Grief is the New Normal Podcast: S3E24 When Your Faith Community Doesn’t Know What to Do With Your Grief, with Rev. Dr. Tammy Isaac
When Your Faith Community Doesn’t Know What to Do With Your Grief, with Rev. Dr. Tammy Isaac
When Rev. Dr. Tammy Isaac lost her father and then her mother, she was serving as an associate pastor. She needed more support than her church could give, and that made her ask a hard question: if this is how I’m being treated, how have we been treating everyone else who is grieving?
Dr. Tammy is a hospital chaplain at UTMB Health Angleton Danbury Campus, founder of Breathe Counseling Center, host of the Permission to Breathe podcast, and the author of several books on grief, faith, and healing. In this conversation with Dr. Heather Taylor, PsyD, licensed psychologist and grief specialist, she talks about faith, community, chronic pain, breathwork, and why grief is a teacher and not the villain.
What you’ll learn
Why faith communities often skip past grief to get to hope, and how that hurts grievers spiritually, emotionally, and mentally
What “let the church grieve” means: validating pain, honoring love that was lost, and making room for every emotion
How to hold grief and a strong spiritual identity together, including anger and disappointment inside a relationship with God
Why you can be grieved and relieved at the same time
How chronic pain and invisible illness bring grief for lost roles, plans, relationships, and identity
A simple breathwork approach for acute grief and anxiety that aims for neutral, not positive
What compassion for yourself looks like for Black women who are expected to push through pain in silence
Why reflecting on the past year matters before you move forward
Key concepts
Spiritual bypassing in grief: rushing to “it’ll get better” or “let go and let God” before people have had space to feel
Silent Saturday: the in-between space of mourning that faith traditions tend to skip on the way to celebration
Both/and grief: joy and sorrow, grief and relief, anger and love can all exist at once
Non-death loss: grief for health, ability, routine, relationships, and the future you expected
Invisible grief: grief you can’t see but can hear, if you’re willing to listen
Getting to neutral: using breath to calm the nervous system enough to take in hard news, without pretending things are fine
Grief integration: carrying who someone was to us forward into our story, rather than “accepting” and moving on
Timestamps
00:00 Grief New Normal Intro
00:24 Meet Dr Tammy Isaac
02:26 Her Path Into Grief Care
06:10 Hospice As Equalizer
07:15 Let The Church Grieve
13:45 Faith After Loss
18:14 Holding Grief And Joy
24:54 Chronic Pain And Grief
28:25 Chronic Pain Grief
29:45 Grief Education Books
30:46 Heart Failure Anniversary
32:46 Using Writing Gifts
34:10 Grief Integration Mindset
35:04 Personal Grief Waves
37:52 Breathwork In Practice
44:13 Neutral Not Positive
45:44 Self Compassion For Black Women
49:37 Reflecting And Visioning
51:20 Grief As A Friend
52:35 Closing And Resources
Resources mentioned
The Grief Inside the Ache: Pain Led, Grief Followed by Dr. Tammy Isaac
Collateral Beauty: A Black Woman’s Metamorphosis of Grief, Self-Love, and Healing
Let the Church Grieve
Begin Again
Permission to Breathe podcast
Breathe Counseling Center [link]
YearCompass, a free annual reflection workbook [link]
References
Romans 12:15, “Rejoice with those who rejoice; weep with those who weep”
Romans 5:3–5, suffering, perseverance, character, and hope
Hebrews 9:27
Doka, K. J. (Ed.). (1989). Disenfranchised Grief: Recognizing Hidden Sorrow. Lexington Books.
Klass, D., Silverman, P. R., & Nickman, S. L. (Eds.). (1996). Continuing Bonds: New Understandings of Grief. Taylor & Francis.
Find more at thedrheathertaylor.com. Your grief is real, it matters, and you don’t have to carry it alone.
This podcast is for education and support and is not a substitute for therapy or medical care.
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Dr. Tammy Isaac is a Spiritual Practitioner, Author, Grief Advocate, and Educator who helps individuals and communities navigate loss with clarity and spiritual grounding. She is the founder of Breathe Counseling Center, where she provides faith-informed guidance and practical tools for emotional healing. Dr. Isaac also hosts the Permission to Breathe Podcast, a space created to help listeners slow down, breathe, and explore the many layers of grief. She serves as a Chaplain at UTMB Health Angleton Danbury Campus, offering spiritual care to patients, families, and staff. Her work spans conference presentations, grief education, and community outreach. Dr. Isaac is the author of several books, including Collateral Beauty: A Black Woman’s Metamorphosis of Grief, Self-Love, and Healing, Let the Church Grieve, Begin Again, and her newest work, The Grief Inside the Ache. Dr. Isaac has been featured in several news articles highlighting her leadership in grief support and emotional wellness. She was a featured author at the Grieftastic Brunch and Book Fair hosted by Meghan Riordan-Jarvis, where she connected with leaders and advocates in the field of grief, death, and dying. She is also a 2026 nominee for the ADEC Community Educator Award, recognizing her contributions to grief education and community engagement. Her latest projects include resource saddle-stitch booklets focused on grief and emotional healing for nurses, first responders, breast cancer survivors, perinatal bereavement, family bereavement, and grief in the workplace.
Connect with Dr. Isaac:
Instagram: @drtammyisaac
Facebook: @drtammyisaac
LinkedIn: Dr. Tammy Isaac
Podcast: Permission to Breathe Podcast on Apple and Spotify
Website: www.breathegriefcounseling.com
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Grief is not a problem to solve. It is a human experience to move through, and most of us were never taught how.
Grief is the New Normal is hosted by Dr. Heather Taylor, licensed psychologist and grief specialist with over a decade of experience in grief, trauma, and reproductive psychology. This show exists to change the conversation around loss by expanding what grief looks like, who it belongs to, and what it actually means to integrate it into your life.
Whether you're grieving a death, a diagnosis, a relationship, an identity shift, or the world as you knew it, your grief is real, it deserves space, and you are not behind. And if you're a clinician, coach, or helper carrying your own grief while holding space for others, this show was built for you too.
Dr. Taylor brings research-informed frameworks, honest clinical perspective, and the STAY framework, a grief-informed approach to living with loss that goes far beyond the five stages. Expect nuance, depth, and conversations that take grief seriously.
No toxic positivity. No fixing. Just honest conversation, real validation, and a community built around grief literacy, disenfranchised grief, anticipatory grief, collective grief, and the full spectrum of human loss.
grief support podcast · disenfranchised grief · anticipatory grief · grief after loss · grief for clinicians · grief-informed care · grief literacy · coping with grief · grief and identity · mental health and grief · reproductive grief · pet loss grief · collective trauma and grief · grief integration · STAY framework
New episodes dropping regularly
Connect with Dr. Heather Taylor:
Website: griefisthenewnormal.com
Instagram: @dr.heathertaylor
Substack: How We STAY with Grief https://drheathertaylor.substack.com/
Newsletter: Bridging the Grief Gap on LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/in/heather-taylor-psyd-licensed-psychologist/
Journal: Authentically Unapologetic, available on Amazon https://a.co/d/0dM0DloC
Contact: [email protected]
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