Ep 180: Trump v Harris Debate and Winter Fuel Row

It was always going to be a long episode, because let's face facts... You can't cover the dawn of a new fascism in half an hour.Jemma and Marina get straight into it - and there's absolutely no shying away from the fact that not only did Trump win, but he won 'bigly'. The Trawl ladies share their experience of the election night, and how a party which started out hopeful and jubilant ended up being anything but. There's a period of reflection on how so many could get the result so wrong and an incredible clip from Jon Stewart that highlights how maybe we know nothing at all. They also share the raw emotion they felt, how they coped with the news and how they try to make sense of the world around them. There are some moments of lightness where the dominance of US politics on the rest of the world is discussed - like why the hell should we care about Maricopa County (?) and a musical interlude that reflects exactly how so many of us will be feeling. Cautiously, Jemma and Marina look ahead to what may be coming down the tracks as the first convicted felon becomes president and what this means for all those who will be directly and indirectly affected - whether they knew it or not. Thank you for sharing and do tweet us @MarinaPurkiss @jemmaforte @TheTrawlPodcastPatreonhttps://patreon.com/TheTrawlPodcastYoutubehttps://www.youtube.com/@TheTrawlTwitterhttps://twitter.com/TheTrawlPodcastCreated and Produced by Jemma Forte & Marina PurkissEdited by Max Carrey

Prior to this episode, Jemma had mainly associated the word 'Duchy' with Musical Youth, the band from the 80's who used to pass it on the left hand side. Since delving into the C4 Dispatches 'The King, The Prince and Their Secret Millions' she's had to catch up pretty quickly. Marina feels a mixture of vindicated and furious and neither of the Trawl ladies can get their heads around charging high rents to charities you're patrons of, owning sea-beds and being an advocate for the climate issues when your own properties aren't insulated properly. There's a lot to discuss. After hearing a vintage clip of Robert Smith, lead singer of The Cure, Marina's a huge fan..Larry and Paul serve up a wonderful pudding. Enjoy! Thank you for sharing and do tweet us @MarinaPurkiss @jemmaforte @TheTrawlPodcastPatreonhttps://patreon.com/TheTrawlPodcastYoutubehttps://www.youtube.com/@TheTrawlTwitterhttps://twitter.com/TheTrawlPodcastCreated and Produced by Jemma Forte & Marina PurkissEdited by Max Carrey

Recorded pre US election, this episode begins with tributes to two greats who died this week. Music producer, Quincy Jones and comedian, Janey Godley, who famously detested Trump. There is a wonderful clip made by BBC Scotland News which encapsulates her beautifully. Quincy Jones is 'pudding' and we learn what the greatest advice he ever heard was. The main focus of this episode is the latest anointing of a new Tory leader. Kemi Badenoch has beaten Robert Jenrick and is the first black woman in the role. Jemma and Marina are interested to find out what a Nigerian politics show are making of it. Meanwhile, Badenoch isn't exactly covering herself with glory on the Laura Kuenssberg show. Partygate? Overblown. Really?As for her cabinet, the words 'barrel' and 'scraping' spring to mind. Thank you for sharing and do tweet us @MarinaPurkiss @jemmaforte @TheTrawlPodcastPatreonhttps://patreon.com/TheTrawlPodcastYoutubehttps://www.youtube.com/@TheTrawlTwitterhttps://twitter.com/TheTrawlPodcastCreated and Produced by Jemma Forte & Marina PurkissEdited by Max Carrey

It's Halloween week and the prospect of Trump getting in is certainly spooking Jemma and Marina. The floods in Spain are pretty damn terrifying too, as is the news from other parts of the world, including of course, the situation in the Middle East. However, the Trawl ladies are not ones for sticking their hands in the sand or their fingers in their ears though are still able to laugh about a few things, including what Jemma is reminded of every time she hears the words 'carbon capture.' Of course there is plenty of budget chat, which might not get everyone going but certainly enthralls Beth Rigby. So much so that there ends up following some quite bizarre political entendres. Then, find out what Marina and Jemma make of the main talking points of Rachel Reeves' first budget and of course hear some interesting tweets. Though perhaps avoid Liz Truss' riveting analysis if you can, although Jacob Rees Mogg was delighted to have the economy wrecking former PM on his show to rake it all over and to pontificate. Cool. This episode contains some excellent under rated tweets, a Trump themed pudding and the type of political analysis you're incredibly unlikely to hear anywhere else. Enjoy! Thank you for sharing and do tweet us @MarinaPurkiss @jemmaforte @TheTrawlPodcastPatreonhttps://patreon.com/TheTrawlPodcastYoutubehttps://www.youtube.com/@TheTrawlTwitterhttps://twitter.com/TheTrawlPodcastCreated and Produced by Jemma Forte & Marina PurkissEdited by Max Carrey

It's tough consuming the news at the moment, which is why positive news stories should be celebrated - like Tommy Robinson being sentenced to 18 months in prison. Wahey!But all is not so joyous over in The US, in fact, it's pretty terrifying following Trump's latest rally in Madison Square Garden which included a speech so grotesque, that it convinced Ricky Martin and JLo to publicly endorse the opposition, and could cost the Trump campaign dearly. Jemma and Marina discuss what it is that billionaires like Musk are searching for and how others, specifically Bezos, are choosing to protect their own vested interests as opposed to doing what is right. Still on the US, Marina shares an anecdote from a discussion with her brother-in-law that got her triggered and then it's onto a clip from pro-Trump agitator Tucker Carlson that will likely trigger you all - apologies in advance. With too much US drama dominating the episode, Jemma goes rogue with some off-piste underrated tweets to make you smile topped off with pudding from The Marsh Family: their very own US-election inspired song named, Bohemiam Trumpsody. Thank you for sharing and do tweet us @MarinaPurkiss @jemmaforte @TheTrawlPodcastPatreonhttps://patreon.com/TheTrawlPodcastYoutubehttps://www.youtube.com/@TheTrawlTwitterhttps://twitter.com/TheTrawlPodcastCreated and Produced by Jemma Forte & Marina PurkissEdited by Max Carrey

