having them? They often get in the way. The importance of cultivating healthy emotions to enhance one's spiritual and leadership journey is vital. Today we will be talking with guests who bring practical insights and guidance on how emotion impacts your personality, strategies for managing stress, the distinction between depression and sadness and the significance of empathy for emotional and spiritual development. Bill and Kristi Gaultiere are Drs of Psychology and the Founders of Soul Shepherding, a ministry to help pastors, leaders, churches and all those desiring to thrive with Jesus in emotional and relational health. Their new book Healthy Feelings, Thriving Faith, uses the Enneagram to help you grow in emotional health, loving relationships and intimacy with Jesus.========================================================We LOVE that you’ve decided to join us this week for the Living Wholehearted Podcast. We hope you enjoyed the conversation, tips, and resources to help you transform every relationship that matters most to you. If you think this will help someone you know, make sure you send it their way or share on socials. Tag us @living_wholehearted and @terramattson! Don't forget to FOLLOW/SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss an episode and help spread the word by leaving us some stars on a review. Thanks for partnering with us to help more leaders, just like you, who want to live and lead with integrity at home, work and in the community. Go to livingwholehearted.com and sign up to receive our free leadership tips and updates delivered to you in our monthly newsletter. And, if you’re a girl mom, check out mycourageousgirls.com.   Until next time, be the leader you would follow! Grateful for you,Jeff & Terra To connect with Jeff & Terra Mattson and Living Wholehearted, go to: INSTAGRAM@TerraMattson@Living_Wholehearted@MyCourageousGirls FACEBOOK@WeAreLivingWholehearted@MyCourageousGirls WEBSITESLivingWholehearted.comTerraMattson.com MyCourageousGirls.com RESOURCESShrinking the Integrity Gap Shrinking the Integrity Gap e-Course Courageous: Being Daughters Rooted in GraceDear Mattsons Helping Moms Raise Confident DaughtersSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/living-wholehearted-podcast-with-jeff-and-terra/donations

Apply to our Executive Wholehearted Leadership Cohort -https://www.livingwholehearted.com/leadership-cohortsWhen leaders can see themselves and how they are wired, from the most accurate lens possible, they are able to learn to live within their limits. Today we are throwing it back to the beginning and discussing the Core Values Index (CVI) tool that we have been using for 13+ years. This tool has been an integral piece of the work we do here at Living Wholehearted whether it is utilized with individuals, organizations, marriages or families, it has proven time and time again to give people a roadmap to healthier relationships with themselves, in the workplace, and in their personal lives.We are Jeff and Terra Mattson, a husband and wife team, and co-hosts of the Living Wholehearted Podcast. We are the founders of Living Wholehearted, a professional counseling, executive coaching, and organizational development firm outside Portland, Oregon, helping leaders live and lead with integrity. Our amazing team of professionals who have excellent character and competencies, are coming alongside leaders in the home, work and community, providing confidential and safe places for leaders, their families, and their teams. We co-authored the book, Shrinking the Integrity Gap: Between What Leaders Preach and Live, and are raising our two teen girls on 5 acres in the Willamette Valley of Oregon. We also founded Courageous Girls, a non-profit dedicated to helping moms walk alongside their daughters at every stage of their growing years (learn more at mycourageousgirls.com). Bridging the gap between Biblical truth, clinical expertise, and trauma-informed relational wisdom, we are currently engaged in executive coaching, organizational development, writing, speaking, and training pastors, counselors and leaders. We believe that when a leader lives and leads with integrity, everyone in their wake benefits. That's why we do what we do.========================================================We LOVE that you’ve decided to join us this week for the Living Wholehearted Podcast. We hope you enjoyed the conversation, tips, and resources to help you transform every relationship that matters most to you. If you think this will help someone you know, make sure you send it their way or share on socials. Tag us @living_wholehearted and @terramattson! Don't forget to FOLLOW/SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss an episode and help spread the word by leaving us some stars on a review. Thanks for partnering with us to help more leaders, just like you, who want to live and lead with integrity at home, work and in the community. Go to livingwholehearted.com and sign up to receive our free leadership tips and updates delivered to you in our monthly newsletter. And, if you’re a girl mom, check out mycourageousgirls.com.   Until next time, be the leader you would follow! Grateful for you,Jeff & Terra To connect with Jeff & Terra Mattson and Living Wholehearted, go to: INSTAGRAM@TerraMattson@Living_Wholehearted@MyCourageousGirls FACEBOOK@WeAreLivingWholehearted@MyCourageousGirls WEBSITESLivingWholehearted.comTerraMattson.com MyCourageousGirls.com RESOURCESShrinking the Integrity Gap Shrinking the Integrity Gap e-Course Courageous: Being Daughters Rooted in GraceDear Mattsons Helping Moms Raise Confident DaughtersSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/living-wholehearted-podcast-with-jeff-and-terra/donations

