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We are taking a break from producing episodes; if you want to be part of the team that relaunches new shows, email us at [email protected].  Resources Mentioned In This Episode One Page Quitting Guide: https://drive.google.com/file/d/13FlhGi4oVj3iYVTVTIw6zSWfZcuSiJah/view?usp=drive_link Kratom Quitters Speaker Meetings (recorded quitting stories): https://kratomquitters.com/speaker-meetings  New Leaf Recovery Group meetings: https://ikonewsletter1.my.canva.site/new-peer-recovery-support-group  There Is a Way Out meetings: https://kratomquitters.com/meetings  Kratom Anonymous meetings: https://www.kratom-anonymous.org/  Mountainside kratom meeting: https://www.mountainside.com/resources/support-groups/  Tapering tool: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13QpmFV45wUXWuh6YDQPvk51Da3gJMkh4X1WSLpsEwzE/edit?usp=sharing  QK Subreddit supplement guide: https://www.reddit.com/r/quittingkratom/wiki/index/?screen_view_count=1&ext-referrer=SEO#wiki_supplements QuitKit supplements: https://tryquitkit.com/  QuitK supplements: https://www.quitk.com/  Help Meds Letter from Laura Solomon Rapid Detox: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uyldVTY44xfw87HLZhXkvgkJc5kWE_-l/view?usp=sharing  Kicking Kratom book: https://www.amazon.com/Kicking-Kratom-Complete-Addiction-Quitting/dp/B0D3J6YSWY  Nolan's Quitting Kratom YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Nolanwrites  KA kratom book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0H9FMFFB8?binding=hardcover&ref=dbs_dp_rwt_sb_pc_thcv  Seven Years I Barely Remember book: https://www.amazon.com/Seven-Years-Barely-Remember-Breaking/dp/B0GM1PCG2C  7-OH Quitting Website: https://quitting7oh.org/  Kick Kratom website: https://kickkratom.com/  Quitting kratom Spotify playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/03TW7IiY8S5TvHeqMynCV4?si=9oHQ7bFARgKrLC8GgTfukg&utm_source=copy-link&pi=4FFwXsQ8Raa3U Pasha's quitting kratom app: https://www.kratomcut.com/  Other quitting kratom apps: https://leaflessapp.com/   https://kratomfree.app/  https://kfree.app/    WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7    QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety        CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5   https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Nick is going to AA and KA meetings and taking Suboxone to overcome a long-term kratom powder habit that evolved to the use of extracts and a one-time 7-OH relapse.    WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7    QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety        CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5   https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Kelli talks about the death of her son from kratom toxicity. Case–control study of mitragynine deaths in Florida: https://academic.oup.com/jat/article-abstract/50/5/bkag017/8524763 “Is it possible to overdose on kratom? Yes,” he (McCurdy) said: https://spectrumlocalnews.com/us/snplus/health/2026/08/03/7-oh-kratom-confusion-dea-schedule-controlled-substance     WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7    QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety        CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5   https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Welcome back, Lily, as an interviewer. Our guest this week had a previous addiction to alcohol and started taking kratom powder capsules about 5 years ago. Eventually, he switched over to kava-kratom tonics and began abusing prescription ADHD medications alongside kratom. Quitting with the help of an intensive outpatient treatment program and twelve-step meetings, he was also aided by suboxone, which he has tapered down to 3 mg at the time of the interview.    WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7    QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety        CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5   https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Sorry for the delay in getting this out this week, latest episode ever dropped time wise on a Sunday. Trevor found kratom 20 years ago. An RN, his kratom use got intense about a decade ago. He did the powder, extract, and 7-OH escalation pathway, and tried many quitting methods. Trevor's has been quit since January 2026.    WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7    QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety        CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5   https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Lauren and Rocky talk about his 10-year kratom addiction, starting with kratom powder, then to liquid extracts, and ending on 7-OH, like so many in 2026. Off all substances since January 2025, Rocky had many restarts along his path, which required a stint in residential rehab and sober living along with MOUD injection.  Rocky had a previous history of addiction, but kratom wasn't the solution to his substance abuse challenges, and at several points during his decade using kratom, he also became addicted to cocaine and Adderall.    WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7    QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety        CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5   https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Ron shares his journey with Lauren, discussing his experience through opioid addiction, alcohol abuse, and kratom dependence over decades, describing how each substance provided temporary relief but ultimately led to secretive, destructive behavior. With his wife's steady support through multiple tapers and renewed commitment to NA/AA meetings, he's now 44 days clean from kratom and focused on building a lasting support system rather than facing recovery alone.   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7    QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety        CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5   https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Lauren interviews Kara, who shares her journey through years of opioid and heroin addiction, a period of sustained recovery, and an unexpected relapse into kratom use she discovered unknowingly through a drink at a music festival. Kara details the physical and emotional toll of kratom withdrawal, her eventual detox and treatment at the ANR Clinic using advanced neuro-regulation therapy, and the friend whose generosity made her recovery possible. She closes by encouraging listeners struggling with addiction to seek support, practice mindfulness, and recognize their own strength and worth. Quote of the show: "Harder the lesson, the bigger the blessing." ANR treatment: https://anrclinic.com   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7    QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety        CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5   https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Our quitting interviews this week fell through due to technical and scheduling issues. We will return next week to our normal format of sharing stories of people overcoming kratom addiction.  Past guest Hilary (episode #65) is now the executive director of a new organization called End Kratom Addiction. The nonprofit hosted a panel discussion: "America's Kratom Crisis Virtual Panel Discussion" for U.S. congressional staff June 25, 2026. We are replaying the audio here on our feed. Kratom policy and legality is rapidly changing in the U.S. The DEA is propsing a nationwide temporary ban of 7-OH products, along with three related compounds – mitragynine pseudoindoxyl (MP), MGM-15, and MGM-16 – by placing them into Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act by early August 2026. This year Connecticut, Kansas and Tennessee all enacted full kratom bans. Kentucky passed a kratom ban scheduled to go into effect next year, and about 75 cities and counties have also enacted local bans across 12 states in 2026 alone. This panel explains why this is happening, though we realize not all listeners will agree with these actions.  Outside of the use of Suboxone for kratom addiction, the most controversial topic among our audience is whether to ban kratom or not. For the most part, we try to stay neutral on the issue at the podcast. One thing we do want to take a stand on the issue of kratom toxicity and mitragynine lethality. It is an absolute myth that there have been 0 mitragynine-caused deaths from kratom leaf products. A new peer-reviewed study recently provided additional confirmatory evidence disproving the "zero kratom death" misinformation. While people of good faith can disagree on the issue of kratom legality, it not accurate or scientific to base your policy position on kratom never causing deaths.  Orlando Kratom Death Case Control Study: https://doi.org/10.1093/jat/bkag017 Kratom Overdose Policy Study: https://doi.org/10.1080/10826084.2026.2670611  More from "End Kratom Addiction: https://www.endkratomaddiction.org/  WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7    QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety        CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5   https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Lauren talks to James this week. He struggled silently with kratom for years, escalating from casual use to a dangerous 7OH addiction that nearly destroyed his health, memory, and finances. Sharing his expertise as an addiction RN, James ultimately got sober through Ibogaine treatment, disciplined diet and exercise, and leaning on his faith and family.   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7    QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety        CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5   https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00