It's not everyday that the King gets heckled, but when he and Camilla turned up to Parliament House in Canberra, that's precisely what happened - with the twist being that the heckler was elected to their position, but the hecklee was not!Then it's onto the tragic news of One Direction star, Liam Payne's passing. Jemma and Marina discuss the impact of so much fame so young and share personal stories of where they've witnessed fame not being all it's cracked up to be. Then it's onto someone who wasn't handling the tragic news as sensitively, and that's Ben Leo from GB News. And you know it was bad when his co-host Nana Akua managed to interject and appear to hold the moral high ground.Next up is the update on ever tinier Little England with a right-leaning (and despairingly even left-leaning) media who seem intent on making mountains out of molehills, all while the Tory leadership race between Badenoch and Jenrick limps on - and then there's that weird AF tweet from Sky' Kay Burley about David Cameron. Pass the vom bag. Thank you for sharing and do tweet us @MarinaPurkiss @jemmaforte @TheTrawlPodcastPatreonhttps://patreon.com/TheTrawlPodcastYoutubehttps://www.youtube.com/@TheTrawlTwitterhttps://twitter.com/TheTrawlPodcastCreated and Produced by Jemma Forte & Marina PurkissEdited by Max Carrey

Johnson has been busy promoting his latest tome so the Trawl ladies thought they’d give you an update on how it’s doing. Then, Jemma and Marina are astounded by the flagrant voter manipulation which is occurring in the States. There’s a clip you’ll hardly believe. Brexit certainly wasn’t the only moment where ‘Dividing and Conquering’ was the MO. People are also divided when it comes to seeing Trump donning an apron to work in Macdonalds. On a personal note, Jemma is feeling sad about a tree. Is the pointless destroying of a healthy tree symbolic of what the world is going through? Or is she just going round the bend? Marina is on the fence. Unlike the tree because it’s been cut down. As ever there are some fabulous under rated tweets. Enjoy! Thank you for sharing and do tweet us @MarinaPurkiss @jemmaforte @TheTrawlPodcastPatreonhttps://patreon.com/TheTrawlPodcastYoutubehttps://www.youtube.com/@TheTrawlTwitterhttps://twitter.com/TheTrawlPodcastCreated and Produced by Jemma Forte & Marina PurkissEdited by Max Carrey

Jemma and Marina are thrilled to learn that comedian and writer, Rosie Jones has been a Trawler from the beginning! They discuss who her comedy heroes are, how she started in the business and why she’s finally left Twitter. With 150K followers on Instagram, Rosie has legions of fans who adore her outspoken, warm brand of humour but that doesn’t stop the trolls abusing her and attacking her for being disabled. Rosie opens up about how that feels, how she’s trying her best to represent 24% of the population and what she’s doing to encourage greater representation. A clip from the Jimmy Kimmel show of ‘celebrities read mean tweets’ reminds Rosie, Marina and Jemma that no one is safe when it comes to having a large platform!A great chat, peppered with lots of clips and a superb pudding from one of Rosie’s heroes - the incredible Victoria Wood.Thank you for sharing and do tweet us @MarinaPurkiss @jemmaforte @TheTrawlPodcastPatreonhttps://patreon.com/TheTrawlPodcastYoutubehttps://www.youtube.com/@TheTrawlTwitterhttps://twitter.com/TheTrawlPodcastCreated and Produced by Jemma Forte & Marina PurkissEdited by Max Carrey

If you’re trying to sell yourself as a progressive, forward looking potential leader of a political party, perhaps don’t take a leaf out of Robert Jenrick’s book by celebrating Thatcher’s birthday with a countdown to the cutting of a cake….Then Jemma and Marina discuss the latest Trump rally which he billed as Coachella but was more like the infamous Fyre festival due to the fact that the coaches were only booked one way. Cue MAGA chaos. There are underrated tweets and some slightly delirious chat about salad dressing. Enjoy!Thank you for sharing and do tweet us @MarinaPurkiss @jemmaforte @TheTrawlPodcastPatreonhttps://patreon.com/TheTrawlPodcastYoutubehttps://www.youtube.com/@TheTrawlTwitterhttps://twitter.com/TheTrawlPodcastCreated and Produced by Jemma Forte & Marina PurkissEdited by Max Carrey

This is not your regular Trawl. Jemma and Marina have been consumed by the horrors unfolding in Gaza, and felt compelled to talk it through. They discuss that horrifying flame-engulfed image that emerged after a hospital tent in Gaza was bombed by Israel - an image that may well become the defining image for this indelible stain in the story of humanity. His name was Shaban Ahmed Al-Dalu, and like the thousands and thousands of other innocent men, women and children caught up in this barbaric conflict, he deserved to live. Marina and Jemma discuss the failure of humanity to put a stop to this, the absence of grief from our news channels and politicians and the press coverage we're seeing that exposes the differing values placed on some lives versus others. They discuss the Labour leadership stance - or rather, their deafening lack of one, the reason so many are too afraid to speak out and why we must never forget the needless lives lost in the pursuit of revenge that will only breed more hatred and violence. Thank you for sharing and do tweet us @MarinaPurkiss @jemmaforte @TheTrawlPodcastPatreonhttps://patreon.com/TheTrawlPodcastYoutubehttps://www.youtube.com/@TheTrawlTwitterhttps://twitter.com/TheTrawlPodcastCreated and Produced by Jemma Forte & Marina PurkissEdited by Max Carrey