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How does a regular person help pass two first-in-the-nation laws? Texas mother and policy advocate Liz walks us through how she did exactly that in 2025: holding insurance companies accountable for the consequences of sex rejecting procedures, and requiring sex accuracy in electronic health records. A pragmatic conversation about playing the long game , choosing winable battles and how ordinary people can actually move legislation.

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