How To Train Your Dragon

This is not the story of the Gladiator II that you will see in cinemas. This is the story of the time Russell Crowe went rogue and commissioned a script for a Gladiator sequel where Maximus returns from the dead to save the early Christian Church from annihilation and is cursed by the gods to live forever. FOGHORN: Sound of Freedom is real bad y'all! If you want to support the show, we now have a Patreon! You can subscribe for bonus episodes, plug-free versions of the show and my eternal love and gratitude. Just don't do it through the iOS app. You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky. If you want to get in touch, you can email [email protected] CLIPS USED:  Gladiator (dir. Ridley Scott, 2000) Gladiator: Deleted Scenes with Commentary from Ridley Scott (Dreamworks) Gladiator: Behind the Scenes (Dreamworks) WTF With Marc Maron: Nick Cave Happy Sad Confused: Russell Crowe  Ridley Scott Talks “Gladiator 2” by Nick Cave MUSIC Nick Cave and Warren Ellis - The Proposition #3 Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand Hans Zimmer & Lisa Gerrad - Barbarian Horde   Harry Gregson-Williams - Logan Through Time “Leaving Home”, “Deadly Roulette”, “Morgana Rides”, “Crossing the Chasm”, “Devastation and Revenge”, “Crypto”, “Shadowlands 1- Horizon”, “Gloom Horizon” “Black Vortex”, “Intrepid”, “Cambodian Odyssey”, “Lost Time”, “Ever Mindful”, “Darkling”, “Rynos”, “Synapse”, “Divertisment”, “Peaceful Desolation” & “Unanswered Questions” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0  License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ “Suspended Animation” & “Synapse” by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

Francis Ford Coppola is undeniably one of the greatest filmmakers who has ever lived. Megalopolis is the film he has been chasing for nearly 40 years. But when the posters declare “From The Man Who Brought You The Godfather and Apocalypse Now”, they should probably add “And Live Cinema and Tetro.” CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses fictional depictions of sexual assault and sexual violence from 24: 35 to 27:15, and allegations of inappropriate on-set behaviour from 1:06:30 - 1:07:30 If you want to support the show, we now have a ⁠Patreon⁠! You can subscribe for bonus episodes, plug-free versions of the show and also my upcoming unhinged rant about BBC America's The Watch. You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky. If you want to get in touch, you can email [email protected] CLIPS USED:  Megalopolis (dir. Francis Ford Coppola, 2024) Megalopolis Trailers (Lionsgate) Francis Ford Coppola Predicting The Future At 1979 Oscars  Adam Driver Talks 65, Fighting Dinosaurs, and Filming Francis Ford Coppola's Megalopolis (Collider) MUSIC “As I Figure”, “Egmont Overture”, “Crypto”, “In The Hall Of The Mountain King”, “Dirt Rhodes”, “Vanishing”, “Dark Times”, “Morgana Rides” “Odyssey”, “That Zen Moment”, “Chill Wave”, “On The Cool Side”, “Screen Saver”, “Metaphysik”, “Groove Grove”, “Fairytale Waltz”, “Divertisment”, “Peaceful Desolation” & “Unanswered Questions” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0  License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ “Suspended Animation” & “Synapse” by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com PM Music: Ride of the Valkyries, Winter Licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 

Zack Snyder has a reputation as a Director’s Cut director: but what does that actually mean? And what happens when he’s given the chance to simultaneously make a Directors Cut and a ‘theatrical’ cut that will never go to theatres? CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses fictional depictions of sexual assault and sexual violence from 44:55 - 47:28 If you want to support the show, we now have a Patreon! You can subscribe for bonus episodes, plug-free versions of the show and also to give me the ability to see Megalopolis on the big big screen. You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky. If you want to get in touch, you can email [email protected] CLIPS USED:  Rebel Moon Part One - A Child of Fire (dir. Zack Snyder, 2023) Rebel Moon Part Two - The Scargiver (dir. Zack Snyder, 2024) Rebel Moon Chapter One - Chalice of Blood (dir. Zack Snyder, 2024) Rebel Moon Chapter Two - Curse of Forgiveness (dir. Zack Snyder, 2024) Rebel Moon: Part One - A Child of Fire with Zack Snyder and Louis Leterrier (The Director’s Cut Podcast Ep. 464) Zack Snyder 😜 Life is Short with Justin Long The Joe Rogan Experience 2114 - Zack Snyder Happy Sad Confused: Zack Snyder Vol II How the Guys of Rebel Moon Got Ripped MUSIC: “Cantina Band” - John Williams “Niamos (Morlana Club Mix)” - Nicholas Britell “Whitsun Oath” - Tom Holkenborg “The Land We Breathe” - Tom Holkenborg “Harvesting” - Fumio Hayasaka “Industrial Cinematic”, “Odyssey”, “Hyperfun”, “Protofunk”, “Hitman”, “Hiding Your Reality”, “The Descent”, “The Path of the Goblin King V2”, “Thinking Music”, “Hit the Streets”, “Death of Kings”, “Neo Western”, “Devastation and Revenge”, “Dark Times”, “Groove Grove”, “Screensaver”, “StyleFunk”, “Covert Affairs”, “Minima”, “Ever Mindful”, “Enter the Maze”, “Echoes of Time V2”, “Sunset at Glenorm”, “Bicycle”, “Immersed” & “On the Shore” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0  License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ “Suspended Animation” & “VHS Dreams” by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

