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Our guest in this episode is Brett Engeman, the founder of Aspirational Leaders Co. After spending two decades navigating the challenges of fast-growing businesses, Brett now dedicates himself to helping leaders unlock strategic communication flow, operating at the exciting intersection of mindset, human interaction, and artificial intelligence. Our conversation was a fascinating deep dive into solving the frustrating communication breakdowns that stifle growth, exploring the powerful and surprising ways Brett uses AI to create more authentic and effective leaders.

Key points discussed include:

* Great communication starts by diagnosing your own thinking patterns to better connect with others.

* Embrace AI as your co-pilot to gain deep insights and free up time for human-centered leadership.

* In a world of instant answers, your greatest superpower is deep curiosity and asking brilliant questions.

Listen to the podcast to find out more.

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Show Notes from this episode with Brett Engeman, Aspirational Leaders Co.

It was an absolute pleasure to welcome Brett Engeman of Aspirational Leaders Co. to the Innovabuzz podcast. Brett is on a mission to solve a problem that almost every entrepreneur has felt: that frustrating sense of entrapment when communication breaks down in a fast-moving business. He works at the fascinating intersection of mindset, communication, and artificial intelligence, and our conversation was a brilliant exploration of how leaders can unlock flow and scale their organizations by, first and foremost, learning to communicate better.

What I loved about our chat was how Brett brought it all back to a fundamental truth. We’ve all been in those work environments where the communication is good, where everyone feels like a genuine contributor to a shared mission. As Brett said, when it’s good, "magic happens." People love coming to work. But we’ve also seen the flip side, when growth and new teams lead to silos and misunderstandings, and that magic quickly fades.

Brett has seen the good and the bad over his 20 years in scaling businesses, and he’s learned that even leaders with the best intentions can inadvertently create these communication gaps. It’s not about blame; it’s about awareness. His insights offer a powerful blueprint for rediscovering that collaborative magic, no matter the size of your team.

It All Starts with You: A Diagnosis of Your Own Thinking Patterns

So, where does a leader begin? According to Brett, the first step is an inward one. He starts his work with leaders by conducting a "communication diagnosis" to help them understand how they themselves think and process information. This was a lightbulb moment for me. We all have our own default settings; a leader might be a "visual thinker" who sees the big picture, the grand vision.

The problem arises when they're communicating that vision to a team member who is, as Brett explained, more "kinesthetic" and detail-oriented. The leader is talking about the "why," while the team member is desperate to understand the "how." Without this awareness, a disconnect is almost guaranteed. It’s a simple yet profound realization that miscommunication often starts not with what is said, but with a mismatch in how it's processed.

From Vision to Action: How to Finally Get Everyone on the Same Page

Once you have that self-awareness, you can start bridging the gap. Brett shared some wonderfully practical advice, emphasizing that leaders must consciously cater their message to all thinking types. And his golden rule for getting a message to stick is one I won't soon forget: "If you think you're communicating a lot... do it five times more." In a vacuum of information, people will naturally create their own stories, so consistent and clear repetition is your greatest ally.

This extends to the very language we use in our values and vision statements. Brett gave a brilliant example of a vague vision to be the "biggest and best." What does that actually mean? Is it profit? Market share? Customer satisfaction? He urges leaders to break these terms down into specific, unified meanings. When you do that, the vision transforms from a nice phrase on a wall into a tangible goal that everyone can see, understand, and work toward together.

My Unexpected Co-pilot: Using AI to See Our Communication Clearly

This is where our conversation took a fascinating turn into the world of AI. Brett shared how, almost by accident, he discovered AI could be a powerful mirror for communication. By feeding transcripts of his research calls into an AI model loaded with his own custom language filters, he could extract incredible insights about a person's communication style—a process that would have manually taken him nearly 20 hours.

This isn't just about spotting filler words, though Brett humbly admitted it helped him notice his own overuse of "um." His AI-powered diagnostic can identify a person's core thinking patterns, their motivation strategies (are they moving towards a goal or away from a consequence?), and so much more. It's a stunning example of using technology not to replace human intuition, but to augment and accelerate it.

Your Second Brain: Leveraging AI for More Than Just Mundane Tasks

Brett sees AI's role extending far beyond diagnostics. He uses these fantastic metaphors of AI as a "second brain" you can use for brainstorming or a "bunch of smart friends in the room" you can bounce ideas off of without annoying your entire team. It's a way to refine your thinking before you even bring an idea to the table for a more meaningful discussion.

By embracing AI to handle these kinds of tasks, or to automate the mundane work that clutters our days, leaders can free up their most valuable resource: their time and attention. This allows them to step away from the keyboard and do what only they can do: be present with their team, listen with empathy, and cultivate genuine human connection.

The Paradox of Progress: Why Authenticity is Your New Superpower

We also touched on a compelling paradox of our modern age. As AI-generated content becomes more prevalent, our human capacity to spot in-authenticity is becoming sharper than ever. People can sense when a LinkedIn post or an email is written by a robot, and they are craving authenticity more than ever.

This means the rise of AI doesn't diminish the need for great leaders; it makes them more critical. The leaders who will truly connect and inspire are those who are emotionally intelligent, who show up as themselves, and who aren't afraid to be human. Technology can handle the tasks, but it can't replicate true presence and empathy.

The One Skill to Cultivate for the Next 50 Years

So what is the most profound skill leaders should be cultivating for the future? When I asked Brett to look 50 years down the road, his answer was simple but powerful: learn to be curious. In a world where AI can provide answers in an instant, the uniquely human ability to ask great questions and to be genuinely curious about another person's perspective will be invaluable.

It's about seeking to understand, not just to be understood. It's about fostering deeper connections and growing together, rather than living in conflict or a state of constant misunderstanding. This is the human skill that technology will never replicate, and it is the foundation of truly effective leadership.

In Summary: My conversation with Brett Engeman was a masterclass in modern leadership. It’s a call to look inward at our own communication styles, to be relentlessly clear in our vision, and to embrace technology like AI as a co-pilot that allows us to be more human, not less. By focusing on authentic connection and deep curiosity, we can navigate the future and build businesses where the magic truly happens.

The Buzz - Our Innovation Round

Here are Brett's answers to the questions of our innovation round. Listen to the conversation to get the full scoop.

* Most innovative use of AI to enhance human relationships – Use AI as a thinking co-pilot to clear your head and craft a better response before you react.

* Best thing to integrate AI and human connection – Creating and using diagnostic filters in AI to reveal a person's unique communication style.

* Differentiate by leveraging AI – Use AI as an exploratory tool to delve into your passions and help you find your purpose.

Action

Start exploring AI as a practical support tool. Record a practice conversation with ChatGPT and ask for feedback on your communication, or give it a large goal and have it break it down into daily steps for you.

Reach Out

You can reach out and thank Brett on his website, where you can find his information and book a complimentary 30-minute discovery session.

Links:

* Website - Aspirational Leaders Co

* LinkedIn

* LinkedIn - Aspirational Leaders Co

* Facebook

Cool Things About Brett

* The AI-Powered Self-Communicator: Brett has a genuine commitment to personal growth, using AI not just to diagnose clients' communication styles but also to analyze and improve his own filler words, like his former habit of saying "you know" often.

* The Humanity-First AI Advocate: Despite his expertise in cutting-edge AI applications, Brett stands out by emphasizing that the more we advance with AI, the more valuable and sought-after genuine human connection becomes.

* The Mission-Driven Niche Master: Brett's current laser focus on unlocking scalability through communication stems from a powerful, world-changing belief: that if everyone communicated better, the world would have far fewer problems.

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