ANDRADE WATCH 2025 (Wrestling Soup 10.16.25)

00:20 – Andrade Watch 2025Speculation runs wild about Andrade’s absence from TV, with plenty of jokes and theories about his whereabouts and contract status.02:17 – Show Intro & Brian Alvarez DrivelAnthony officially introduces the show and shares updates from Brian Alvarez on Andrade’s situation.02:47 – Andrade WWE Non-Compete ClauseThe hosts dig into the details of WWE’s non-compete clauses, what they mean for Andrade, and how they affect wrestlers’ careers.04:04 – Wrestling News as Sports RadioA humorous comparison of wrestling news coverage to bad sports talk radio, poking fun at the rumor mill.12:30 – Unpaid Year Off?Anthony and Joe debate the fairness and legality of unpaid non-compete periods for released wrestlers.20:00 – WWE’s Global ExpansionThe conversation turns to WWE’s decision to host WrestleMania in Saudi Arabia, fan reactions, and the business behind global events.29:20 – AEW’s Training Center PlansA look at AEW’s scrapped plans for a dedicated training facility and what it means for talent development.41:20 – Seth Rollins Injury RumorsThe hosts address rumors about Seth Rollins’ injury, storyline pivots, and the blurred lines between fiction and reality in wrestling.58:30 – Media Store NostalgiaA nostalgic detour into the decline of music and media stores like Best Buy and FYE, and how the industry has changed.1:18:00 – Jericho’s Rock ‘N’ Wrestling Rager at SeaA rundown of the 2026 cruise lineup, notable guests, and what it says about the current state of wrestling.1:27:20 – Wrap-Up & ShoutoutsThe episode closes with shoutouts to listeners, Patreon supporters, and final thoughts on the week in wrestling.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/wrestling-soup--1425249/support.

0:00 – Introduction & Season RecapLuFisto opens the show, referencing the LFG finals and the end of season two.Jeff reveals that LFT season three has been renewed and discusses recent roster changes, including surprise releases.1:51 – Commercials & International BroadcastsDiscussion about WWE commercials, international viewing experiences, and background appearances by wrestlers.3:43 – Surprising Releases & Character AnalysisThe hosts analyze the release of Hayes Jameson and speculate on possible reasons (injury, personal choice, or character fit).They discuss the evolution of certain characters and the importance of unique personas in wrestling.7:16 – Men’s Finalist Rematch: Harlem Lewis vs. Drake MorrowDetailed breakdown of the rematch, including in-ring psychology, character work, and match flow.Commentary on wrestling techniques, storytelling, and the importance of intensity in high-stakes matches.19:17 – Post-Match Reflections & Character FuturesReflections on the match outcome, Shawn Michaels’ decision-making, and the future potential of both finalists.Discussion of how certain wrestlers fit into the current NXT landscape.24:00 – Shiloh Hill’s Presence & StorytellingAnalysis of Shiloh Hill’s character, his on-screen demeanor, and the importance of subtle storytelling in wrestling.26:30 – Reality of Wrestling SegmentBooker T’s segment with Harlem Lewis, emphasizing the importance of “checks and championships.”The hosts discuss the significance of wrestling culture and personal motivation.32:47 – Women’s Final: Danni  vs. P NastyIn-depth play-by-play of the women’s final, including entrances, match psychology, and key spots.Critique of match pacing, character work, and crowd engagement.46:00 – Match Analysis & Judges’ ReactionsThe hosts and coaches reflect on the strengths and weaknesses of the women’s match.Discussion of what makes a compelling wrestling character and the importance of presence and consistency.54:00 – Shiloh vs. Harlem: The Men’s FinalBreakdown of the men’s final, including entrances, crowd reactions, and in-ring storytelling.Commentary on the abrupt finish and what could have made the match more satisfying.1:10:00 – Judges’ Deliberation & Final DecisionsCoaches and Shawn Michaels deliberate on the winners, discussing criteria for selection and the unique qualities of each finalist.The hosts debate the logic behind the final choices and the importance of explaining decisions to the audience.1:20:00 – Reflections on the Show’s Format & SuggestionsSuggestions for improving the judging system, including the idea of rotating judges and more transparency in scoring.Discussion of the value of diversity and representation in wrestling.1:30:00 – Closing Thoughts & Future PlansThe hosts promote upcoming content, including a retrospective episode with Dr. Gina Posan.Final thoughts on the season, shoutouts to the wrestling community, and recommendations for the documentary “Lunatic: The Luna Vachon Story.”Social media plugs and encouragement for listener feedback.1:36:00 – OutroLuFisto and Jeff sign off, teasing one more show and thanking listeners for their support.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/wrestling-soup--1425249/support.