Zack Snyder first pitched the idea Seven Samurai in Space when he was in college. In 2012, he pitched it to Kathleen Kennedy as his way of “fixing” Star Wars. In 2023, Rebel Moon: Part One - A Child of Fire was released on Netflix. This is the story of how one idea becomes ten hours worth of movie. CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses suicide at 16:10. There is also discussion of fictional depictions of sexual assault and sexual violence at 6:55 - 7:04, 15:08 - 15:27, 28:58 - 29:06, 32:05 - 33:45, 37:25 - 38:23 If you want to support the show, we now have a Patreon! You can subscribe for bonus episodes, plug-free versions of the show and my undying love and gratitude. Please do it! I need to buy so many Rebel Moon art books. You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky. If you want to get in touch, you can email [email protected] CLIPS USED:  Rebel Moon Part One - A Child of Fire (dir. Zack Snyder, 2023) Rebel Moon: Part One - A Child of Fire with Zack Snyder and Louis Leterrier (The Director’s Cut Podcast Ep. 464) Zack Snyder 😜 Life is Short with Justin Long The Joe Rogan Experience 2114 - Zack Snyder Zack Snyder on How Rebel Moon Is a Rebellion 30 Years in the Making (Tudum) MUSIC: “Crypto”, “Industrial Cinematic”, “Virtutes Instrumenti”, “Oppressive Gloom”, “Protofunk”, “Morgana Rides”, “Rollin at 5”, “Screen Saver”, “Funkorama”, “Olde Timey”, “As I Figure”, “Tenebrous Brothers Carnival - Intermission”, “Spy Glass”, “Loopster”, “Constancy Part 3”, “Lithium”, “Enter The Maze”, “Chill Wave”, “Simplex”, “Floating Cities”, “Leaving Home”, “The Chamber”, “Heart of Nowhere”, “Ever Mindful”, “Lost Time”, “Deep Haze” & “Magic Forest” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0  License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ “Suspended Animation” & "Space Race”, by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

At World’s End was once the most expensive movie ever made. But at what cost? You can follow the show on Twitter (@goingrogue_pod), Instagram (@goingrogue_podcast), or tumblr or bluesy (@goingroguepod) or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky. If you want to get in touch, you can email [email protected] CLIPS USED: Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (Walt Disney Studios) Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End Deleted Scenes Enter the Maelstrom Anatomy of a Maelstom Rango, with Director Gore Verbinski (DP 30) GORE VERBINSKI Backstage at Field Trip to the Movies (Santa Barbara Middle School Teen Press) Empire Podcast 54: Danny Boyle, Jonathon Pryce Hans Zimmer: Making of Pirates of the Caribbean Scores Gore Verbinski on Steven Spielberg, Donald Trump and A Cure For Wellness (Joe.ie) MUSIC: Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End Score Excerpts: - The Green Flash  - One Day  - Trying to Get Lost  - Souls At Sea  - At Davy Jones’ Command  - Finale (William Tell Overture)   - Parlay - Escape / Norrington Dies - Hoist the Colours Declaration - The Wedding - Who’s Captain/Below Deck "Leaving Home", "Divertissement", "Industrial Cinematic", "Halls of the Undead", "Scissors", "Echoes of Time v2", "Showdown", "Morgana Rides", "Simplex", "Monkeys Spinning Monkeys", "Magic Forest", "Oppressive Gloom", "Metaphysik", "Thinking Music", "Screen Saver", "Vanishing", "Unanswered Questions", "I Can Feel It Coming", The Snow Queen", The Chamber", "Deep Haze", "Danse Macabre", "Killers", "Bleeping Demo", "Bicycle", "Hiding Your Reality", "Enter The Maze", "Despair and Triumph", "Decline", "Floating Cities" & “Black Vortex”, Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ “The Buccaneer’s Haul” and “Space Race” by Shane Ivers - 

