GGGG Ep 9 - The Future of Schooling: Rethinking What, How, and Why We Teach

Joining Mark Taylor as part of this series with Prof Dr Ger Graus OBE is Rebecca Durose-Croft a Managing Director with over 20 years’ experience in educational publishing and the evolving world of edtech.Rebecca has built a reputation for bringing together editorial expertise, strategic thinking and a deep understanding of how learners engage with content - leading teams to create high-quality publications and programmes that truly make a difference.With a strong commitment to inclusion and accessibility, and a track record of working closely with educators, policymakers and partners across the sector, Rebecca is a thoughtful and influential voice in how education continues to adapt and innovate.Takeaways:We discusses the evolving nature of educational content and its impact on schooling.Rebecca Durose-Croft emphasizes the importance of tailoring educational material to individual learners' needs.National curriculum reforms prompt a reevaluation of educational practices and content delivery methods.The conversation highlights the necessity of incorporating real-world applications into learning experiences.Technology plays a crucial role in modern education, but it must be integrated thoughtfully to enhance learning.Collaboration between educators and content creators is essential for producing effective educational resources.Chapters:00:15 - Introducing Rebecca Durose-Croft01:58 - Exploring New Educational Curriculums16:16 - The Importance of Context in Language Learning23:27 - The Role of Technology in Modern Education31:20 - The Evolution of Educational Technology45:06 - The Role of Educators in Curriculum Development51:49 - The Importance of Trusting Teachers in Educationhttps://www.besa.org.uk/https://www.gergraus.comGet the book – Through a Different Lens: Lessons from a Life in Education🔥 Discover more about Education on Fire, get a FREE pdf of 10 guest resources and be part of our season finale with Ger.https://www.educationonfire.com🔥 Support the show – Buy me a coffee, Merch and Sponsorship Opportunitieshttps://www.educationonfire.com/support#EducationOnFireShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)Their Primary First Journal: https://www.educationonfire.com/nape

Today we bring together Prof Dr Ger Graus OBE and Cristian Fabbi, Director of the Fondazione Reggio Children, for a deeply human and intellectually rich conversation about the future of early years education.Ger and Cristian share personal stories and the work of their friend and colleague Carla Rinaldi — one of the world's most influential educational thinkers. They explore what it truly means to place children at the heart of learning. From the rubble of post-war Italy to classrooms in Soweto, Nairobi, and Napoli, the Reggio Emilia approach has quietly transformed how educators around the world understand childhood, creativity, community, and the very purpose of school.This is a conversation full of warmth, courage, and genuine hope — a reminder that when we believe in children's potential, extraordinary things happen.Key Takeaways1. Start at the very beginning — literallyThe Reggio Emilia approach insists that quality education must begin from birth, not age 3, 5, or 7. Neuroscience has since confirmed what Carla Rinaldi and Loris Malaguzzi argued decades ago: the 0–3 years are the most critical window for brain development and should be treated as education, not just childcare.2. Children have 100 languages Every child is born with the capacity to express themselves through music, movement, clay, drawing, storytelling, and more. The role of early education is to keep all of these "languages" alive, rather than narrowing children down to reading, writing, and arithmetic alone.3. The environment is the third teacherAlongside the child and the educator, the physical environment plays a crucial pedagogical role. Spaces should be intentionally designed to provoke curiosity, creativity, and collaboration — a principle as relevant to theme parks and museums as it is to nurseries.4. Document processes, not just productsOne of Reggio Emilia's most powerful innovations is pedagogical documentation — capturing the how of children's learning through observation, photographs, and reflection. This shifts the focus from testing what children remember to understanding how they think, discover, and grow.5. Children are citizens from birthCarla Rinaldi's conviction was clear: children are not future citizens — they are citizens now, with rights and responsibilities from the moment they are born.6. Quality education is an antidote to social harmThe Fondazione Reggio Children works in communities facing criminality, poverty, and conflict — from Naples to Palermo to Soweto.7. We must shift from "I" to "We"A powerful reflection from Cristian: modern education has rightly championed individual development, but we've lost something vital at the community level. The next step is helping children develop their life projects together with others — rebuilding the communal bonds that hold society together.8. Invest in foundations, not just outcomesGer offers a striking metaphor: we build houses by investing heavily in their foundations. Yet in education, the earliest years — the true foundation — receive the least funding and attention.9. Research should be participatory and generousThe Fondazione's PhD programme is deliberately multidisciplinary — bringing together architects, biologists, poets, and musicians — with the goal of generating processes other educators can actually use, not just papers that gather dust on library shelves.10. The Reggio Emilia approach is a philosophy, not a formulaIt cannot simply be copied. A school inspired by Reggio Emilia in Indonesia will look entirely different from one in Nairobi — and that's by design. The approach adapts to local context, culture, and community, making it genuinely universal without being prescriptive.Chapters:00:06 - Exploring New Themes in Education01:09 - Introduction to the Reggio Emilia Approach16:18 - The Legacy of Carla: A Reflection on Education and Humanity19:02 - Introduction to the Reggio Emilia Approach30:03 - The Importance of Community in Education34:58 - The Importance of Documentation in Education44:17 - Exploring the Role of Play in Education55:28 - Investing in Quality Education57:41 - Community Perspectives on Education and Citizenshiphttps://www.frchildren.org/enhttps://www.reggiochildren.it/reggio-emilia-approach/https://www.gergraus.comGet the book – Through a Different Lens: Lessons from a Life in Education🔥 Discover more about Education on Fire, get a FREE pdf of 10 guest resources and be part of our season finale with Ger.https://www.educationonfire.com🔥 Support the show – Buy me a coffee, Merch and Sponsorship Opportunitieshttps://www.educationonfire.com/support#EducationOnFireShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)Their Primary First Journal: https://www.educationonfire.com/nape

Today I'm delighted to chat with Matthew Kaufman from I Love Camp. He has spent more than three decades creating environments where children and staff thrive and he has done this as a camper, counselor, and now summer camp director.People learn, grow, and connect best in community settings where problem-solving, creativity, and play come first.Most workplaces, schools, and families stumble into community by accident, but camp builds it on purpose. It's a practice that can be learned and applied anywhere.Using these insights Matt has written a book called The Campfire Effect which explores the neuroscience behind what makes camp work. It examines five neurochemicals that drive human connection and shows how camp naturally creates the conditions for each one to flourish. Then it offers practical frameworks for applying these lessons to workplaces, classrooms, and homes.This isn't a book about summer camp. It's a book about belonging, using camp as the lens.5 Key Takeaways:Camp is school for relationships — The activities matter less than who you're doing them with. The real curriculum is learning how to be a good friend, teammate, and citizen.Stress + Support = Growth — Matt's core framework. Remove all struggle and kids become fragile; struggle without support leads to bullying. The sweet spot is challenge within a safe, supported environment.Camp levels the playing field — Unlike school, which has few "paths to dignity," camp offers dozens of ways to shine — chess, drama, sportsmanship, leadership — helping the invisible or left-out child find their place.The skills camp teaches are exactly what AI can't replace — Problem solving, interpersonal communication, genuine relationship-building — camp has been teaching these for decades, and they're now the most valuable skills in an AI world.Oxytocin is the secret ingredient — The Campfire Effect (Matt's book) explains the neuroscience: when kids feel emotionally and physically safe, oxytocin flows, trust builds, and real growth becomes possible. This isn't magic — it's science.Chapters:00:00 - The Importance of Relationships at Camp04:16 - Understanding the Role of Camp in Child Development13:06 - The Importance of Camp in Personal Development20:29 - The Campfire Effect: Understanding the Transformative Power of Camp25:22 - Understanding Camp Experiences28:42 - The Impact of Technology on Youth Development34:25 - The Impact of Social Media on Youthhttps://www.ilove.camphttps://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewjkaufmanhttps://www.instagram.com/mattlovescamp🔥 Discover more about Education on Fire, get a FREE pdf of 10 guest resources.https://www.educationonfire.com🔥 Support the show – Buy me a coffee, Merch and Sponsorship Opportunitieshttps://www.educationonfire.com/support#EducationOnFireShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)Their Primary First Journal: https://www.educationonfire.com/napehttp://creativeamplifiers.substack.com/

Joe Reed, founder of Pulse, discusses how his student support platform is transforming the way schools identify and respond to struggling students. Rather than relying solely on traditional metrics like grades and attendance, Pulse brings together teachers, parents, counsellors, and therapists around a shared, real-time picture of each student's wellbeing. Joe shares the story behind the platform — rooted in over 15 years of community resilience work across South Africa and the United States — and explains how Pulse is designed to reduce teacher burden while delivering faster, more targeted support to the students who need it most.Five TakeawaysLate data leads to late intervention. Grades and attendance are important, but they're lagging indicators. By the time they dip, a student may already be in crisis. Pulse aims to surface earlier, softer signals before problems escalate.Every student gets an individualised plan. Rather than one-size-fits-all reporting, Pulse builds a personalised plan for each student, with specific goals tracked by everyone involved in that child's support network.Voice reporting is a game-changer for teachers. Instead of filling out forms after a long school day, teachers can speak into their phone for 30 seconds — capturing richer context in a fraction of the time. This makes compliance feel less like a burden and more like a natural part of the day.Pulse connects with existing school systems. Rather than asking schools to start from scratch, Pulse is designed to integrate alongside the tools already in use — lowering the barrier to adoption and making the transition as smooth as possible.The "why" runs deeper than edtech. Joe's motivation stems from over 15 years of community resilience work, first in South Africa and then across the US. Pulse wasn't built to sell software — it was built to restore communities by empowering the frontline educators and support staff within them.Chapters:00:00 - A New Approach to Teaching06:00 - Challenges in Educational Reporting and Support08:51 - Integrating Technology in Education18:32 - Introduction to the Learning Management System22:32 - The Intersection of Education and Community Development28:55 - Empowerment in Educationhttps://www.pulseconnect.ushttps://www.linkedin.com/company/pulseconnectus/🔥 Discover more about Education on Fire, get a FREE pdf of 10 guest resources.https://www.educationonfire.com🔥 Support the show – Buy me a coffee, Merch and Sponsorship Opportunitieshttps://www.educationonfire.com/support#EducationOnFireShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)Their Primary First Journal: https://www.educationonfire.com/napehttp://creativeamplifiers.substack.com/

Josh Dorfman is a climate entrepreneur, author, and media personality. He is the CEO and host of Supercool, a media company covering real-world climate solutions that cut carbon, increase profits, and enhance modern life. Josh was previously the co-founder and CEO of Plantd, a carbon-negative building materials manufacturer, which was named to Fast Company’s list of the World’s Most Innovative Companies in 2024. He has founded two modern design sustainable furniture companies, directed Vine.com, an Amazon e-commerce business specializing in natural and organic products, and served as the CEO of The Collider, the nation’s first innovation center for climate resilience and adaptation. Additionally, Josh was previously known as The Lazy Environmentalist, a media brand he developed into an award-winning television series on Sundance Channel, a daily radio show on SiriusXM, and two popular books.His work has been featured in The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, Forbes, TechCrunch, Fast Company, and Reuters. Josh has also made regular appearances on national television and radio programs, including Morning Joe, Fox & Friends, and NPR’s All Things Considered, and is the only guest to ever ride a bike onto The Martha Stewart Show.Josh holds an MBA from the Thunderbird School of Global Management and a BA from the University of Pennsylvania.5 takeaways:Clean energy is bigger than AI. Global clean energy investment hit $2.3 trillion in 2025 — dwarfing AI spending — yet it barely makes the headlines.Talk solutions, not just problems. Research consistently shows that solution-focused storytelling is what gets people to genuinely care about climate.Systems beat individual action. The biggest impact comes from businesses embedding sustainability into infrastructure — making the right choice the default, not an effort.Any skill set has a place in the climate economy. Finance, law, marketing, design — the clean energy transition needs all of it. It's becoming the economy, full stop.Build resilience, not just inspiration. Young people need the tools to hold both problems and solutions in mind — and find real agency through their careers, not just their recycling bin.Chapters:00:00 - The Front Lines of Sustainability00:49 - The Journey into Climate Awareness13:48 - The Shift Towards Sustainable Business Practices25:51 - The Rise of Climate Innovation34:21 - The Importance of Empowerment in Educationhttps://getsuper.cool/Newsletter | https://supercool.beehiiv.com/subscribeYouTube | https://www.youtube.com/@getsupercoolClimate Adoption Playbook | https://getsuper.cool/playbook/LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/company/getsupercoolhttps://www.educationonfire.com🔥 Support the show – Buy me a coffee, Merch and Sponsorship Opportunitieshttps://www.educationonfire.com/support#EducationOnFireShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)Their Primary First Journal: https://www.educationonfire.com/nape

As we transition into the Easter break here in the UK, I will take the next couple weeks off to spend time with my family.But today I share the events and products produced by National Association of Primary Education. These include:Reading Conference with University of BedfordshireMaintaining Curiosity in the Curriculum - Christian Schiller Lecture - LondonPrimary First JournalBook release of 'John Coe - an Enlightened Voice for Primary Education'Links to more information below.Chapters:00:01 - Introduction to Education On Fire Podcast00:55 - Upcoming Educational Events01:51 - Upcoming Events and Lectures02:49 - Introduction to New Resources04:23 - Reflecting on the Past and Looking Forward04:51 - The Essence of Education🔥 Discover more about Education on Fire — grab your FREE pdf of 10 guest resources: 👉 https://www.educationonfire.com ☕ Support the show — Buy Me a Coffee, Merch & Sponsorship: 👉 https://www.educationonfire.com/support Show Sponsor — National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) 📖 Primary First Journal: https://www.educationonfire.com/nape 🎤 2026 Conference Keynote: Reading for Pleasure — Dr Roger McDonald Workshops: Writing, TESOL, Oracy, Drama & Storytelling, Poetry 👉 https://educationonfire.com/reading📚 Maintaining Curiosity in the Curriculum - Christian Schiller Lecture with Claire Moloney-Banks https://www.nape.org.uk/the-schiller-lecture-2026

Cerys Griffiths is the Head of BBC Bitesize, the BBC's free, online learning resource for students aged 5 to 16, their teachers and parents. Bitesize also aims to support educating the whole child through it's Careers, Study Support and media literacy offer, Other Side of the Story, as well as special educational initiatives like the Bitesize Guide to AI.Cerys was, for many years, a journalist in the North West, a TV and newspaper reporter and then an editor of news programmes for both ITV and the BBC. She is on the board of the Micro:bit Education Foundation and is an advisory board member for the Science and Industry Museum in Manchester.Key TakeawaysTeen attitudes to AI are complex — BBC Bitesize's annual Teen Summit Survey found a third of teenagers are worried about AI's impact on their career prospects and the spread of misinformation, while 47% are already using AI tools for homework and revision.Confidence can be a blind spot — Many young people feel they already know enough about AI when in reality they don't fully understand its deeper implications. The challenge is helping them recognise what they don't yet know.Critical thinking is the core skill — Rather than focusing on specific tools (which change rapidly), BBC Bitesize's approach centres on equipping young people with the ability to assess, verify and question the information they encounter every day.AI as a collaborator, not a substitute — Cerys emphasises that AI works best as a companion tool. Young people still need to be thinkers, creators and developers alongside it — not passive users of it.A positive, empowering outlook — BBC Bitesize's Guide to AI uses real young people in real-world scenarios to show both the benefits and risks of AI, deliberately avoiding a fear-based approach.New resources to tackle misinformation — Solve the Story is a brand new episodic mini-drama for classroom use, where students must solve a fake news mystery across six episodes — a creative, engaging way to build media literacy skills.Trust is BBC Bitesize's superpower — All content is reviewed by practising teachers and education consultants, making it one of the most trusted sources of educational content in the UK.Chapters:00:03 - Introduction to BBC BiteSize06:08 - The Evolution of AI in Education09:35 - The Role of AI in Education and Misinformation18:55 - Introducing 'Solve the Story' - A New Educational Initiative23:20 - Educational Content Creation and Trust29:00 - Empowering Youth Through Educationhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesizeInstagram: @bbcbitesize🔥 Discover more about Education on Fire, get a FREE pdf of 10 guest resources.https://www.educationonfire.com🔥 Support the show – Buy me a coffee, Merch and Sponsorship Opportunitieshttps://www.educationonfire.com/support#EducationOnFireShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)Their Primary First Journal: https://www.educationonfire.com/nape2026 ConferenceKeynote : Reading for Pleasure – Dr Roger McDonaldWorkshops focusing on National Year of Reading : Writing, TESOL, Oracy, Drama and Story Telling, Poetryhttps://educationonfire.com/reading

Ross W. Greene, PhD, is a clinical psychologist and the originator of the innovative, evidence-based approach called Collaborative & Proactive Solutions (CPS), as described in his influential books The Explosive Child, Lost at School, Lost & Found, and Raising Human Beings. He developed and executive produced the award-winning documentary film The Kids We Lose. Dr. Greene was on the faculty at Harvard Medical School for over twenty years and is now founding director of the nonprofit Lives in the Balance. He is also currently adjunct Professor in the Department of Psychology at Virginia Tech. Dr. Greene has worked with several thousand kids with concerning behaviors and their caregivers, and he and his colleagues have overseen implementation and evaluation of the CPS model in countless schools, inpatient psychiatry units, and residential and juvenile detention facilities, with dramatic effect: significant reductions in recidivism, discipline referrals, detentions, suspensions, and use of restraint and seclusion. Takeaways:Dr. Ross Greene emphasizes the necessity of adopting proactive strategies in education to better support children facing mental health challenges.We discusses the importance of meeting each child where they are developmentally, rather than enforcing a one-size-fits-all approach in education.Dr. Greene's approach advocates for understanding and addressing the underlying problems causing concerning behaviors rather than merely modifying the behaviours themselves.The conversation highlights the alarming increase in mental health issues among children, which necessitates a shift in educational practices and societal attitudes towards youth.A focus on developmental variability is crucial in education, as every child's needs and experiences are unique and deserve tailored support.Chapters:00:11 - Introduction to Dr. Ross Greene and Collaborative Solutions08:17 - Meeting Every Kid Where They're At10:54 - Understanding Developmental Variability in Education22:34 - Understanding Student Behavior and Systemic Issues32:54 - The Importance of Collaborative Change in Education38:22 - Empowering Change in Educationhttps://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Kids-Who-Arent-Okay/Ross-W-Greene/9781668203903🔥 Discover more about Education on Fire, get a FREE pdf of 10 guest resources.https://www.educationonfire.com🔥 Support the show – Buy me a coffee, Merch and Sponsorship Opportunitieshttps://www.educationonfire.com/support#EducationOnFireShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)Their Primary First Journal: https://www.educationonfire.com/nape2026 ConferenceKeynote : Reading for Pleasure – Dr Roger McDonaldWorkshops focusing on National Year of Reading : Writing, TESOL, Oracy, Drama and Story Telling, Poetryhttps://educationonfire.com/reading

In this solo reflective episode, host Mark Taylor wraps up the first part of the Ger Graus Gets Gritty season by doing something personal — instead of a straightforward summary, he weaves the season's key themes through the story of his own life in music. From a secondary school wind band to 30 years as a professional musician and music educator, Mark explores how opportunity, community, practice, and personalised learning shaped his path. He draws on insights from his conversations with Ger Graus to reflect on what great education looks like — and what's at risk when funding, trust, and time are taken away. A heartfelt and thought-provoking listen for anyone who believes in the transformative power of education.1. Children can only aspire to what they know exists Exposure is everything. Mark's entire music career began because a school programme placed an instrument in his hands. Without that structured opportunity, he simply wouldn't have known it was possible. Educators and systems have a responsibility to show children what the world contains.2. The task is not to make the impossible possible — but to make the possible attainable Big dreams don't require giant leaps. What they require is a visible next step. Mark's path grew one rung at a time: junior band → senior band → county ensemble → music college → profession. Clear, accessible stepping stones are what turn potential into reality.3. Deep practice builds something you can rely on under pressure When Mark performed his first brass band drum solo, it went well not because of talent — but because he'd practised so thoroughly it was in his muscle memory. Real mastery means the skill holds even when nerves are high. This applies far beyond music.4. Community makes the individual possible Behind every successful learner is a network of people: a visionary head teacher, an encouraging music teacher, parents organising lifts, peers in an ensemble. Mark's journey wasn't a solo performance — it was a collective effort. Nurturing that ecosystem around a child matters as much as the teaching itself.5. Wellbeing isn't a bolt-on — it's what happens when children are fully themselves Rather than offering mindfulness classes as a fix for an overburdened curriculum, Mark argues that real wellbeing comes from giving children time to pursue what lights them up. Meaningful, deep engagement with something they love is the wellbeing strategy.🔥 Discover more about Education on Fire, get a FREE pdf of 10 guest resources and be part of our season finale with Ger.https://www.educationonfire.com🔥 Support the show – Buy me a coffee, Merch and Sponsorship Opportunitieshttps://www.educationonfire.com/support#EducationOnFireShow Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE)Their Primary First Journal: https://www.educationonfire.com/nape

This week I used AI to summarize the 7 episodes I have recorded with Prof Dr Ger Graus OBE about his book Through a Different Lens: Lessons from a Life in Education. The aim was to give you a short (22 mins) overview of the themes we have discussed in a different way.I used the transcripts from all 7 episodes to create a summary document in Claude which I then imported to NotebookLM that in turn created a conversation between 2 AI voices.Link to the GGGG series audio playlist:https://player.captivate.fm/collection/54f98b13-e7b7-4c0e-bb3b-bc3b54a3c2aeLink to the GGGG series video playlist:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLy3hA_bI5MImKV4GN5-ZyRCOa2PVe9ysU&si=1o78GkM1erluHakphttps://www.gergraus.comGet the book – Through a Different Lens: Lessons from a Life in Education🔥 Discover more about Education on Fire, get a FREE pdf of 10 guest resources and be part of our season finale with Ger.https://www.educationonfire.com🔥 Support the show – Buy me a coffee, Merch and Sponsorship Opportunitieshttps://www.educationonfire.com/support#EducationOnFire