131. Dysautonomia, Therapies for Sleep, & Concussions in the Elderly: An Interview with Don Watenpaugh, PhD, D, ABSM (Part 3)

Good Mood Method is a nervous system therapy program designed for individuals recovering from physical and emotional trauma. The approach combines music, movement, and meaning to help clients rebuild biological safety in their nervous system and feel like themselves again after traumatic experiences.Founded by Gilad Miller, a Polyvagal and Logotherapy Practitioner, Foundation Training Specialist, and Trauma-Informed Somatic Coach who recovered from a moderate to severe traumatic brain injury (TBI), Good Mood Method leverages clinically-proven somatic practices to create sustainable healing. By emphasizing recovery at home between appointments, the program helps the nervous system anchor itself in safety and presence—the foundation for a meaningful recovery.Summary of the EpisodeIn this episode, host Bethany Lewis (The Concussion Coach) speaks with Gilad Miller about his journey of recovery from a moderate-to-severe traumatic brain injury (TBI) sustained in a skateboarding accident. Gilad shares his experience of being discharged from the hospital and later being told he was “medically fine,” despite battling debilitating symptoms like insomnia, sensory overload, and depression.The conversation explores the critical gap between physical recovery and holistic healing, emphasizing the need to treat the whole person—mind, body, and spirit. Gilad introduces his integrative approach, the Good Mood Method, which is built on three pillars:Music: Using the Safe and Sound Protocol (a Polyvagal Theory-based listening therapy) to retune the nervous system and reduce sensory sensitivity.Movement: Utilizing a trauma-informed version of Foundation Training to restore the body’s structural integrity and teach the nervous system that it is safe.Meaning: Employing Logotherapy (inspired by Viktor Frankl) to help individuals define what “getting better” truly means to them and anchor their recovery in a sense of purpose.Gilad and Bethany discuss the importance of social connection for co-regulation, how to build a compassionate relationship with one’s own body, and the necessity of moving at a pace that feels safe to the nervous system.Resources MentionedSafe and Sound Protocol (SSP): A five-hour listening therapy based on Polyvagal Theory designed to reduce sound sensitivities and improve social engagement.Foundation Training: A bodyweight movement practice focused on restoring the posterior chain (spine, hips, and head carriage) to build structural stability.Logotherapy: A therapeutic approach developed by Viktor Frankl focused on finding meaning in all forms of existence, even suffering.Viktor Frankl’s Book: Man’s Search for MeaningGuest Contact InformationWebsite: http://goodmoodmethod.caSocial Media: @goodmoodmethod (Instagram)Free Class: https://www.goodmoodmethod.ca/no-cost-classConnect with Bethany:Website: www.theconcussioncoach.comFree Guide: "5 Best Ways to Support Your Loved One Dealing with a Concussion" on the website

Don Watenpaugh, PhD, D, ABSM, is a scientist, sleep consultant, and data artist. He earned his PhD in Physiology at UC Davis and is board-certified in sleep medicine by the American Board of Sleep Medicine (ABSM). He directed a large urban sleep clinic for 13 years and currently serves as an adjunct faculty member in the Department of Physiology and Anatomy at the University of North Texas Health Science Center and in the Department of Biomedical Engineering at the University of Texas at Arlington.In this episode, Bethany Lewis welcomes back her uncle, Dr. Don Watenpaugh, for a third deep dive into the science of concussion recovery. The conversation focuses heavily on the physiological underpinnings of common post-concussion symptoms. Dr. Watenpaugh explains the role of the vestibular system (specifically the "rocks in your head" called otoliths) in causing dizziness and vertigo, and how this relates to Dysautonomia (autonomic nervous system imbalance). He also explores cutting-edge therapies for sleep disruption, including neurofeedback and transcranial stimulation. The episode concludes with a critical discussion on the under-recognized risks of concussion in the elderly population and a valuable "internet hack" for finding reliable, peer-reviewed research.Key Topics & Resources Mentioned1. Vestibular System & BPPVConcept: The otoliths (calcium carbonate crystals) in the inner ear help the body sense gravity and movement. A concussion can dislodge these "rocks," leading to Benign Paroxysmal Positional Vertigo (BPPV) , dizziness, and disorientation.Impact: Increases fall risk (leading to re-injury), causes sensitivity to movement (e.g., elevators, bending down), and can disrupt sleep by altering spatial awareness.Treatment: Specialized vestibular physical therapists use specific maneuvers (like the Epley maneuver) to reposition the crystals and "re-educate" the system.2. Dysautonomia (Autonomic Nervous System Imbalance)Concept: The