S3E21 - Geoffrey Kelly on Thirteen Perfect Fugitives

In this episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined by Chief International Correspondent for ABC News, James Longman. In his new show, Heist At The Louvre, from 20/20 & ABC News, James digs deep into the circumstances and events leading up to the notorious Crown Jewel Heist that took place on 10/19/25 in Paris. He examines the heist, the characters involved and what darker elements might be lurking on the peripheral. Listen to Heist At The Louvre: ⁠https://abc.com/news/5dff357d-4681-4ca5-81da-1effa68044cb/category/1138628⁠ Follow James Longman ⁠https://www.jameslongman.com/⁠ ⁠https://abcnews.com/author/james_longman⁠ ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jamesaalongman/?hl=en⁠ ⁠https://x.com/JamesAALongman⁠ Follow Missing: IG: https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/. TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm. FB: https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM. X: https://twitter.com/MissingCSM. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0yRXkJrZC85otfT7oXMcri. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/missing/id1006974447. Follow Crawlspace: IG: https://www.instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast. TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast. FB: https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast. X: https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7iSnqnCf27NODdz0pJ1GvJ. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340. Check out our entire network at http://crawlspace-media.com/. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this new episode, ⁠Crawlspace Media⁠'s Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with author Matthew Campbell about his new book, The Man Who Stole the Gods: A True Story of War, Obsession, and a Global Art Conspiracy. Check out Matthew's site: https://www.matthew-campbell.com/. Pick up his book: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/739182/the-man-who-stole-the-gods-by-matthew-campbell/. https://www.amazon.com/Man-Who-Stole-Gods-Conspiracy/dp/0593716000. Check out Matthew's writing at Bloomberg: https://www.bloomberg.com/authors/APrBP735mh8/matthew-campbell. Visit the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum: ⁠⁠https://www.gardnermuseum.org/⁠⁠. Follow us on social media: ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/empty_frames⁠⁠.  ⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/EmptyFramespodcast⁠⁠/. ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/emptyframespodcast⁠⁠/. ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb4xoWHxXY1fWrK93A84zkg⁠⁠. Follow Missing: TT: ⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm⁠⁠. YT: ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm⁠⁠. IG: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/⁠⁠. X: ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠. FB: ⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠. Follow Crawlspace: X: ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod⁠⁠. FB: ⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠. IG: ⁠⁠https://www.Instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠. TT: ⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠. Check out our entire network at ⁠⁠http://crawlspace-media.com/⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this new episode, Crawlspace Media's Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with Eric Ulis about his Gardner heist suspect Brian McDevitt. We revisit the history of McDevitt's connection to the heist before uncovering new information and new evidence that Eric is working on. Follow Eric Ulis: ⁠https://ericulis.com/⁠. YouTube:⁠ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCewfNi-lPOshvd9t55NXbbA/⁠. Twitter: ⁠https://twitter.com/ericulis⁠. IG: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/ericulisofficial/⁠. Last Seen's episode with Stephanie: ⁠https://www.wbur.org/lastseen/2018/11/05/flimflammer⁠. Visit the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum: ⁠https://www.gardnermuseum.org/⁠. Follow us on social media: ⁠https://twitter.com/empty_frames⁠.  ⁠https://www.facebook.com/EmptyFramespodcast⁠/. ⁠https://www.instagram.com/emptyframespodcast⁠/. ⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb4xoWHxXY1fWrK93A84zkg⁠. Follow Missing: TT: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm⁠. YT: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm⁠. IG: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/⁠. X: ⁠https://twitter.com/MissingCSM⁠. FB: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM⁠. Follow Crawlspace: X: ⁠https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod⁠. FB: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠. IG: ⁠https://www.Instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠. TT: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast⁠. Check out our entire network at ⁠http://crawlspace-media.com/⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this new episode, ⁠⁠Crawlspace Media⁠⁠'s Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with retired FBI special agent and author Geoffrey Kelly about his new book, ⁠⁠Thirteen Perfect Fugitives⁠⁠, about the 1990 Gardner Museum heist in Boston, Massachusetts. Geoff was head of the Gardner investigation for the FBI for many years and after his recent retirement he wrote this outstanding book. Check it out wherever you get your books! Links below. ⁠⁠https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Thirteen-Perfect-Fugitives/Geoffrey-Kelly/9798895653173⁠⁠. ⁠⁠https://www.amazon.com/Thirteen-Perfect-Fugitives-Murder-Largest/dp/B0FDGTZJH9⁠⁠. This interview was also recently published on Crawlspace and Missing. Check out Quince: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://quince.com/MISSING⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out Kensington Publishing: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.kensingtonbooks.com⁠⁠⁠. Visit the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.gardnermuseum.org/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow us on social media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/empty_frames⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/EmptyFramespodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠/. