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Pope watch: who's next up?

08/05/2025
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What's going on behind the locked doors of the Sistine Chapel this week, as the Catholic Church's cardinals meet in Rome to choose the next pope?


It's a centuries-old tradition, but this time, the college of cardinals is bigger than ever, with a growing contingent from Africa and Asia — many of them attending their first conclave ever. That means lots of different priorities, and of course the lingering question of whether to continue the liberal legacy of the late Francis, or to opt for more stability and traditionality.


Charles Collins is the managing editor of the Crux, an independent publication covering the Catholic Church. He is our guest to break it all down.


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