concussion can cause an "adrenergic storm," leading to a dominance of the sympathetic nervous system (fight or flight). This makes it difficult for the body to switch to the parasympathetic state (rest and digest), which is necessary for healing.Symptoms: Random heart rate spikes while resting, profuse sweating, feeling faint upon standing (POTS-like symptoms), and digestive or hormonal issues.Treatment: Sub-threshold exercise (exercising up to the point of symptom onset and then stopping) and High-Intensity Interval Training (HIIT) can help retrain the nervous system's resilience. Listen to The Concussion Coach Podcast episode 37 for more information on how to implement effective HIIT training: 37. Post Concussion Syndrome, Dysautonomia, & Intervals: An Interview with Dr. Mark Allen, PhD3. Sleep & Advanced TherapiesConcept of Brain Fog: Delta waves (slow waves associated with deep sleep) appearing during wakefulness, which is counterproductive to cognitive function.Therapies Discussed:Neurofeedback: Training the brain to reduce inappropriate delta waves during the day to improve wakefulness and potentially improve sleep drive at night.Transcranial Direct Current Stimulation (tDCS): A non-invasive therapy that uses small electrical currents applied to the scalp during sleep to encourage Delta (slow wave) sleep.Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS): Using magnetic fields to stimulate nerve cells in the brain to treat post-concussion depression and headaches, which indirectly improves sleep.Near-Infrared Light (Red Light Therapy): A therapy mentioned for overall brain recovery (also listen to a previous episode on the Neuronic device: Episode 120: https://youtu.be/Juoz5SApHUg).

Today’s guest is Ben Reubenstein, a brain injury survivor, entrepreneur, and Colorado local. In 2023, what was initially diagnosed as a concussion after a snowboarding fall turned out to be a subdural hematoma requiring emergency brain surgery. Two years post-operation, Ben joins us to share his raw and honest journey—from the missed signs and the life-saving surgery to the long road of recovery, the frustration of lingering symptoms, and the mindset shifts that are helping him get back to the life and sports he loves.Episode Summary: Ben Rubenstein was doing everything right—wearing a helmet while snowboarding, and seeing a doctor, and seeking therapy after a fall and hit to his head. But when his concussion symptoms didn't improve, the truth was far more serious: a slow brain bleed that required two brain surgeries. In this powerful episode, Ben walks us through his entire experience, including the critical mistake of not getting an initial scan, the helicopter ride to the hospital, and the "denial phase" that followed his release. He discusses the importance of building a care team, the turning point he found in a book about healing chronic pain, and how he reframed his relationship with fear to finally get back on the mountain. This is a story of resilience, the power of vulnerability, and the importance of advocating for your own health.Resources & Links Mentioned in This Episode:Book: The Way Out: A Revolutionary, Scientifically Proven Approach to Healing Chronic Pain by Alan GordonApp: Brain HQ (cognitive training program)Connect with Bethany:Website: www.theconcussioncoach.comFree Guide: "5 Best Ways to Support Your Loved One Dealing with a Concussion" on the websiteFree Consultation: Link in show notes or on the websiteConnect with Ben Reubenstein:Bluesky: @benr.eu

Melissa Urban is the co-founder and CEO of Whole30 and a renowned authority on helping people create lifelong healthy habits. She is an eight-time New York Times bestselling author whose books have sold millions of copies worldwide. Melissa has been featured by major outlets like the New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, People, Forbes, Good Morning America, and CNBC. Beyond her work in nutrition and wellness, she is a prominent keynote speaker on health, boundaries, community building, and entrepreneurship. Melissa lives in Salt Lake City, Utah, and is an active voice in the concussion community, sharing her personal experience to help others feel less alone.Episode SummaryIn this episode of the Concussion Coach Podcast, host Bethany Lewis sits down with Melissa Urban for an honest and in-depth conversation about her experience with a concussion and the years-long recovery journey that followed.Melissa shares the story of her injury in December 2018—a hit to the head during a seemingly-innocuous game of laser tag. She describes the confusing onset of symptoms, from irritability and vision problems to an unfamiliar anxiety that culminated in a terrifying panic attack. Melissa opens up about the isolating nature of her symptoms, the strain it put on her relationships, and the challenge of navigating work and motherhood while dealing with an invisible injury.With the help of a specialized physical therapy team that reached out to her, Melissa was able to get a proper diagnosis and targeted