[00:00] Saturday Morning Wrestling & Childhood ThrowbacksJoe and Anthony kick things off talking about the weirdness (and secret perks) of watching wrestling at 8am. It’s like being a kid again, but with more coffee and less cereal.[04:00] Perth Crowd, Ticket Prices, and “Is Perth Even a Real Place?”The guys riff on WWE’s big show in Perth, the wild ticket prices, and whether anyone actually talks about Perth outside of wrestling. Spoiler: not really.[10:00] RAW vs. Crown Jewel & Seth’s “Is He Hurt or Not?” SagaThey get into the never-ending Seth Rollins injury drama, why nobody believes anything anymore, and how WWE storylines sometimes make less sense than a fever dream.[18:00] LA Knight: The Best-Looking Guy Who Can’t Catch a BreakLA Knight’s booking gets roasted. Is he an underdog? Is he a cocky heel? Why does he keep tripping over his own feet? The guys have thoughts (and jokes).[25:00] Becky Lynch, Factions, and “What Even Is This Storyline?”Becky’s name comes up, but so does the fact that half the storylines just got nuked. Expect some classic “what are they even doing?” rants.[32:00] Bailey, Lyra, and the Women’s Division: Chaos & ChemistryBailey’s new vibe, Lyra’s straight-man energy, and why the women’s division is a wild ride right now. Also, a surprising amount of talk about wrestling gear.[40:00] Referees, Announcers, and “Back in My Day…”A trip down memory lane: when refs and announcers had actual personalities, and why today’s shows could use a little more flavor (and a little less sameness).[48:00] Dominic Mysterio vs. Penta: Cheating Done RightDominic’s heel antics get a breakdown, plus a debate on whether being “too smart” is a good thing for a bad guy. Also, some love for old-school Eddie Guerrero tricks.[56:00] Rhea Ripley, Asuka, and “Why Is This So Complicated?”Rhea, Asuka, Kairi Sane, and a whole lot of chaos in the women’s title scene. The guys try to make sense of it all (and mostly just laugh about it).[1:03:00] Bronson Reed, Jimmy & Jay Uso, and Tag Team TangentsBronson Reed’s gear, Jimmy vs. Jay, and why some tag teams just feel like reheated pizza. Expect some sidebars and a few “what are they wearing?” moments.[1:10:00] Main Event: Jay Uso, LA Knight, and CM PunkThe crowd sings for Punk, LA Knight almost wins, and the guys wonder if we really need another Seth vs. Punk feud. Also: more jokes about fruit punch boxes.[1:18:00] Wrap-Up & RandomnessFinal thoughts, a few more rants, and a reminder to check out the Patreon. If you made it this far, you’re a real one.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/wrestling-soup--1425249/support.

