The Cast of Shrinking on Season 3, Character Growth, and Balancing Comedy With Grief

Film producer Gill Holland joins Kyle Meredith to trace his nearly 30-year career that adds up to around 150 films, from early Sundance breakthroughs like Hurricane Streets to documentaries such as Flow: For Love Of Water and the beloved Big Star doc, plus cult favorites like Greg The Bunny. Holland digs into what a producer actually does, why rejection is basically part of the job description, how the ’90s indie boom cracked Hollywood open, and why that spirit might be poised for a comeback in the age of streaming and AI. Along the way, he explains why Louisville became home, how Kentucky keeps finding its way into his work, and what’s next, including new projects with Sarah Silverman and Bonnie “Prince” Billy.Our Sponsors:* Check out BetterHelp: https://www.betterhelp.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Kyle Meredith sits down with Jessica Williams, Christa Miller, Ted McGinley, and Michael Urie to unpack how Shrinking season 3 on Apple TV might be the show’s richest chapter yet. The cast talks about how the series keeps deepening its characters without losing the jokes, from Gabby’s emotionally loaded monologues and Brian realizing he doesn’t have life figured out, to Derek finally stepping out from behind the zen-smile and Liz living at full-throttle anxiety year-round. Miller dives into the show’s carefully chosen needle drops and long-gestating music moments, Urie breaks down that unforgettable Les Misérables singalong watched silently by Harrison Ford, McGinley reflects on playing Derek as an “iceberg,” and Williams explains how she ramps up for scenes that hit hard right out of the gate.Listen to Jessica Williams, Christa Miller, Ted McGinley, and Michael Urie chat about all this and more or watch the videos on YouTube. Please take the time to like, review, and subscribe to KMW wherever you get your podcasts, and keep up to date with all our series by following the Consequence Podcast Network.Our Sponsors:* Check out BetterHelp: https://www.betterhelp.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Talking with Kyle Meredith, Petula Clark and Don McLean both reflect on what it means to keep creating decades into a career, each from their own corner of the musical universe. Clark walks through the making of Living For Today, from recording in a tiny garden studio in London to shaping the title track’s light-to-serious turn, reconnecting with Tony Hatch, and navigating the nerves (and respect) that come with reinterpreting classics—from Peggy Lee’s “Fever” to the Beatles’ “Blackbird”—while embracing songs like “Downtown” as lifelong companions rather than burdens. McLean, meanwhile, digs into the long road behind Botanical Gardens, rejecting the idea that he lives solely in the shadow of “American Pie” or “Vincent,” and instead framing the album as a mix of styles, metaphors, and ideas that took years—sometimes decades—to finally surface. From songwriting as a visual, almost cinematic act to letting songs wait until they’re ready, both artists land on the same truth: the work doesn’t give up on you, it just keeps knocking until you let it back in.Show your support for Kyle Meredith With by making sure to like, review, and subscribe to KMW wherever you get your podcasts, and keep up to date with all our series by following the Consequence Podcast Network.Our Sponsors:* Check out BetterHelp: https://www.betterhelp.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Platinum-selling singer Carnie Wilson of Wilson Phillips sits down with Kyle Meredith ahead of her 2026 She Rocks Awards honor to talk about the full arc of her career — from the monster success of Wilson Phillips and the harmonies that defined a generation to the overlooked gems like Shadows And Light and the criminally underrated The Wilsons, which reunited her with her father Brian Wilson and let the band rock harder than anyone expected. Wilson opens up about mental health advocacy, sobriety, grief, OCD, motherhood, and why being honest has always mattered more than being polished. There’s also plenty of love for studio life, unreleased vault material, Christmas records, and the idea that history might finally catch up with the albums that slipped through the cracks the first time.Listen to Carnie Wilson chat about all this and more or watch it on YouTube. Please take the time to like, review, and subscribe to KMW wherever you get your podcasts, and keep up to date with all our series by following the Consequence Podcast Network.Our Sponsors:* Check out BetterHelp: https://www.betterhelp.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In a pair of conversations tied together by one very uneasy stash house, Kyle Meredith talks with Catalina Sandino Moreno and Sasha Calle about Netflix’s The Rip, a crime thriller that’s less about shootouts than the slow psychological squeeze of not knowing who to trust. Moreno reflects on returning to morally complex material after Maria Full of Grace, what it’s like sharing scenes with Ben Affleck and Matt Damon, and why this run of action-heavy roles marks a surprisingly fun new chapter in her career. Calle digs into playing Desi, the film’s human wildcard, balancing stillness with intensity, delivering a pivotal monologue, and how her soap-opera background prepared her for pressure-cooker moments. Along the way, both talk about Joe Carnahan’s high-energy set, the film’s ensemble chemistry, and why The Rip works best when it slows down and lets the paranoia breathe.Listen to Catalina Sandino Moreno and Sasha Calle chat about all this and more or watch both interviews on YouTube. Please take the time to like, review, and subscribe to KMW wherever you get your podcasts, and keep up to date with all our series by following the Consequence Podcast Network.Our Sponsors:* Check out BetterHelp: https://www.betterhelp.