treatment. She discusses the various therapies she underwent, including work on primitive reflexes, vision training, and treatment for a POTS-like nervous system dysregulation. Melissa also shares the unexpected ways her injury affected her relationship with food and exercise, and how she navigated the emotional journey of redefining her self-worth when her identity as an "active person" was temporarily stripped away. She offers invaluable advice on self-advocacy, trusting your own experience, and finding hope during setbacks, emphasizing that while her journey was long, there is more help and hope available now than ever before.Resources and Contact Information MentionedThis list compiles all the resources, tools, and contacts Melissa Urban discussed during the interview.Melissa's Personal Links:Website: melissau.comInstagram: @melissauHer Concussion Story (Part 1): https://blog.melissau.com/p/my-concussion-story-part-1Melissa’s podcast episodes she mentioned:The Work of Byron KatieCold Showers with Ed SheeranTreatments, Therapies, and Tools:Specialized Physical Therapy: Melissa stressed the importance of finding a physical or occupational therapist specializing in TBI (Traumatic Brain Injury). Her team was affiliated with Park City Hospital in Utah and had experience working with the U.S. Ski and Snowboard Team.Primitive Reflex Integration: Therapy focused on re-integrating primitive reflexes that can re-emerge after a head injury.Vision Therapy: Exercises to improve eye coordination and brain-eye connection, including the use of a Brock string.Cold Exposure (Cold Showers): Melissa found cold showers to be a "magic pill" for her symptoms. She used them as a tool to train her nervous system to remain calm under stress.Irlen Screening: A vision screening that uses colored overlays to help with visual stress and perception. Melissa mentioned a translucent lilac shade was helpful for her reading.Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy (HBOT): Melissa tried this at a local wellness clinic and found it helpful for acute symptom relief, though she noted it was expensive and time-consuming.Loop Earplugs: She used these to dull overwhelming auditory input in places like airports and grocery stores.Environmental Modifications: Melissa emphasized using sunglasses and blue-light-blocking glasses, and avoiding fluorescent or big overhead lights whenever possible.

In this conversation, Bethany and Dr. Don Watenpaugh, PHD, D, ABSM, address some listener questions and dive deeper into the intricate relationship between concussions and sleep. They explore practical strategies for managing sleep when faced with non-traditional schedules, unpack the vicious cycle of insomnia, and discuss the pros and cons of sleep aids. Dr. Watenpaugh provides science-backed advice on everything from racing thoughts at bedtime to the historical concept of biphasic sleep, always tying it back to the critical goal of optimizing brain recovery after a concussion. This episode is packed with actionable insights for anyone struggling with sleep during their concussion recovery.Key Topics DiscussedShift Work & Circadian Rhythms: Advice for those working night shifts or odd hours, emphasizing the critical need for a consistent sleep-wake schedule—even on days off—to avoid "shift work sleep disorder" and support brain healing.Managing a Racing Mind at Bedtime: Differentiating between perseverating on a specific problem (solution: a handwritten "bedtime journal") and having truly random, racing thoughts (solution: encourage the thoughts and "dream yourself to sleep").The Power of Consistency: Re-establishing that a regular wake time, exposure to bright light, and movement/activity first thing in the "morning" (even if it's dark outside) is the most powerful tool for entraining your circadian rhythm.Biphasic ("Two") Sleep: Exploring the historical concept of sleeping in two segments and whether it has any relevance or benefit for modern humans and concussion recovery.Sleep Medications & Concussion: A nuanced discussion on the role of sleep aids, including:The value of "break the glass in case of emergency" use.The often-overlooked danger of fall risk for concussion patients with balance issues.How insomnia can lead to counterproductive behaviors (napping, caffeine overuse) that make the problem worse.Caffeine & Sleep Quality: Why avoiding caffeine after early afternoon is crucial, and clarifying that it degrades the quality of deep (delta) sleep, which is essential for brain recovery.The Role of an Advocate: Reinforcing how critical it is for a friend or family member to support a concussion patient, as the cognitive symptoms can be severe and make self-advocacy difficult.Resources MentionedLiving Concussion Guidelines: Dr. Watenpaugh highly recommends this resource for its evidence-based recommendations.Website: concussionsontario.orgPrevious Conversation: For foundational knowledge on sleep, listen to Part 1 of this discussion.Episode: 122 - A Deep Dive into Sleep with Dr. Don WatenpaughConnect with Dr. Don WatenpaughWebsite: ⁠https://www.studiovidenda.com/⁠Bethany Lewis & The Concussion Coach:Free Guide: "5 Best Ways to Support Your Loved One Dealing with a Concussion" - Download at https://theconcussioncoach.com/Concussion Coaching Program: For personalized mentorship in recovery. Sign up for a free consultation HERE