0:25 — Official show intro: "Wrestling Soup" with Anthony Thomas and Joey Numbers.0:50 — Banter about the "Crown Jewel Post Show" and some lighthearted police siren jokes.Roman Reigns & Bronson Reed Match1:30 — Discussion about the opening match: Roman Reigns vs. Bronson Reed.3:20 — Anthony and Joe debate the match’s pacing, outcome, and the ongoing Bloodline storyline.7:00 — Reflections on the "Australian Street Fight" and how it compares to other street fights.10:00 — Commentary on the house show feel of the event and the crowd’s reaction.Women’s Crown Jewel Championship14:50 — Transition to the women’s match: Tiffany Stratton vs. Stephanie.15:50 — Analysis of the match, both hosts noting Tiffany’s regression and Stephanie’s role as the aggressor.18:00 — Discussion about Triple H’s involvement and the awkwardness of the post-match celebration.Audience & WWE Creative20:00 — Commentary on WWE’s creative direction, Triple H’s TED talk, and the challenges of keeping the product fresh.22:00 — Banter about Seth Rollins, Becky Lynch, and the need for stronger storylines and character development.John Cena vs. AJ Styles27:00 — Recap of the John Cena vs. AJ Styles match, comparing it to a "greatest hits" performance.30:00 — Reflections on the significance of AJ Styles’ and John Cena’s careers, especially for Australian fans.33:00 — Discussion of the match’s many finishers and the crowd’s reaction.Women’s Tag Team Match38:00 — Analysis of the women’s tag match: EO Sky & Rhea Ripley vs. Asuka & Kairi Sane.41:00 — Thoughts on the end of the Kabuki Warriors feud and the future direction for the women’s division.Main Event: Seth Rollins vs. Cody Rhodes44:50 — Main event discussion: Seth Rollins vs. Cody Rhodes.47:00 — Critique of the match’s length, pacing, and outcome, with both hosts feeling the wrong person won.50:00 — Reflections on the lack of crowd energy and the need for Becky Lynch at ringside.Closing Thoughts55:00 — Final thoughts on the event, best and worst matches, and the overall direction of WWE.58:20 — Outro: Thanks to listeners, Patreon plug, and sign-off.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/wrestling-soup--1425249/support.

00:00 – AEW Attendance Controversy & Ticket NumbersAnthony and Joe open with a deep dive into AEW’s reported attendance numbers, NDAs, and the ongoing debate about truth in wrestling promotion.07:30 – The Ratings Game: NXT vs. DynamiteDiscussion shifts to TV ratings, fan excuses, and the real audience size for wrestling shows.13:00 – AEW’s Place in the IndustryA critical look at AEW’s current status, company culture, and how it compares to WWE and TNA.16:30 – Crown Jewel Preview & Early Morning WrestlingThe hosts preview WWE’s Crown Jewel event, discuss the challenges of international shows, and share thoughts on watching wrestling at odd hours.21:00 – Match-by-Match Crown Jewel PredictionsDetailed breakdowns and predictions for Roman Reigns vs. Bronson Reed, Rhea Ripley & IYO SKY vs. Asuka & Kairi Sane, and more.32:00 – Women’s Division: Growth, Stagnation, and StorylinesA candid discussion about the women’s division, character development, and the challenges facing stars like Tiffany Stratton and Charlotte Flair.45:00 – WWE Ticket Prices & The “Family Company” DebateAnthony and Joe debate WWE’s claim of being family-friendly in light of rising ticket and merchandise prices.54:00 – Mental Health in Wrestling: Big E’s StoryA heartfelt segment on Big E’s mental health journey, therapy, and the importance of openness in the wrestling community.1:05:00 – Contract News & Industry MovesUpdates on recent contract renewals, departures, and the realities of career moves in wrestling.1:15:00 – Final Thoughts & What’s NextThe hosts wrap up with shoutouts, upcoming show plugs, and a reminder to join them for more wrestling talk.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/wrestling-soup--1425249/support.

00:00 – Kevin Nash & Wrestling RoyaltiesAnthony and Joe open with a discussion about Kevin Nash’s royalty check woes, the business of wrestling merchandise, and how the TKO sale has impacted payouts for legends and stockholders.03:30 – WWE’s Changing Audience & Business ModelThe conversation shifts to WWE’s evolving business strategy: higher ticket prices, catering to wealthier audiences, and speculation about a possible Saudi buyout.10:00 – Nick Khan, TKO Era, and Corporate TakeoverThe hosts analyze Nick Khan’s influence, the TKO era, and whether WWE’s leadership is being overrun by corporate greed.16:00 – The Future of WWE & Wrestling’s Investment ValueDebate about WWE as a long-term investment, the fate of the company under TKO, and the difference between past and present wrestling ownership.22:00 – Monday Night Raw Recap & Production CritiqueAnthony and Joe break down the latest Raw, including match pacing, production quirks, and the “Australian Street Fight” promo.30:00 – Women’s Division: Kairi Sane, Asuka, and BayleyA deep dive into the women’s division: Kairi Sane’s reputation for injuring opponents, Asuka’s standout performance, and Bayley’s current character direction.40:00 – Main Event: CM Punk & LA Knight vs. The UsosRecap and analysis of the main event, including the chemistry between Punk and LA Knight, and thoughts on the show’s overall flow.47:00 – Closing Banter & Upcoming ContentThe hosts discuss wrestling merch oddities (body pillows, towels), upcoming shows, and shoutouts to friends and other podcasts.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/wrestling-soup--1425249/support.

