The Manosphere, Part 2

On the inaugural episode of the podcast, Katherine and Naama discuss 2010’s seminal documentary, Catfish: the movie that started a show, a phenomenon, and a prolific career for its star, Nev Schulman.

Katherine and Naama discuss the iconic personal advertisement section of Craigslist known as “Missed Connections.” What are people actually hoping to find when they post?

Naama and Katherine discuss cam girls: the history, business model, cultural context, and psychology of these digital entertainers.

Katherine and Naama discuss the phenomenon of Spreadsheet Dating: an optimized approach to love for the #girlboss of recent history. Read the piece in Vice: https://www.vice.com/en/article/4a3dew/optimisation-dating-hustle-culture-match-making And take the love calculation based on the 37% rule: https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/math/a30859888/calculate-love-valentines-day/ Subscribe on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts and follow on Twitter @wemetonlinepod.

Naama and Katherine wade into the Manosphere with a reading of a few of its most iconic and formative posts, and a lively discussion… very lively, and long — this one’s a two-parter so stay tuned for the conclusion next week. ______________________________________________________________________References: Sex and Character, by Otto Weininger (1906): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1692509/pdf/medlibhistj00008-0073.pdf 5 Reasons to Date a Girl with an Eating Disorder: https://web.archive.org/web/20131127074616/http://www.returnofkings.com/21313/5-reasons-to-date-a-girl-with-an-eating-disorder Ladder Theory: https://laddertheory.com/ The Unbearable Triteness of Hating: https://heartiste.org/2010/05/27/the-unbearable-triteness-of-hating/ More Grim News for Carouselers: https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/11/24/more-grim-news-for-carousellers-hoping-to-jump-at-the-last-minute/

Today Katherine and Naama discuss Nora Ephron's 1998 romantic comedy, "You've Got Mail" along with a host of questions about falling in love online, digital psychosis, and if it's possible to pairbond during cybersex. Read “Cold Intimacies” by Eva Illouz.

Naama and Katherine briefly wade in the waters of the Manosphere, by reading some iconic posts and discussing them. This one gets lively. Part 2 of 2. References: Sex and Character, by Otto Weininger (1906): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1692509/pdf/medlibhistj00008-0073.pdf 5 Reasons to Date a Girl with an Eating Disorder: https://web.archive.org/web/20131127074616/http://www.returnofkings.com/21313/5-reasons-to-date-a-girl-with-an-eating-disorder Ladder Theory: https://laddertheory.com/ The Unbearable Triteness of Hating: https://heartiste.org/2010/05/27/the-unbearable-triteness-of-hating/ More Grim News for Carouselers: https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/11/24/more-grim-news-for-carousellers-hoping-to-jump-at-the-last-minute/

Katherine and Naama explore the infinitely imaginative space of erotic fan fiction by discussing "Slash," the 2016 indie gem starring Michael Johnston and Hannah Marks. References: "Slash" (2016) IMDb: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4729990/  Archive of Our Own: https://archiveofourown.org/FanFiction.Net: https://www.fanfiction.net/Fansplaining (website and podcast): https://www.fansplaining.com/

While Katherine Dee is away on special assignment, Naama and special guest, Brooke (her IRL bessie) discuss the cultural phenomenon of Tradwives: Who are they? Do they have any influence? Are they... dangerous?  References: RedPillWives: https://www.reddit.com/r/RedPillWives/. Thoughts on Tradthots: https://didacticmind.com/2017/12/thoughts-on-tradthots.html. Allie Beth Stuckey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd2B5NI6rfE&t=380s. JustPearlyThingz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd2B5NI6rfE&t=380s