Today, I am absolutely thrilled to welcome the wonderful Emily Waechtler to the podcast! Emily is a small business owner, a devoted wife of almost 27 years, and a mother to two daughters in their early twenties. She and her family live on the beautiful central coast of California, where they cherish their time together at the beach. Emily is a true ray of sunshine, and I’m so excited for you to hear her story, her hard-earned wisdom, and her incredibly positive perspective on navigating the concussion recovery journey.Episode Summary: In this heartfelt episode, Emily shares her experience of sustaining a concussion from a surfing accident nearly a year and a half ago. She opens up about the initial confusion surrounding her injury, the frustration of not getting clear answers from the medical system, and the daunting reality of a recovery that lasted far longer than the "couple of weeks" she was initially told to expect.Emily talks about the wide range of symptoms she faced, from physical challenges like dizziness and jaw pain to the overwhelming emotional and mental fatigue. She discusses the importance of finding the right help, which for her so far has included a chiropractor trained in cranial work, a physical therapist, and coaching with Bethany, and how she learned that recovery often takes a village of providers.Most importantly, Emily shares how she found hope and practical strategies through the Concussion Coach Podcast and one-on-one coaching. She dives deep into the lessons she's learned about pacing, the critical balance between rest and activity (like exercise and socializing), and the power of self-compassion. Emily’s faith and her ability to find grace for herself through understanding her nervous system are central themes. This conversation is a beautiful, honest look at "in-process" healing and a powerful reminder that progress, no matter how small, is still progress.Resources Mentioned in This Episode:Cognitive FX: Emily mentioned an article from Cognitive FX that her friend sent her immediately after the injury. It was an early resource that listed things not to do after a concussion. www.cognitivefxusa.comThe "Gage" or "Zone" System: Emily and Bethany discuss the immense value of having a common language (like using colors: green, yellow, red) to communicate energy levels and symptom triggers with loved ones. This system helps family and friends understand when to support you in resting or leaving a situation before a setback occurs. The "gage system" discussed in this episode was originally introduced in a previous podcast episode. Link to the "Gage System" Episode: [CLICK HERE]High-Intensity Interval Training (HIIT): Emily highlights how incorporating sub-threshold, high-intensity interval training became a game-changer in her recovery, emphasizing that exercise is a crucial form of medicine for the brain.Connect with Emily Waechtler:Email: [email protected]/Business: bluecorduroy.com (Check out her adorable sun hats!)Instagram: @emily_bluecorduroy (She loves connecting with people via DM!)Bethany Lewis & The Concussion Coach:Free Guide: "5 Best Ways to Support Your Loved One Dealing with a Concussion" - Download at www.theconcussioncoach.comConcussion Coaching Program: For personalized mentorship in recovery. Sign up for a free consultation HERE 

Julia Manning is the Chief of Staff of Communications at the Concussion and CTE Foundation, where she directs all storytelling and media content. She is a four-time Emmy Award-winning television producer and the host of Invisible Impact, a podcast dedicated to sharing authentic, unfiltered stories of life after concussion.Julia's own concussion story began in 2017 with what seemed like a minor accident—she stood up too fast after tying her shoes and slammed the back of her head into a kitchen countertop. What she assumed would be a few days of rest turned into nearly a decade of post-concussion syndrome (PCS), forcing her to leave the high-stakes, high-stimulation world of TV news production that she had worked her entire career to build.After years of pushing through symptoms, navigating fragmented healthcare, and grieving the loss of her identity, Julia found her way to the Concussion and CTE Foundation. There, she transformed her pain into purpose—helping others feel seen, heard, and supported through their own recovery journeys.In this conversation, Julia brings warmth, honesty, and hard-won wisdom to the table. Summary of the EpisodeIn this deeply honest and hopeful episode, Bethany Lewis sits down with Julia Manning to unpack the messy, nonlinear reality of post-concussion syndrome. Julia shares how a concussion unraveled her Emmy-winning career in TV news and sent her into