00:00 – 02:15 | Opening Banter & The Saudi TakeoverAnthony and Joe open the show discussing Saudi Arabia’s growing influence in sports and entertainment, poking fun at recent high-profile purchases and the ethics of “selling out.”02:15 – 03:45 | Call-In Chaos & The Return of the Soup HotlineReminiscing about the old call-in number, random callers, and plans to bring back live audience interaction.03:45 – 06:00 | Comedy, Contracts, and the Price of FameA sharp, funny discussion about comedians like Bill Burr and Kevin Hart taking big-money Saudi gigs, and the moral gymnastics of the entertainment industry.06:00 – 08:55 | Bill Burr, Anthony Cumia, and the Ethics of FriendshipA deep dive into the Bill Burr/Anthony Cumia drama, cancel culture, and the shifting lines of loyalty and morality in comedy and wrestling.08:55 – 15:00 | John Cena’s Retirement: Hype, Ticket Prices, and WWE’s StrategyBreaking down the upcoming John Cena retirement event, wild ticket prices, and WWE’s marketing moves. Includes a hilarious riff on what $11,500 gets you at a wrestling show.15:00 – 22:00 | Dave & Buster’s, Human Crane Games, and Arcade HustlesAnthony shares a story about dominating arcade games, winning prizes, and the weird world of human crane machines.22:00 – 27:00 | TNA, Kurt Angle, and Wrestling’s Wildest YearsA nostalgic and irreverent look at TNA’s “Beautiful People” era, Kurt Angle’s drug-fueled run, and the tragic history of wrestling’s biggest stars.27:00 – 33:00 | Generational Grief, Social Media, and Wrestling TragediesReflecting on how wrestling fans process loss, the impact of social media, and the generational divide in mourning wrestling legends.33:00 – 40:00 | Andrade’s Return, Rumors, and Wrestling’s Drug CultureA candid discussion about Andrade’s WWE release, wellness policy violations, and the ongoing issues of drugs in wrestling.40:00 – 50:00 | WWE’s Global Expansion, Crown Jewel, and Branding OdditiesRiffing on WWE’s international branding, the oddity of “Crown Jewel” in Australia, and the future of global wrestling events.50:00 – 1:10:00 | Reality TV, Coaching Drama, and the Next GenerationA lively debate about WWE’s reality shows, coaching changes, and which legends should be mentoring the next crop of wrestling talent.1:10:00 – 1:30:00 | Lacey Evans, Copyright Crusades, and Wrestling’s Internet AgeWrapping up with a wild segment on Lacey Evans’ DMCA takedowns, the challenges of erasing your past online, and the absurdity of wrestling’s digital drama.1:30:00 – End | Listener Shoutouts & PlugsListener shoutouts, plugs for Frank & Gus, and a reminder to check out Spitball Media and the Wrestling Soup Patreon!—Want more? Follow us on Twitter, YouTube, and join the Patreon for bonus content and live shows!Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/wrestling-soup--1425249/support.