Almost everything that could go wrong went wrong on Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest. I still really like it. You can follow the show on Twitter (@goingrogue_pod), Instagram (@goingrogue_podcast), or tumblr or bluesy (@goingroguepod) or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky. If you want to get in touch, you can email [email protected] CLIPS USED: Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (Walt Disney Studios) Writers Audio Commentaries for Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest According to Plan: The Harrowing And True Story of Dead Man's Chest Charting The Return Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest Deleted Scenes A Reeltime Conversation with Film Editor Craig Wood Team Deakins Episode 88 - John Knoll Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End Masters of Design: Crash McCreary -  The Cursed Crew Bill Nighy Breaks Down His Career, from 'Harry Potter' to 'Pirates of the Caribbean’ (Vanity Fair) Gore Verbinski Interview (Reba Merill) MUSIC: Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest Score Excerpts:  - Jack Sparrow  - Davy Jones  - The Wedding / Beckett's Arrival  - Abandon Ship  - Row to Tia Dalma's  - Davy Jones Plays His Organ  - Jack Sparrow's Theme (Demo)  “Black Vortex”, “Bleeping Demo”, “Hiding Your Reality”, “Crypto”, “Oppressive Gloom”, “The Chamber”, “Kumasi Grove”, “Bossa Antigua”, “Thinking Music”, “Floating Cities”, “Firesong” “Morgana Rides”, “Lost Frontier”, “Tenebrous Brothers Carnival - Intermission”, “Nonstop”, “Monkeys Spinning Monkeys”, “Danse Macabre”, “ZigZag”, “Stormfront”, “I Can Feel It Coming”, “Leaving Home”, “Screen Saver”, “Showdown”, “Magic Forest” & “Deep Haze” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ “The Buccaneer’s Haul” and “Synapse” by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl has gotta be the only good film to come out of IP mining. I cannot recommend Dan Golding’s video essay A Theory of Film Music enough, and also highly recommend his book Star Wars After Lucas (he also has a great talk on Nostalgia Piano, but I think that one might have just been a conference exclusive) You can follow the show on Twitter (@goingrogue_pod), Instagram (@goingrogue_podcast), or Tumblr or Bluesky (@goingroguepod) or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky. If you want to get in touch, you can email [email protected] CLIPS USED: Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (Walt Disney Studios) Audio Commentaries for Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl   - Writers Commentary  - Gore Verbinski and Johnny Depp Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl — The Making Of An Epic At Sea Dan Golding: A Theory of Film Music All Access: Klaus Badelt (Film.Music.Media) Hans Zimmer: Making of Pirates of Caribbean Soundtracks Becoming Captain Jack Composer Ramin Djawadi on working with Hans Zimmer and Klaus Badelt (TelevisionAcademy.com Interviews) Interviewing Stuart Beattie, screenwriter of Pirates of the Caribbean & Collateral (Syd Field - The Visual Art of Storytelling) Screenwriter Jay Wolpert on creating tension in action scripts & game shows (WGA West) MUSIC: Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl Score Excerpts:  Fogbound  Barbossa Is Hungry  Moonlight Serenade   One Last Shot  He’s A Pirate  Jack’s Escape  4:56AM Demo Suite Hans Zimmer Score Excerpts:  Muppet Treasure Island: Treasure Island  The Rock: Main Theme  Gladiator: Barbarian Hoarde  The Ring: Closing Credits Pirates of the Caribbean Suite (Live) “Waltz: Tchaikovsky Op. 40”, “Adventures in Adventureland”, “Captain Scurvy”, “Division”, “In The Hall Of The Mountain King”, “Crossing the Chasm”, “Cut Trance”, “Eternal Terminal”, “Expeditionary”, “In The Path of The Goblin King”, In The Path of The Goblin King v2” “Dirt Rhodes”, “Loopster”, “Peaceful Desolation”, “Crypto”, “Rising”, “Vibing Over Venus”, “Industrial Cinematic”, “Kusami Groove Flugelhorn”, “Celtic Impulse”, “Unanswered Questions”, “Danse Macbre”, “Gloom Horizon”, “Screen Saver”, “Thinking Music”, “Enter The Maze”, “Morgana Rides”, “Odyssey”, “Lost Frontier”, “Ever Mindful” & “Deep Haze” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ “The Buccaneer’s Haul” by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