a years-long battle with debilitating symptoms—including extreme light sensitivity, cognitive fog, and migraines so severe she feared they would never end.But this isn't just a story about what was lost. It's a story about what was found.Julia walks us through the moments where her recovery shifted: when she stopped chasing her "old self," the therapy she initially resisted that ended up being a game-changer, and the mindset reframe that helped her see the power of gratitude.She also pulls back the curtain on her work at the Concussion and CTE Foundation, explaining the critical difference between concussion and CTE, and sharing details about their free helpline—a resource that connects sufferers with trusted providers, peer support, and educational materials.Whether you are five days or five years into your recovery, this episode offers a powerful reminder: You are not broken. You are not alone. And your story isn't over.Key TakeawaysWhy Julia's "mild" concussion turned into a decade of symptoms—and what she wishes she had done differentlyHow to know when pushing through is actually pushing you backwardThe grief of losing a career and identity—and how to build a new oneConcussion vs. CTE: A clear, simple explanationHow loved ones can support someone with PCS without adding pressureThe power of living "day by day" and finding gratitude in small winsResources Mentioned: Concussion and CTE FoundationA nonprofit organization dedicated to solving the concussion crisis, accelerating research, and supporting those affected by concussion and CTE.Main Website: concussionandcte.orgHelpline (Free Resource): concussionandcte.org/helplineFill out a form to be connected with a case coordinator who can provide trusted provider referrals, peer support, educational materials, and more.Invisible Impact Podcast (Hosted by Julia Manning):https://concussionandcte.org/pcs-resources/invisible-impact-podcast/A podcast featuring real, raw conversations with individuals navigating life after concussion.Instagram (Foundation): @concussionandcteInstagram (Personal): @juliamanning2The previous Concussion Coach Podcast episodes that were mentioned:Grief and Concussions: An Interview with Krista St-Germain & Becky BarnettCTE: UofU Lineman Greg Newman’s Story: Interview with Laura DyerConcussion Recovery Art: An Interview with Allison Moir-SmithSupport for Concussed Moms: An Interview with Allison Moir-Smith

Guest IntroductionRick Griffin is the founder and CEO of the Neuro Leadership Academy, an organization dedicated to demystifying neuroscience and making it actionable for everyday life, leadership, and healing. With a master's degree in education, Rick is known for translating complex brain science into engaging, usable concepts.Before launching Neuro Leadership Academy, he spent decades as the executive director of a trauma-informed therapeutic residential program for teens, witnessing firsthand how past struggles shape present behavior. This experience ignited his passion to understand the brain's role in trauma and resilience.Rick is a renowned speaker and developer of programs used by schools, businesses, and community organizations, including the Certified Trauma-Informed Specialist micro-credential. He now focuses on writing, teaching, and designing training that applies neuroscience to leadership, learning, relationship-building, and culture, helping people move from being trauma-informed to what he calls "neuro-informed."Summary / Key Takeaways:In this enlightening conversation, Rick Griffin explains the core concept of the brain as a prediction machine. Our experiences aren't direct recordings of reality, but constructions created by our brain based on sensory input and past experiences. Its primary job is to keep us safe by asking: "Is this a threat, or is this a resource?"Key Insights:Prediction Over Perception: We don't just react to the world; our brain constantly predicts what will happen next based on past patterns to conserve energy and ensure survival.The Threat Bias: The brain's default setting leans toward predicting potential threats (e.g., "Is that something that will eat me?"). This is the root of the stress/trauma response.From Trauma-Informed to Neuro-Informed: Understanding behavior shifts from "What happened to you?" to "How is your brain preparing you for what's happening right now?" This removes blame and focuses on the brain's protective, biological function.Healing Through Prediction: Recovery—from trauma or concussion—involves helping the brain make new, safer predictions. By intentionally introducing safe, positive sensory experiences (sights, smells, sounds, connection), we can create predictions that update the brain's model of the world.Agency & The "Sensory Buffet": With 11 million sensory inputs processed every second, we have immense power to influence our state. We can "stamp" resilience into simple cues (a mint, a coin, a song) and use them to ground ourselves or others.Application to Concussion Recovery: Symptoms like brain fog, fatigue, and anxiety