(00:00:00) The LFG Screwjob: The hosts discuss Drake Moreau's controversial return to replace BJ Ray and join Team Bubba, debating whether it was a legitimate technicality or a move of charity.(00:08:44) Promo Battle: Anthony Luke vs. Shiloh Hill: A look at the intense, face-to-face promo leading into the first men's semi-final match.(00:12:48) Match Breakdown: Luke vs. Hill: The crew analyzes the stellar TV match, praising Anthony Luke's ring awareness and Shiloh's impressive offense, which The Undertaker called main-show-ready.(00:19:42) The Verdict on Luke: The judges choose Shiloh to advance. The hosts debate the decision and praise Anthony Luke's powerful exit promo.(00:24:25) Promo Battle: Nasty vs. Zena Sterling: A look at the completely one-sided promo where Nasty verbally dismantled a frozen Zena Sterling.(00:27:00) Match Breakdown: Nasty vs. Zena: A critical review of the match where Zena appeared lost, leading to "ghost bumps" and criticism from the coaches, while Nasty delivered on her powerhouse reputation.(00:34:55) Promo Battle: The Spitfires: Danny Zukowski and Serena Lyndon face off in a promo battle where Danny's intensity felt real and captivating.(00:39:19) Match Breakdown: Zukowski vs. Lyndon: The hosts critique the fast and sometimes sloppy pacing of the match but praise the heel work and key spots, including Serena's 450 splash into a Hell's Gate submission.(00:48:29) Promo Battle: Harlem vs. Drake Moreau: Analyzing the promo where Harlem calls Drake a charity case, and Drake fires back with promises of a violent victory.(00:52:43) Match Breakdown: Harlem vs. Drake: A deep dive into the physical, well-paced main event. The hosts are impressed with Drake's fire and vastly improved offense, including his discus lariat and chokeslam.(01:00:03) A Hung Jury: The judges' vote ends in a 2-2 tie, forcing a rematch in the finale. The hosts discuss Booker T's biased questioning and Harlem's surprisingly professional response.(01:05:00) Final Predictions: Looking ahead to the finale, the hosts debate who they want to win and who they think the company needs to win from the remaining men and women.(01:15:31) Outro & PlugsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/wrestling-soup--1425249/support.

[0:00] – Joe and Anthony open the show with banter about the Super Bowl halftime show, Bad Bunny, and pop culture reactions.[1:40] – Discussion about Adele, public perceptions, and the shift in halftime show performers.[6:00] – The conversation shifts to Monday Night Raw, with Anthony expressing excitement to discuss wrestling.[7:00] – Commentary on body image, public criticism of wrestlers, and the evolution of audience attitudes.[10:40] – In-depth analysis of the women’s division storyline, focusing on Rhea Ripley, Iyo Sky, and Asuka, including acting critiques and storytelling nuances.[18:00] – Anthony and Joe discuss the pacing and structure of WWE segments, with suggestions for improvement.[23:00] – Reflections on the complexity of current WWE storylines, character development, and audience engagement.[28:00] – The hosts analyze the dynamics between Cody Rhodes, Seth Rollins, and other main event figures, critiquing the storytelling and character motivations.[36:00] – Discussion about LA Knight, Adam Pearce, and the undercard, including thoughts on missed opportunities and WWE’s booking decisions.[44:00] – The episode covers the tag team division, the role of authority figures, and the evolution of certain wrestlers’ personas.[50:00] – Joe and Anthony reflect on the international roster, backstage influences, and the longevity of certain wrestlers in WWE.[56:00] – The main event is recapped, including the tornado tag match, Roman Reigns’ appearance, and the crowd’s reaction.[1:05:00] – Closing thoughts on the episode, including personal updates, shoutouts, and reminders to subscribe and follow the show.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/wrestling-soup--1425249/support.

In this episode of Frank and Gus, Anthony and Joe dive deep into the 2025 PWI 500 list, offering their signature blend of humor, skepticism, and wrestling insight. From technical difficulties and behind-the-scenes banter to a scene-by-scene roast of the top 30 wrestlers, the duo pulls no punches. Expect candid takes on the state of wrestling, the legitimacy of rankings, and plenty of laughs as they dissect the highs, lows, and head-scratchers of this year’s list.Anthony and Joe kick off with their usual rapport, streaming quirks, and Introducing the PWI 500The hosts set the stage for the episode’s main event: a breakdown of the 2025 PWI 500 list.Top 10 Deep DiveA scene-by-scene review of the top 10 wrestlers, including Cody Rhodes, John Moxley, Gunther, and more. Expect sharp opinions and plenty of jokes.AEW vs WWE: The Great DebateAnthony and Joe debate the merits of AEW and WWE talent, questioning the logic behind the rankings and sharing personal favorites.International Stars & SurprisesThe duo reacts to the inclusion of international wrestlers, discussing the global landscape of pro wrestling and some unexpected picks.Beyond the Top 10: 11–30A rapid-fire rundown of the next 20 names, with commentary on who deserves their spot and who doesn’t.Reflections on how quickly the wrestling world changes, with past stars falling and new faces rising.Closing Thoughts & PlugsWrapping up with final thoughts, Patreon plugs, and a reminder to follow the show for more wrestling talk.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/wrestling-soup--1425249/support.