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Podcaster, professor and wisdom-dropper Kate Bowler joins Kelly for a dive into the Crappy Files of 2024. With honesty, humor, and surprising insights, they unpack everything that challenged them this year - from the deeply personal to the wildly universal.
Come back next week for the Happy Files, when we flip the script and celebrate what went right. Share them both with someone who could use a really good talk right now.
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