Nottingham was a high concept spec script that reimagined the Robin Hood legend from the perspective of the Sheriff of Nottingham that asked whether we should follow the law, or our heroes. Robin Hood is a movie where Robin Hood does not rob from the rich or give to the poor, but his dad did write the Magna Carta. This is the story of how Nottingham became Robin Hood. You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky. If you want to get in touch, you can email [email protected] CLIPS USED:  Rise and Rise Again: Making Ridley Scott’s Robin Hood PODDYWOOD: Cyrus Voris & Ethan Reiff (Part 3) RUSSELL CROWE Interview for Robin Hood (BlackTree TV) Russell Crowe Talks Robin Hood (IGN) Russell Crowe Reunited With His ‘Gladiator’ Horse (The Late Show) Napoleon (dir. Ridley Scott, 2023) Robin Hood (dir. Ridley Scott, 2010) The Castle (dir. Rob Sitch, 1997) Democracy Manifest  MUSIC: “Loopster”, “The Descent”, “Thinking Music”, “Five Armies”, “Oppressive Gloom”, “Virtutes Instrumenti”, “Minstrel Guild”, “Stormfront”, “Eternal Terminal”, “Night Vigil”, “Unanswered Questions”, “Volatile Reaction”, “Tenebrous Brothers Carnival - Intermission”, “Peaceful Desolation”, “Midnight Tale”, “Odyssey”, “Protofunk”, “Raw”, “Morgana Rides”, “The Path of the Goblin King”, “Floating Cities”, “Hiding Your Reality”, “Black Vortex”, “Minima”, “Decline”, “Clean Soul”, “Anguish” & “Magic Forest” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0  License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ “Suspended Animation”, "Space Race", "Bossy Boots", "Synapse" & "Through the Woods" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

This is not the first podcast about Don’t Worry Darling. But this is one of the few that discusses the film, and its transformation from a Black Mirror-esque spec script written by Dick Van Dyke’s grandsons into a beautiful but poorly paced film with a confusing message. And somehow, between those two, there was a solid, compelling script. But it was paired with a directorial intention that was fundamentally opposed to the story, and the film began to unravel from there. CONTENT WARNING: this episode involves discussion of sexual assault, sexual violence, suicide and misogyny. You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky. If you want to get in touch, you can email [email protected] CLIPS: Don’t Worry Darling (New Line Cinema, 2022) The Directors Cut Podcast: Don’t Worry Darling with Olivia Wilde and Reed Morano  The Late Show with Stephen Colbert Script to Screen: Booksmart with Katie Silberman (screenwriter) Olivia Wilde & Katie Silberman: Don’t Worry Darling Q&A With Pete Hammond MUSIC: "Slow Burn", "Crinoline Dreams", "The Dread", "In Your Arms", "Thinking Music", "Echoes of Time V2", "Volatile Reaction", "Metaphysik", "Bossa Antigua", "Bleeping Demo", "Screen Saver", "Crypto", "Night In Venice", "Samba Isobel", "Unseen Horrors", "Lobby Time", "Shadowlands 1: Horizon", "Penumbra", "Leaving Home", "Floating Cities", "Expeditionary", "On The Cool Side", "Walking Along", "Clean Soul", "Vibing Over Venus", "This House", "Sunset Over Glengorm", "Black Vortex", & "Scissors" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0  License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ "Suspended Animation" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

In October 2008, Chris Sanders was asked to take over a troublesome film with a March 2010 release date. He immediately called his old co-director Dean Deblois. Somehow, despite everything we've ever discussed on this podcast, the film they made is good. How To Train Your Dragon is the opposite of almost every film we've covered before - an instant classic that pushed the animation form and made bold calls on a tight deadline, and actually stuck the landing. But to understand how it pulled that off, we need to cover early Dreamworks, renaissance Disney, and a little picture book called The Big Bear Aircraft Company. You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky. If you want to get in touch, you can email [email protected] CLIPS: The Story Room: The Making of Lilo and Stitch The Making of How To Train Your Dragon: Going Into The Story Chris Sanders - Director of How to Train Your Dragon + Lilo & Stitch Cartoons!!! (Directing Animation Podcast #39) Animation Part 3 with Dean Deblois (Team Deakins Podcast Episode 12) All Star - Smashmouth Forbidden Friendship - John Powell (How To Train Your Dragon) Coming Back Around - John Powell (How To Train Your Dragon) Fairytale - Harry Gregson-Williams and John Powell (Shrek) Short Hair - Jerry Goldsmith (Mulan) Your Father Would Be Proud - Michael Giacchino (Rogue One) A Place in The Sky - Hans Zimmer (The Creator) MUSIC: "Bicycle", "Adventures in Adventureland", "Hard Boiled", "Waltz - Tschikovsky Op. 40", "Chill Wave", "Loopster", "Cherry Blossom", "Whimsey Groove", "Odyssey", "Quirky Dog", "Screen Saver", "Crypto", "Nonstop", "Ascending The Vale", "Enter The Maze", "Tenebrous Bros Carnival - Intermission", "Energizing", "Divertissement", "Leaving Home", "Hall of the Mountain King", "Oppressive Gloom", "Magic Scout - Farmhouse", "Monkeys Spinning Monkeys", "Prelude & Action", "Concentration", "Ever Mindful" & "Tempting Secrets" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ "Suspended Animation" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com