are not signs of a "broken" brain, but of a brain in protection mode, reallocating energy to heal. Recognizing this allows for self-compassion and intentional practices (like rest and calibrated sensory input) to support the healing process.Resources Mentioned by Rick:Book: How Emotions Are Made: The Secret Life of the Brain by Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett. This book was Rick's gateway into understanding the predictive brain.Website: Neuro-LA.com (Home of the NeuroLeadership Academy)Newsletter/Substack: Neuro Notes – Weekly articles on neuro-informed practices. Subscribe at: https://rickgriffin894.substack.comLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/rick-griffin-nlaEmail: [email protected] (He welcomes engagement and questions)Services: Rick offers keynote speaking, virtual and in-person training, workshops, and consulting for organizations. He also has a series of eBooks available. Contact him via email or his website for more information.Bethany Lewis & The Concussion Coach:Free Guide: "5 Best Ways to Support Your Loved One Dealing with a Concussion" - Download at www.theconcussioncoach.comConcussion Coaching Program: For personalized mentorship in recovery. Sign up for a free consultation HERE 

Kellianne Arnella, MS, OTD, OTR/L, is a passionate occupational therapist with nearly 15 years of experience specializing in adult neurological rehabilitation. Recently earning her doctorate, she is committed to expanding access to care through innovative, tech-enabled, and community-based service delivery models. Kellianne has designed and led programs that integrate patient needs with current practice trends to improve outcomes for individuals recovering from stroke, brain injury, and concussion. In addition to her clinical work, she serves as an adjunct professor, mentors future therapists, and is a passionate advocate for OT's vital role in concussion care.Episode Summary & Description:In this insightful conversation, Bethany sits down with Dr. Kellianne Arnella, an OT who is revolutionizing how we think about concussion recovery. They dive deep into why the traditional advice of "rest in a dark room" is often insufficient and how a proactive, "full-scope" occupational therapy approach can lead to tangible, life-changing improvements—even years after the initial injury.Kellianne shares her journey to becoming a neuro-focused OT, discusses the surprising predictability of recovery with the right care, and reveals the common barriers (access, awareness, affordability) that prevent people from getting help. She passionately outlines her vision for building community-based concussion networks and provides practical, actionable tips for listeners—from using earplugs and weighted vests to manage sensory overload, to understanding the "spoon theory" for energy management.Whether you're a patient, a caregiver, or a clinician, this episode is packed with hope, validation, and a clear roadmap for navigating the often-misunderstood path of concussion recovery.Resources & Tips Mentioned by Kellianne:1. Practical "Hacks" for Sensory Overload & System Calming:Loop Earplugs: For reducing ambient noise before entering overwhelming environments to "save your spoons."Palming Technique: Cover eyes with palms, keep eyes open, and look into complete darkness to help "clear the visual pathway."Weighted Vests: Use during light activities (e.g., folding laundry, walking the dog) or as a passenger in a car to provide deep pressure and reorganize the sensory system.Visual Anchoring: To combat motion sickness, find a static point in the distance (like a street sign) and focus on it as you move.2. Key Concepts:The Spoon Theory: A metaphor for managing finite energy reserves (spoons) throughout the day with a chronic illness or during recovery.Micro vs. Macro Influence: The power of individual conversations and community-level advocacy to create large-scale change in concussion care.3. Her Vision & Advocacy:Community-Based Concussion Networks: Building local, interdisciplinary teams to improve access and create a seamless continuum of care outside major hospital systems.The "Full-Scope" OT Role: Emphasizing the OT's unique skill in addressing the functional impact of vision deficits, habituation patterns, and daily life challenges post-concussion.Show Notes & Contact Information:Connect with Dr. Kellianne Arnella:Website: www.evolvebrainandbody.comInstagram: @evolving_otEmail: [email protected] OR [email protected] Takeaways from This Episode:Recovery is possible even in the chronic phase of concussion—it's never too late to seek help.The right care often involves looking at the integrated systems of vision, balance, cognition, and daily function.Setbacks are common; they can feel like going backward but are often part of the progression forward.Education is 80% of the battle—for patients, caregivers, and other healthcare providers.Advocacy at every level (from a social media post to a community meeting) is crucial to changing the landscape of concussion care.