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/emptyframespodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠/. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb4xoWHxXY1fWrK93A84zkg⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Missing: TT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. YT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Crawlspace: X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.Instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out our entire network at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://crawlspace-media.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this new episode, Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak about the jewel heist at the Louvre in October of 2025. This episode was researched by Kathleen Studer. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Louvre_robbery https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg7nrlkg0zxo https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/24/europe/louvre-heist-lift-maker-scli-intl https://abcnews.go.com/International/thieves-robbed-louvre-minutes-minute-minute-breakdown-daring/story?id=126719610 https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/20/style/france-louvre-heist-worrying-escalation-intl-hnk https://time.com/7326868/louvre-robbery-museum-crown-jewels/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2025/10/24/robbery-coins-french-museum-louvre-heist/86872594007/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/louvre-transfers-jewels-bank-france-after-heist-rtl-reports-2025-10-25/ https://apnews.com/article/louvre-jewels-heist-ap-photo-thibault-camus-06a43f6e6b46689754e7f57929d0151d https://nypost.com/2025/10/22/lifestyle/infamous-jewel-thief-slams-louvre-robbers-as-idiots-and-reveals-shocking-way-they-could-have-smuggled-gems-out-of-paris/ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9d6e2wv884o https://www.rfi.fr/en/france/20251024-dna-leads-and-video-trail-drive-search-for-stolen-louvre-crown-jewels https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/20/style/louvre-heist-which-jewels-stolen-intl-hnk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Crown_Jewels https://www.louvre.fr/en/explore/the-palace/sun-gold-and-diamonds https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgk0y97v0go https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/26/europe/louvre-robbery-france-arrests-intl Follow us on social media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/empty_frames⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/EmptyFramespodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠/. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/emptyframespodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠/. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb4xoWHxXY1fWrK93A84zkg⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Missing: IG: https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/. TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm. FB: https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM. X: https://twitter.com/MissingCSM. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0yRXkJrZC85otfT7oXMcri. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/missing/id1006974447. Follow Crawlspace: IG: https://www.instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast. TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast. FB: https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast. X: https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7iSnqnCf27NODdz0pJ1GvJ. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340. Check out our entire network at http://crawlspace-media.com/. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna welcome two new friends of the show to the conversation. Mr. Stayton Bonner & Mr. Joe Ford. Stayton wrote the book, The Million Dollar Car Detective and Joe Ford IS the Car Detective. The car in question is the stolen 1938 Talbot-Lago Teardrop, often described as the "most beautiful car in the world." This episode was previously published on Crawlspace on August 31st, 2025. Pick up your copy of The Million Dollar Car Detective: ⁠https://www.blackstonepublishing.com/products/book-d292⁠ ⁠https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-million-dollar-car-detective-inside-the-worldwide-hunt-for-a-stolen-7-million-car-stayton-bonner/22452340?ean=9781982650681&next=t⁠ ⁠https://www.amazon.com/Million-Dollar-Car-Detective-Worldwide-Million/dp/1982650680⁠ Follow Stayton ⁠https://x.com/staytonbonner?lang=en⁠ ⁠https://www.instagram.com/p/C50_Kx9Obvq/ Follow Crawlspace: IG:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/7iSnqnCf27NODdz0pJ1GvJ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Missing: IG:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Spotify:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/0yRXkJrZC85otfT7oXMcri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/missing/id1006974447⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out our entire network at⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://crawlspace-media.