When someone asks you how you are doing, do you typically respond with "fine", "busy" or "tired"? These responses seem to be the norm these days as the treadmill of life never ends, especially for leader types. Today we want to talk about the importance of practicing rhythms of rest with a special guest who understands what it’s like to be tired of being tired.Jess Connolly is the author or coauthor of several books, including Wild and Free and Breaking Free from Body Shame and her most recent book, “Tired of Being Tired: Receiving God’s Realistic Rest for Your Soul-Deep Exhaustion.”Along with her husband, Nick, she planted Bright City Church in Charleston, South Carolina, where they live with their four children.Online: www.JessConnolly.comInstagram: @JessAConnollyBook: Tired of Being Tired: Receive God’s Realistic Rest for YourSoul-Deep ExhaustionIf you are looking for coaching around finding rhythms of rest and beginning Sabbath keeping. Consider reaching out to our spiritual formation and sabbatical coach, Rhonda Began at [email protected] If you want to know more about Living Wholehearted and the resources we offer, from our books and e-Courses, to our professional counseling and leadership development services, go to livingwholehearted.com and sign up for our monthly newsletters. Each month you will be connected with resources and on-going support for your journey toward living more wholehearted. The application process for our next wholehearted leadership cohort will begin this summer. If you get our newsletter, you will be the first to know! That’s www.livingwholehearted.com or follow us on instagram @living_wholehearted.========================================================We LOVE that you’ve decided to join us this week for the Living Wholehearted Podcast. We hope you enjoyed the conversation, tips, and resources to help you transform every relationship that matters most to you. If you think this will help someone you know, make sure you send it their way or share on socials. Tag us @living_wholehearted and @terramattson! Don't forget to FOLLOW/SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss an episode and help spread the word by leaving us some stars on a review. Thanks for partnering with us to help more leaders, just like you, who want to live and lead with integrity at home, work and in the community. Go to livingwholehearted.com and sign up to receive our free leadership tips and updates delivered to you in our monthly newsletter. And, if you’re a girl mom, check out mycourageousgirls.com.   Until next time, be the leader you would follow! Grateful for you,Jeff & Terra To connect with Jeff & Terra Mattson and Living Wholehearted, go to: INSTAGRAM@TerraMattson@Living_Wholehearted@MyCourageousGirls FACEBOOK@WeAreLivingWholehearted@MyCourageousGirls WEBSITESLivingWholehearted.comTerraMattson.com MyCourageousGirls.com RESOURCESShrinking the Integrity Gap Shrinking the Integrity Gap e-Course Courageous: Being Daughters Rooted in GraceDear Mattsons Helping Moms Raise Confident DaughtersSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/living-wholehearted-podcast-with-jeff-and-terra/donations

Everyone is a leader is some capacity, and often, "The greatest challenge in leadership is leading yourself". Leading with integrity is about bringing all of who we are — our mind, heart, soul, body, and relationships, before those who we lead. At Living Wholehearted we say that when leaders lead and live with integrity everyone in their wake benefits, but when leaders don't, everyone in their wake pays, it's just a matter of time. Today we get the opportunity to chat with Joe Brouillette as he shares about his experience as a leader, and how he has seen both sides of the leadership coin played out over the years in addition to introducing us to a concept he calls "servant leadership".Joe is an executive coach and leadership consultant here at Living Wholehearted. He has several decades of Leadership, Board Service and Global Business Experience. He engages and shares his experience, knowledge, and wisdom with business and non-business leaders in ways that enable vision, effectiveness, and impact. Whether you're navigating the complexities of corporate governance or seeking to lead with purpose and innovation, Joe provides tailored guidance and practical strategies to help you achieve your goals. Join him on a transformative journey of leadership growth and organizational success by contacting him at [email protected]Find out more about the Executive Coaching, and Organizational Development opportunities offered here at Living Wholehearted by visiting https://www.livingwholehearted.com/executive-coachinghttps://www.livingwholehearted.com/organizational-developmentFind Joe specifically at: https://www.livingwholehearted.com/about/our-team/joe-brouilletteMen's Cohort applicants: email [email protected]========================================================We LOVE that you’ve decided to join us this week for the Living Wholehearted Podcast. We hope you enjoyed the conversation, tips, and resources to help you transform every relationship that matters most to you. If you think this will help someone you know, make sure you send it their way or share on socials. Tag us @living_wholehearted and @terramattson! Don't forget to FOLLOW/SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss an episode and help spread the word by leaving us some stars on a review. Thanks for partnering with us to help more leaders, just like you, who want to live and lead with integrity at home, work and in the community. Go to livingwholehearted.com and sign up to receive our free leadership tips and updates delivered to you in our monthly newsletter. And, if you’re a girl mom, check out mycourageousgirls.com.   Until next time, be the leader you would follow! Grateful for you,Jeff & Terra To connect with Jeff & Terra Mattson and Living Wholehearted, go to: INSTAGRAM@TerraMattson@Living_Wholehearted@MyCourageousGirls FACEBOOK@WeAreLivingWholehearted@MyCourageousGirls WEBSITESLivingWholehearted.comTerraMattson.com MyCourageousGirls.com RESOURCESShrinking the Integrity Gap Shrinking the Integrity Gap e-Course Courageous: Being Daughters Rooted in GraceDear Mattsons Helping Moms Raise Confident DaughtersSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/living-wholehearted-podcast-with-jeff-and-terra/donations