Giant Steps

Saunder and Leo attended their freshman year at RISD together, they reunite in this gripping episode of the podcast to discuss Minimalism v Maximalism, Toilets v Running and what it's like to design the shoes you are wearing.

Sondre Lerche is a LA-based Norwegian singer/songwriter, composer and artist. His debut album Faces Down was one of Rolling Stone Magazine's Best Albums of 2002. His latest and most ambitious release, Patience, was recently described as "a musical masterpiece" by Atwood Magazine. He is currently in Covid-exile in his hometown of Bergen.

Dr. Karen Postal is a past president of the American Academy of Clinical Neuropsychology and a clinical instructor at Harvard Medical school. Her research focuses on improving communication about neuroscience with patients and the general public. She is the author of Feedback That Sticks:  The Art of Communicating Neuropsychological Assessment Results and most recently, Testimony That Sticks: The Art of Communicating Psychology and Neuropsychology to Jurors. Dr. Postal has a private practice dedicated to helping people think better in school, at work, and throughout later life. The real bio:Karen Postal is a bit of a workaholic.  She has two teenage sons and a 12-year-old daughter who is setting the world on fire. She loves to run and recently took up the drums. http://karenpostal.com/

Laura Jane Grace is an Author and Musician based in Chicago. She has been the lead singer and guitarist for Against Me! since 1997. They have released seven studio albums and toured extensively around the world. In 2016 Laura published a memoir entitled "Tranny: Confessions of Punk Rock's Most Infamous Anarchist Sellout". Most recently she released a solo album called "Stay Alive".

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Julian Tepper is the Author of three novels: Between The Records, Balls and Ark. As a member of the band “The Natural History” he co-wrote the song “Don’t You Ever” which was later made into a massive hit by the legendary band Spoon. He was born and raised in New York City and lives there still.BETWEEN THE RECORDS, A NOVEL BY JULIAN TEPPERTHE PEOPLE THAT I MEET LP - THE NATURAL HISTORY (SIGNED LIMITED EDITION VINYL REISSUE WITH LINER NOTES BY BRITT DANIEL OF SPOON)THE DISASSOCIATION (SINGLE/EP) - JULIAN TEPPER

Antonio Campos is a filmmaker based in Brooklyn, NY. And he's runner. Subjects include disliking Tennis, the similarities between making films and running marathons and meditating in weird places.