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Steven Knight and Malachi Kirby dig into the darker second chapter of A Thousand Blows, where the optimism of the first season has been beaten down by reality in 1880s East End London. Knight talks about shooting both seasons back-to-back, building an immersive, walkable version of Victorian London, and grounding the story in real history without sanding off its chaos, while Kirby breaks down Hezekiah’s transformation from hopeful newcomer to a man fueled by pain, rage, and survival instinct. They get into how that massive physical and emotional shift shaped the performances, the toll of a year-long boxing regimen, and why the show’s bleakness is still rooted in resilience and forward motion. It’s a conversation about destiny versus choice, history crashing into personal lives, and how A Thousand Blows uses real people and real places to tell a story that keeps finding new ways to hit harder.Listen to Steven Knight and Malachi Kirby chat about all this and more or watch it on YouTube. Please take the time to like, review, and subscribe to KMW wherever you get your podcasts, and keep up to date with all our series by following the Consequence Podcast Network.Our Sponsors:* Check out BetterHelp: https://www.betterhelp.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Neko Case is back with Neon Grey Midnight Green, her first new album in years, and she’s catching up with Kyle Meredith to talk about why this record feels like a celebration of music itself — the people who make it, the people who listen, and the strange, communal magic that happens when everyone meets in the same room. Case digs into how the album stands apart from her recent autobiography, why trusting herself as a producer matters more than ever, and how recording with real musicians shaped the sound. Along the way, the conversation wanders into dream logic, songwriting perspectives, live performance energy, Indigenous ways of thinking, and her lifelong love of spiders — and how paying attention to the small, overlooked things might just make us better listeners, better humans, and maybe even better roommates to the creatures in our basements.Listen to Neko Case chat about all this and more or watch it on YouTube. Please take the time to like, review, and subscribe to KMW wherever you get your podcasts, and keep up to date with all our series by following the Consequence Podcast Network.Our Sponsors:* Check out BetterHelp: https://www.betterhelp.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Taped back in 2012, as Aimee Mann, Joe Henry, and Over the Rhine’s Karin Bergquist were deep in Louisville filming what would become Pleased to Meet Me, the indie music-film directed by Archie Borders and released in 2013. Talking with Kyle Meredith, the trio breaks down the strange thrill of musicians stepping into acting roles, how the movie’s story about forced collaboration mirrored their real-life creative chaos, and why chasing fame had already lost its appeal. Along the way, they got candid about the fear of embarrassing themselves, the freedom that came after the music industry’s collapse, and why discovery — not commercial validation — is the only thing worth showing up for.Listen to Aimee Mann, Joe Henry & Karin Bergquist chat about all this and more or watch it on YouTube. Please take the time to like, review, and subscribe to KMW wherever you get your podcasts, and keep up to date with all our series by following the Consequence Podcast Network.Our Sponsors:* Check out BetterHelp: https://www.betterhelp.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Walker Scobell sits down with Kyle Meredith to talk about jumping back into the role that changed everything as Percy Jackson and the Olympians heads into its bigger, more physical second season on Disney+, opening up about how stepping away between seasons actually made him a better actor, why Season 2 demanded more stunt work and endurance, and how growing up in real time messes with audience perception on a long-gestating effects-heavy show. Along the way he reflects on working opposite Michael Douglas in Looking Through Water, learning on the fly fight choreography scenes that took weeks to shoot only to end up on the cutting room floor, and why improvisation can suddenly become canon. Plus, he teases Season 3 moments with Kate McKinnon that nearly broke him on set, talks about sharing scenes with comedy heavyweights, and explains why sometimes the best prep is just going back to school and being a normal kid for a while.Listen to Walker Scobell chat about all this and more or watch it on YouTube. Please take the time to like, review, and subscribe to KMW wherever you get your podcasts, and keep up to date with all our series by following the Consequence Podcast Network.Our Sponsors:* Check out BetterHelp: https://www.betterhelp.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Filmmaker Morgan Neville sits down with Kyle Meredith to unpack his Netflix documentary Breakdown 1975, a deep dive into a year when America seemed to collectively lose its footing and still made some of its greatest movies in the process. Neville explains why you can’t tell the story of 1975 without the years around it, how post-Watergate anxiety, cultural whiplash, and political exhaustion bled directly into films like Chinatown, Dog Day Afternoon, Taxi Driver, Jaws, and Star Wars, and why that moment eerily mirrors where we find ourselves 50 years later. The conversation also touches on New Hollywood’s last great gasp, the rise of Reagan-era thinking before Reagan ever took office, how movies functioned as a national therapy session, and why the shared theatrical experience itself now feels endangered.Listen to Morgan Neville chat about all this and more or watch it on YouTube. Please take the time to like, review, and subscribe to KMW wherever you get your podcasts, and keep up to date with all our series by following the Consequence Podcast Network.Our Sponsors:* Check out BetterHelp: https://www.betterhelp.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy