So... How Was Drive-Thru Church?!

This is a **touchy** conversation. Treat it that way.Latter-day Saints believe we have a Mother in Heaven. That part is real. What is *not* revealed is whether she is the Holy Ghost, whether there is one Mother or many, or how the Godhead is structured beyond what the scriptures already say.We are speculating. We say that out loud.In this episode:- Kwaku’s case: divine wisdom / Sophia / feminine Spirit- The problem: the Holy Ghost is spoken of as “he” in scripture- President Oaks: “Heavenly Mother or Mothers” — we don’t know- Chris Blythe’s two practical rules from current Church culture: 1. Don’t teach that Heavenly Mother *is* the Holy Ghost 2. Don’t publicly pray to Heavenly Mother- A 1843 Franklin D. Richards note that the Holy Ghost is “in a state of probation” — contested, not canon- Elohim as plural, justice and mercy, masculine and feminine- The Monad, graduated intelligences, and why infinite-regress god-chains get ugly- Why stuffing Heavenly Mother into the Godhead to “give her a seat” may be the wrong instinct**Guardrails first.** Unity in the essentials. Liberty in the non-essentials. Reverence the whole way down.This is not a declaration of doctrine. If you clip it like it is, you missed the episode.#HeavenlyMother #HolyGhost #LatterDaySaints #WardRadioChapter Markers0:00 – Cold open: dove, not falcon 1:30 – Green-room question: is the Holy Ghost Heavenly Mother? 2:30 – Kwaku: “If I had to pick…” 4:00 – Sophia, wisdom, and the jump to the Holy Ghost 4:50 – Oaks: Mother or Mothers — we don’t know 5:20 – Scriptures call the Spirit “he” 6:20 – Fast-and-testimony energy 7:40 – Sophia in Proverbs 8 and Gnosticism 8:50 – Sponsor: Brother Joseph screening 9:00 – Chris’s Sophia dream 10:20 – “I won’t make Mother inferior to the Son” 10:40 – 1843 note: Holy Ghost in probation 12:00 – JSP revisions and “gospel fluff” concerns 13:00 – Is the Godhead even a hierarchy? 14:10 – One Heavenly Mother, or many? 15:10 – Elder Renlund / Gospel Topics: stick to what we know 16:10 – Two rules: don’t teach she’s the Holy Ghost; don’t pray to her publicly 17:30 – Elohim is plural — is Mother in “the image of God”? 19:00 – Don’t force her into the Godhead for representation points 19:40 – Ancient religions and feminine wisdom 20:30 – The Monad and “single to the glory of God” 22:00 – Graduated intelligences 24:20 – Spirit person ≠ lesser person 25:10 – Why an endless chain of Gods is terrifying 26:40 – What if a trusted messenger rebelled later?Become a member of this channel to get early access to videos and members only content:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnmsAFGrFuGe0obW6tkEY6w/joinSupport the channel by purchasing equipment to help make content through our Amazon Wish List (please write a limerick in the "gist notes" and we will read it on the show!): https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1AQLMTSMBM4DC?ref_=wl_shareTo order Ward Radio Branded "merch", please visit: https://www.wardradio.com/category/all-products For this and more, please visit: WardRadio.comNow go do your ministering! (Home Teaching)🍿For more information on the October 2nd, 2026 Event, please visit https://www.wardradio.com/event-details/ward-radio-pre-screening-of-brother-joseph-again⚡For more information on Go And Do Travel, please visit https://www.goanddotravel.com/1126wavemakersWe would also like to thank the following generous sponsors:⚡For more information on scripture notes please visit: https://scripturenotes.com/?via=wardradio⚡For more information on the Angel Studios Guild , please visit Angel.comFollow us at:Instagram:@WardRadioWorldwideFacebook: @WardRadioWorldwideTwitter: WardRadioShowTikTok: WardRadioWorldwideTo subscribe to "The Women of Ward Radio" Youtube Channel, please visit: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbu-wpRztV-8TYXClhUZhhwTo Subscribe to Cardon Ellis' Adventure Channel, please visit: http://www.youtube.com/@CardonEllisAdventures

Before *A New Hope*, George Lucas wrote **five complete scripts**. They are not the movie you know...In the early drafts:- The heroes weren’t Jedi. They were the **Dai Nogas**- The Force was the **Force of Others** — split into **Ashla** (good) and **Bogan** (evil)- A holy man called **the Skywalker** found the Force and trusted it to his **12 children**- Those children became the Jedi Bendu — *servants* of the Force- A padawan named **Darklightner** fell, taught Sith pirates, and the light went extinct- Draft 2 has Luke kill Darth Vader in a **five-minute duel on top of the Death Star**- Draft 3 opens with a fake scripture: *“In the time of greatest despair there shall come a savior… the son of the suns.”*Reid Moon owns all five drafts. We walk through the Christian / messianic scaffolding Lucas later sanded off — plus the original Obi-Wan line that never made the film, how these scripts survive at auction, and the one controversy the pages actually settle:Han shot first.#StarWars #WardRadio #GeorgeLucas### Chapter Markers0:00 – Intro 2:00 – Star Wars as the unofficial Mormon movie 2:40 – Five totally different scripts before filming 3:05 – Draft 1: Dai Nogas, King Kayos, Legions of Lettow 4:10 – How “Dianoga” became the trash-compactor monster 4:45 – Why the prequels wrecked Vader 7:05 – Draft 2: Jedi Bendu of Ashla 8:00 – Black Knights of the Sith 8:45 – The holy man called the Skywalker 9:30 – Ashla and Bogan 10:15 – He entrusted the Force to his 12 children 11:20 – Jedi means servant 12:20 – A Great Apostasy in the first scripts 12:50 – Sponsor: Brother Joseph screening 13:00 – Darklighter falls to the Bogan 13:50 – Luke kills Vader in five minutes on the Death Star 14:15 – Darklighter and Vader merge 15:20 – Draft 3 quotes “scripture”: Journal of the Whills 15:40 – “There shall come a savior… the son of the suns” 16:50 – Tatooine’s two suns 17:30 – Dark Lords of the Sith 18:00 – Drafts 4–5: a galaxy far, far away / Luke Starkiller 18:50 – They went off-script 30% of the time 19:00 – The Obi-Wan vs. Vader line Lucas didn’t want 20:05 – “A spoon perceives the taste of food” 21:00 – Did Obi-Wan give up the ghost? 22:10 – Why the religion got quieter 22:40 – Reading pre-famous George Lucas 25:20 – How Reid got all five drafts 27:10 – Named copies: Roger Christian, Anthony Daniels 29:20 – Disney can’t yank these off the auction block 30:05 – Sharing the scripts with fans 31:30 – Han shot first. It’s in the draft. 32:30 – OutroBecome a member of this channel to get early access to videos and members only content:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnmsAFGrFuGe0obW6tkEY6w/joinSupport the channel by purchasing equipment to help make content through our Amazon Wish List (please write a limerick in the "gist notes" and we will read it on the show!): https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1AQLMTSMBM4DC?ref_=wl_shareTo order Ward Radio Branded "merch", please visit: https://www.wardradio.com/category/all-products For this and more, please visit: WardRadio.comNow go do your ministering! (Home Teaching)🍿For more information on the October 2nd, 2026 Event, please visit https://www.wardradio.com/event-details/ward-radio-pre-screening-of-brother-joseph-again⚡For more information on Go And Do Travel, please visit https://www.goanddotravel.com/1126wavemakersWe would also like to thank the following generous sponsors:⚡For more information on scripture notes please visit: https://scripturenotes.com/?via=wardradio⚡For more information on the Angel Studios Guild , please visit Angel.comFollow us at:Instagram:@WardRadioWorldwideFacebook: @WardRadioWorldwideTwitter: WardRadioShowTikTok: WardRadioWorldwideTo subscribe to "The Women of Ward Radio" Youtube Channel, please visit: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbu-wpRztV-8TYXClhUZhhwTo Subscribe to Cardon Ellis' Adventure Channel, please visit: http://www.youtube.com/@CardonEllisAdventures

Brittany the Shadow, Sean Layton from Ward Radio Games, and Ethan Fausett, Discord Moderator, join Cardon Ellis and the World Wide Ward Radio fan base discuss Lindsay Clancy, Mormon Girlz, and enjoy some ginger snaps!

Kwaku El and Maddy Packer team up with Cardon Ellis and Brittany the Shadow to teach people how to recognize toxic "cry-bullism" online, and instruct us how to respond to it. It's gonna be fun.

Alright... so.... how was drive-through Church? #Pro-LDS #mormon

Another debate between a "Mormons-are-heretics" evangelical and a god-head-is-awesome" Mormon went really well for the 'mormon'

Are Young Single Adult Wards helping people get married… or just teaching them how to stay single?In this episode we go after a question a lot of people are whispering:Should the Church dissolve YSA wards?We talk about:- Why early-2000s Mormon culture felt warmer — and why that energy is gone- Why so many YSA sacrament meetings feel cold, cliquey, and transactional- The “guys on one side, girls on the other” synagogue vibe- Elders Quorum getting shoved into kitchens, stages, and overflow closets- Utah dating TikToks and the collapse of asking people out- Ego, vanity, and “baddie culture” vs. actual friendliness- Why putting singles only with other singles can trap people in Peter Pan mode- A better model: keep records in family wards, keep singles *activities*, change the Sunday structure- The wild (half-serious) proposal for a stake-wide Sunday night YSA gathering with dinner- Why men checking out of dating is not just a “red pill” talking pointThis one is messy, funny, and uncomfortable on purpose. The point isn’t to dunk on anyone. The point is that if the current system isn’t producing friendship, discipleship, or marriages, it should be on the table.#YSA #LatterDaySaints #Dating #WardRadioChapter Markers0:00 – “I think we should dissolve YSA wards” 1:30 – Early 2000s Mormon culture vs. now 4:00 – Why YSA wards feel cold and unfriendly 6:00 – Separate seating and Elders Quorum in closets 8:30 – Utah dating TikToks: nobody likes anybody 10:20 – Ego culture and the rise of the “baddie” 11:10 – Sponsor: Go and Do Travel 12:00 – “Something inside them dies” 13:40 – Guys checking out of asking girls out 17:20 – Circular delusion in friend groups 19:00 – It’s not wokeism — it’s ego 21:00 – Conference talks vs. the actual YSA experience 23:00 – This is not a red-pill “women shouldn’t vote” take 25:30 – Caste systems, young men, and historical blowback 28:00 – Human dignity over looks, money, and status 30:00 – Solution: put singles in family wards 32:00 – Trump bit: shutdown of YSA wards 33:50 – Keep singles activities, change Sunday worship 35:20 – Stake-wide Sunday night YSA meeting + dinner 38:50 – Men need to level up (gym, clothes, effort) 41:10 – Harley vs. Zara 43:00 – The one-year dating boycott idea 46:00 – “This is a bit… with some truth in it” 48:00 – Closing: come back together as equalsBecome a member of this channel to get early access to videos and members only content:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnmsAFGrFuGe0obW6tkEY6w/joinSupport the channel by purchasing equipment to help make content through our Amazon Wish List (please write a limerick in the "gist notes" and we will read it on the show!): https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1AQLMTSMBM4DC?ref_=wl_shareTo order Ward Radio Branded "merch", please visit: https://www.wardradio.com/category/all-products For this and more, please visit: WardRadio.comNow go do your ministering! (Home Teaching)⚡For more information on Go And Do Travel, please visit https://www.goanddotravel.com/1126wavemakersWe would also like to thank the following generous sponsors:⚡For more information on scripture notes please visit: https://scripturenotes.com/?via=wardradio⚡For more information on the Angel Studios Guild , please visit Angel.comFollow us at:Instagram:@WardRadioWorldwideFacebook: @WardRadioWorldwideTwitter: WardRadioShowTikTok: WardRadioWorldwideTo subscribe to "The Women of Ward Radio" Youtube Channel, please visit: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbu-wpRztV-8TYXClhUZhhwTo Subscribe to Cardon Ellis' Adventure Channel, please visit: http://www.youtube.com/@CardonEllisAdventures

Olivia Dunson — better known as "Inspire.w.Olivia" — is one of the fastest-rising Gen Z Latter-day Saint voices on Instagram and TikTok.Short, funny, honest, and occasionally savage.In this episode we play her viral reels, talk about the backlash she got from people who insist Mormons aren’t Christian, and get into why her page is connecting so fast:- Why “You’re a real Christian, though… right?” hits so hard- The cross-necklace controversy- Why authenticity beats black-and-white “if you have questions, leave” culture- The coming **ex-ex-Mormon wave**- Why people who leave and come back can become spiritual powerhouses — and why we still shouldn’t forget the people who quietly stayed- What the Church is actually failing Gen Z on: inviting questions, then freezing when the questions get real- Modesty, lived experience, and why Sunday School teachers panicIf you’ve been watching young members leave *and* come back, this one explains the mood on the ground.Find Olivia: **inspire.w.olivia** on Instagram and TikTok.#LatterDaySaints #GenZ #OliviaDunson #WardRadioChapter Markers0:00 – Intro: Meet Olivia Dunson / Inspire with Olivia 1:10 – Why Gen Z relates to her 3:30 – Millennials vs. Gen Z faith 5:10 – Viral reel: “You’re a real Christian, though…” 5:40 – The savage follow-up reel 6:20 – Olivia joins: Trinity backlash and hate comments 7:00 – “Mormons can’t wear crosses” 8:10 – The “wrong Jesus” argument 9:40 – Why authenticity works 11:00 – “The crying girl on the Internet” 14:00 – Best and worst parts of LDS content creation 15:30 – The reconvert / XX-Mormon wave 17:00 – CES Letter era vs. now 18:30 – Childlike faith → complex faith → stronger faith 20:00 – Don’t only lionize people who left and came back 22:30 – How to help Gen Z’s faith 24:00 – Leaving without malice vs. “everything is a lie” 25:50 – Is an ex-ex-Mormon wave coming? 26:00 – What’s driving people back 29:40 – What our culture is failing Gen Z on 30:50 – Modesty questions teachers are afraid to answer 36:40 – Wrap-up + where to find OliviaBecome a member of this channel to get early access to videos and members only content:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnmsAFGrFuGe0obW6tkEY6w/joinSupport the channel by purchasing equipment to help make content through our Amazon Wish List (please write a limerick in the "gist notes" and we will read it on the show!): https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1AQLMTSMBM4DC?ref_=wl_shareTo order Ward Radio Branded "merch", please visit: https://www.wardradio.com/category/all-products For this and more, please visit: WardRadio.comNow go do your ministering! (Home Teaching)⚡For more information on Go And Do Travel, please visit https://www.goanddotravel.com/1126wavemakersWe would also like to thank the following generous sponsors:⚡For more information on scripture notes please visit: https://scripturenotes.com/?via=wardradio⚡For more information on the Angel Studios Guild , please visit Angel.comFollow us at:Instagram:@WardRadioWorldwideFacebook: @WardRadioWorldwideTwitter: WardRadioShowTikTok: WardRadioWorldwideTo subscribe to "The Women of Ward Radio" Youtube Channel, please visit: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbu-wpRztV-8TYXClhUZhhwTo Subscribe to Cardon Ellis' Adventure Channel, please visit: http://www.youtube.com/@CardonEllisAdventures

KJ Hershey of 1830 Studios brought three prototype Book of Mormon brick sets into the studio — Laban’s house, Lehi’s Tree of Life vision, and Nephi’s ship — and the details are wild.In this episode we talk about:- Why these aren’t legally “Lego” sets (and how the brick market actually works)- Why Nephi’s ship is designed like a proto-Polynesian catamaran instead of a 16th-century galleon- The Tree of Life as a temple / heavenly ascent- Why the iron rod may not have been a handrail at all- The tree as a seven-branch menorah- How custom minifigs, printed tiles, and future mega-builds of Zarahemla, Nauvoo, and Palmyra could work#BookOfMormon #Lego #1830Studios #WardRadio #IronRodChapter Markers0:00 – Intro: Book of Mormon brick sets in the studio 1:30 – “They’re bricks, not Legos” 2:40 – Laban’s house (adobe, mosaic floor, removable rooms) 4:20 – Meet KJ Hershey / 1830 Studios 5:20 – How he designed Laban’s house 6:10 – Tree of Life set + Nephi’s ship 7:30 – Why you can manufacture bricks but not copy minifig shape 9:00 – Tree of Life details: white fruit, mist, filthy river, great and spacious building 10:20 – Why Nephi’s ship is a catamaran, not a Spanish Galleon 12:10 – Polynesian / Hagoth connection 15:20 – Custom printed Lego minifigs (Laban, missionaries, etc.) 17:20 – Sponsor: Go and Do Travel 18:20 – Creative liberties vs. official Church videos 20:00 – Making scripture feel real (Hill Cumorah pageant) 21:30 – How many pieces / how manufacturing works 24:50 – The iron rod was not a handrail 26:20 – Tree of Life as temple / heavenly ascent 27:10 – The tree as a menorah 28:20 – Sources: Dave Butler, *Language of Adam*, BYU Studies 29:40 – Ward Radio collab ideas 31:00 – Great and spacious building close-up 31:40 – Pricing and pre-orders 33:00 – Future mega-builds: Zarahemla, Nauvoo, Palmyra 33:45 – What’s next: audio, games, TVJoin this channel to get access to perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnmsAFGrFuGe0obW6tkEY6w/joinAmazon Wish List: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1AQLMTSMBM4DC?ref_=wl_shareVisit us for this and more at: WardRadio.comTo subscribe to "The Women of Ward Radio" Youtube Channel, please visit: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbu-wpRztV-8TYXClhUZhhwTo Subscribe to Cardon Ellis' Adventure Channel, please visit: http://www.youtube.com/@CardonEllisAdventuresThe following authors and/or sponsors are generously offering discounts on their gospel-related publication to Ward Radio listeners.⚡For free trial of Scripture Notes please visit the following link!: https://scripturenotes.com/?via=wardradio⚡For a discount on Tiny 3D Temples, Save 15% with code WARDRADIO at checkout or visit tiny3dtemples.com/wardradio⚡Family: A Rhyming Proclamation for Kids book visit the following linkhttps://plainandpreciouspublishing.com/products/family-a-rhyming-proclamation-for-kids . Use the code "Ward Radio" for 10% off. ⚡To Order Jonah’s Book, “Lost Gems of Genesis” visit the following link and use coupon Code: WARDRADIO https://plainandpreciouspublishing.com/products/coming-soon-the-lost-gems-of-genesis-how-apocryphal-texts-prove-joseph-smith-fixed-the-bibleFor 10% off Plain and Precious Publishing Books, visit plainandpreciouspublishing.com and use Coupon Code: WARDRADIOFor a 5% discount on Go and Do Travel, visit goanddotravel.com and use the promo code WARDRADIO5#christian #mormon #exmormon #latter-daysaints #latterdaysaints #latterdays #bible #bookofmormon #archaeology #BYU #midnightmormons #jesus #jesuschrist #scriptures #sundayschool #biblestudy #christiancomedy #cardonellis #kwakuel #bradwitbeckTo support the channel:Venmo @WardRadio or visit: https://account.venmo.com/u/MidnightMormonsPaypal: paypal.me/@midnightmedia CashApp: $WardRadioFollow us at:Instagram: @cardonellis @kwakuel @braderico @boho.birdyFacebook: @WardRadioWorldwideTwitter: WardRadioShowTikTok: WardRadioWorldwide

This one is raw.LDS Members Ugly Infighting Is Worse Than the Critics!Anonymous conservative LDS accounts — the Deseret Nation / “frogmo” corner of X — start calling LDS podcasters the “lowest form of latter-day life,” dunking on a year-old joke video, and treating humor like apostasy.That’s not the gospel. That’s infighting.In this episode we talk about:- Captain M'honri, Old Fox, and the anonymous pile-on- What #DesNat used to be — and what it turned into- The horseshoe: progmos embarrassed by the Church on the left, Protestant- LARPing zealots on the right- Why putting your real name on a take (even a bad one) is more Christian than hiding behind an avatar- Why this looks *terrible* to people outside the Church- Alma 4: contentions *among* the people of the Church becoming a stumbling block to everyone else- Peacemaking without becoming a doormat- An invitation to audit your own social media: light of the world, not saltiest of the earthChrist’s pattern was “neither do I condemn thee… go and sin no more.” A lot of what passed for “defending the Church” this week was just pride with a scripture overlay.If you’re tired of watching Saints devour Saints while the world watches, this is the episode.#LatterDaySaints #WardRadio #DesNatChapter Markers0:00 – Intro 1:10 – Minivan through the meetinghouse doors 2:20 – Anonymous comments hit Ward Radio 3:00 – “Lowest form of latter-day life” 3:50 – Captain M'honri and the Temple Square superhero post 5:20 – What #DesNat used to be 7:00 – Horseshoe effect: progmos and frogmos 9:50 – Anonymous accounts vs. people who put their name on it 10:40 – Why Jim Bennett gets more respect than cowards online 12:50 – Lions not sheep… and lemmings 14:35 – Sponsor: Go and Do Travel 15:30 – Is this a LARP account? 17:20 – Shame instead of correction 20:00 – How should Saints actually handle online conflict? 25:00 – Calling out behavior without becoming the mob 28:00 – Self-defense analogy vs. “our words are violence” 32:00 – Separate the person from the behavior 33:20 – Alma 4: contention *inside* the Church 35:00 – Pride as a stumbling block to outsiders 37:00 – Call to repentance is not the same as condemnation 39:00 – Counter-punch only… and still checking ourselves 41:00 – Wholesome cringe is not the enemy 43:00 – If you’re attacking Brad Whitbeck and Jasmine Rappleye, you’ve lost the plot 45:00 – Consider the source 46:00 – The “unholy trinity of cringe” guy is also a nerd 48:00 – Invitation: audit your own social media 50:00 – Be the light, not the saltiest Saint online 52:00 – Anonymous isn’t automatically evil — cruelty is Become a member of this channel to get early access to videos and members only content:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnmsAFGrFuGe0obW6tkEY6w/joinSupport the channel by purchasing equipment to help make content through our Amazon Wish List (please write a limerick in the "gist notes" and we will read it on the show!): https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1AQLMTSMBM4DC?ref_=wl_shareTo order Ward Radio Branded "merch", please visit: https://www.wardradio.com/category/all-products For this and more, please visit: WardRadio.comNow go do your ministering! (Home Teaching)⚡For more information on Go And Do Travel, please visit https://www.goanddotravel.com/1126wavemakersWe would also like to thank the following generous sponsors:⚡For more information on scripture notes please visit: https://scripturenotes.com/?via=wardradio⚡For more information on the Angel Studios Guild , please visit Angel.comFollow us at:Instagram:@WardRadioWorldwideFacebook: @WardRadioWorldwideTwitter: WardRadioShowTikTok: WardRadioWorldwideTo subscribe to "The Women of Ward Radio" Youtube Channel, please visit: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbu-wpRztV-8TYXClhUZhhwTo Subscribe to Cardon Ellis' Adventure Channel, please visit: http://www.youtube.com/@CardonEllisAdventures