Today's guest is Meghan Schneider, OTD, MS OTR/L, a neurological occupational therapist, brain injury specialist, and concussion recovery expert. As both a clinician and a TBI survivor, Meghan brings a powerful dual perspective to her work. She is a certified brain injury specialist, a certified functional vision rehabilitation specialist, and co-owner of NeurOT Consulting. In 2024, she was honored with the Dan Keating Pioneer in Brain Injury Award for her groundbreaking work integrating interoception—our eighth sensory system of internal body awareness—into brain injury rehabilitation. She is the co-creator of the first and only course dedicated to interoception in concussion and brain injury recovery.Episode Summary: What if the missing piece in your concussion recovery isn't just about treating symptoms, but learning how to listen to your body again? In this deeply insightful conversation, Bethany welcomes Meghan Schneider to explore the critical, yet often overlooked, role of interoception—our sense of internal body awareness—in healing from a brain injury.Meghan shares her personal journey through concussion and post-concussion syndrome, explaining how a disconnect from her body’s signals led to emotional dysregulation and delayed recovery. She breaks down the science simply: why trauma like a concussion can “turn off” this internal sense, and how rebuilding it is the foundation for managing symptoms, implementing pacing strategies, and regaining emotional balance.Listeners will learn:What interoception is and why it’s considered the cornerstone of self-regulation.How a lack of body awareness can sabotage standard recovery protocols.The practical framework Meghan uses to help clients reconnect with their body’s signals, identify emotions, and discover personalized calming tools.Why strategies like “just breathe” don’t work for everyone, and how to find what truly helps your nervous system.Inspiration for turning the frustration of recovery into advocacy and hope.This episode is essential for anyone who feels stuck, emotionally volatile, or disconnected from their body after a concussion, and is looking for a nervous-system-based, holistic path forward.Resources Mentioned by Meghan Schneider:1. Interoception Course:Title: On-Demand Course: Interoception, Concussion & Brain InjuryDescription: The first and only course dedicated to the intersection of interoception and brain injury, co-created with Dr. Kelly Mahler. A comprehensive resource for both professionals and survivors.Link: https://www.kelly-mahler.com/product/on-demand-course-interoception-concussion-brain-injury/2. Meghan's Professional Platforms & Contact:Website (Clinical Practice & Consulting): Neuro Meghanhttps://neuromeghan.com/Facebook Page: Neuro Meghan – Follow for insights and updates on neuro-rehab.Email: [email protected] (Meghan welcomes connections from listeners and professionals)3. Weekly Support Group:Meghan hosts a free support group for brain injury survivors and caregivers every Tuesday at 5 PM ET.It is offered in-person (in Pennsylvania) and via Zoom.To Join: Contact Meghan through her website or email for the Zoom link and details.Bethany Lewis & The Concussion Coach:Free Guide: "5 Best Ways to Support Your Loved One Dealing with a Concussion" - Download at www.theconcussioncoach.comConcussion Coaching Program: For personalized mentorship in recovery. Sign up for a free consultation HERE