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined by new friend of the show, executive producer and investigative journalist Maria Awes. Maria's production company, Committee Films, helmed the ABC News Studios doc, Ruby Red Handed: Stealing America's Most Famous Pair of Shoes. It's a wild and fascinating account of the theft and recovery of Judy Garland's ruby slippers from the classic movie, The Wizard of Oz. Watch Ruby Red Handed: Stealing America's Most Famous Pair of Shoes: ⁠https://www.hulu.com/series/ruby-red-handed-stealing-americas-most-famous-pair-of-shoes-4dd523b6-cfb6-4d4f-99c8-9febd2e4af68⁠ Follow Maria Awes: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/maria-awes-315b3329⁠ ⁠https://x.com/maria_awes?lang=en⁠ Check out what Committee Films has going on: ⁠https://committeefilms.com/⁠ We are going to CrimeCon in Denver CO. Sept. 5th - 7th! For 10% off your standard pass, use code "crawlspace" at checkout. Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.crimecon.com/CC25⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Crawlspace: IG:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/7iSnqnCf27NODdz0pJ1GvJ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Missing: IG:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Spotify:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/0yRXkJrZC85otfT7oXMcri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/missing/id1006974447⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out our entire network at⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://crawlspace-media.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this new episode, Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with Kerry Joyce AKA the Muddy River Fact Checker about his favorite suspect Rod Ramsay, was Abath involved and much more. Check out Kerry's site at https://gardnerheist.com/. Follow Kerry Joyce on X: ⁠https://x.com/gardnerheist. Visit the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.gardnermuseum.org/⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow us on social media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/empty_frames⁠⁠⁠⁠.  ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/EmptyFramespodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠/. ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/emptyframespodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠/. ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb4xoWHxXY1fWrK93A84zkg⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Missing: TT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠. YT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠. IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/⁠⁠⁠⁠. X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Crawlspace: X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠. IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.Instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out our entire network at ⁠⁠⁠⁠http://crawlspace-media.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this new episode, Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with Turbo Paul Hendry aka Art Hostage. Turbo is a return guest, is no stranger to making shocking statements and this conversation is no different. Follow Turbo on YT: https://www.youtube.com/@arthostage8586. IG: https://www.instagram.com/arthostageturbopaul/. X: https://x.com/ArtHostage. Visit the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.gardnermuseum.org/⁠⁠⁠. Follow us on social media: ⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/empty_frames⁠⁠⁠.  ⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/EmptyFramespodcast⁠⁠⁠/. ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/emptyframespodcast⁠⁠⁠/. ⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb4xoWHxXY1fWrK93A84zkg⁠⁠⁠. Follow Missing: TT: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm⁠⁠⁠. YT: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm⁠⁠⁠. IG: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/⁠⁠⁠. X: ⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠. FB: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠. Follow Crawlspace: X: ⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod⁠⁠⁠. FB: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠. IG: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.Instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠. TT: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠. Check out our entire network at ⁠⁠⁠http://crawlspace-media.com/⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this new episode, Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with author and filmmaker Barry Avrich about his new book The Devil Wears Rothko about an intense forgery scheme involving priceless art. Get the book here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Devil-Wears-Rothko/Barry-Avrich/9798888454527. https://www.amazon.com/Devil-Wears-Rothko-Inside-Scandal/dp/B0DJKYT463. Visit the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum: ⁠⁠https://www.gardnermuseum.org/⁠⁠. Follow us on social media: ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/empty_frames⁠⁠.  ⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/EmptyFramespodcast⁠⁠/. ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/emptyframespodcast⁠⁠/. ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb4xoWHxXY1fWrK93A84zkg⁠⁠. Follow Missing: TT: ⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm⁠⁠. YT: ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm⁠⁠. IG: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/⁠⁠. X: ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠. FB: ⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠. Follow Crawlspace: X: ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod⁠⁠. FB: ⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠. IG: ⁠⁠https://www.Instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠. TT: ⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠. Check out our entire network at ⁠⁠http://crawlspace-media.com/⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices