Eight Months Sleeping Rough | Chris Vagg and Emma, Pass It On Clothing
<p><strong>This episode contains lived-experience discussion of homelessness and sleeping rough, coming out as trans, family rejection, suicidal thoughts, self-harm, substance use and getting sober, a mental-health unit admission, violence, PTSD and an unnoticed death in public, and includes strong language.</strong></p><p>Kate DeAraugo and Claudia Coy are joined by Chris Vagg, the founder of Pass It On Clothing, and Emma, who spent eight to nine months sleeping rough on Sydney's streets before building a different life. Kate knew Chris years ago, and when they reconnected she found he'd changed direction completely.</p><p>Chris tells how Pass It On began when his partner cleared out his wardrobe, and how one question he asked Emma, in her Eels jersey at Martin Place, made her think. He explains why the only difference between us and someone experiencing homelessness is a key to a safe place at night, why saying hello can make someone feel human instead of like street furniture, and why, when you're homeless, you deserve the best, not the worst.</p><p>Emma tells her story in her own words: coming out as trans to her dad and being told to get out, losing her job while she was sleeping in her car, and sleeping rough at Parramatta, where people poured beer on her. She explains why people on the street sleep through the day, why she still can't sleep under a sheet, and the kindness she still remembers, including a stranger who left $20 beside her and one day sat with her for two hours without saying a word.</p><p>Then the way out: finding community, getting sober, a counsellor who'd been homeless herself, the speech that made her decide to change, a job selling cars, and the day she and her fiancée moved in and closed the door. Kate honours Emma's trans journey, Chris makes the case for giving cash and choice and says crisis can't wait until tomorrow, and Emma tells Little Em what she'd want her to know: take your time.</p><p><strong>Huge thanks to Chris Vagg and Emma for joining us.</strong><br>Follow Pass It On Clothing:<br>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/passitonclothing/">@passitonclothing</a><br><a href="https://passitonclothing.com.au">passitonclothing.com.au</a></p><p>Season 5 is presented by <strong>Aurora Healthcare</strong>.<br><a href="https://aurorahealth.com.au">aurorahealth.com.au</a></p><p>If this brings anything up for you:<br>Lifeline (24/7 crisis support): 13 11 14<br>QLife (LGBTIQ+ peer support): 1800 184 527<br>Link2home (NSW homelessness help, 24/7): 1800 152 152</p>