He Debated with Ed Decker and Was Sued for $27 Million (with Robert Starling)

Most Latter-day Saints think they know what the Pearl of Great Price is—but what if we’ve all been misunderstanding it? Cardon sits down with Jonah Barnes, author of Lost Gems of Genesis, to uncover the overlooked origins, revelations, and hidden depth of one of the Church’s most fascinating volumes of scripture. Jonah reveals that the Pearl of Great Price isn’t one continuous text, but a compilation of distinct revelations—given to Joseph Smith, Moses, and Adam at different times. He clears up major misconceptions about the so-called Joseph Smith Translation of Genesis, explaining why it’s not really a “translation” at all. The conversation dives into: The real story behind the Pearl of Great Price’s compilation, how the “lost 116 pages” might connect to Genesis material, why Joseph Smith’s revelations show unmatched originality, and yes—why Jonah calls the Pearl of Great Price the “Oops, All Berries” of scripture. Whether you’re a lifelong member or just curious about the foundations of Latter-day Saint belief, this episode will change how you read the scriptures forever.

When The God Makers hit the scene in the 1980s, it became one of the most infamous and damaging anti-Mormon films ever produced. In this episode of Ward Radio, we sit down with Robert Starling—author of A Case for Latter-day Christianity—to hear the inside story of how he confronted it head-on.Robert opens up about his time as a stake mission president and media specialist in Los Angeles, where he carefully tracked anti-LDS campaigns and uncovered the deceptive tactics behind The God Makers. He details his painstaking rebuttal of the film, identifying dozens of falsehoods, distortions, and outright fabrications used to misrepresent Latter-day Saint belief. His defense didn’t come without cost—Starling was dragged into a $27 million lawsuit simply for standing up for his faith and telling the truth.This conversation is more than a history lesson. It’s a gripping reminder of the spiritual battles fought not with weapons, but with words, research, and conviction. Robert’s story shows how ordinary Saints, armed with courage and testimony, can push back against misrepresentation and protect their faith community from attack.

We react to conference and a recent video a data scientist did about the Book of Mormon.

The relationship between evolution and Latter-day Saint belief is more than a passing curiosity—it’s a source of tension that continues to spark debate in classrooms, chapels, and even at BYU’s own Bean Museum. In this episode of Ward Radio, the panel dives straight into the heart of the issue, asking why exhibits depicting apes evolving into humans—and references to “Lucy”—cause so much frustration for members who believe in a literal Adam and Eve.But this discussion goes deeper than museum displays. The panel explores prophetic statements, common misunderstandings, and the spiritual implications of treating evolution as settled science. Along the way, they call out historical hoaxes, poke fun at academic double-speak, and wrestle with the bigger question: does embracing evolution undermine our divine identity as literal children of God, or can faith and science truly coexist?This isn’t just about fossils and theories—it’s about what it means to trust in modern prophets, to see past cultural assumptions, and to defend the doctrine that makes us who we are.

Cardon is joined by Ella Katzenback and guest Leah Tomlinson to dive deep into how Gen Z students at Brigham Young University (BYU) are rethinking marriage, children, and family size in today’s world.While large families have long been a celebrated part of Latter-day Saint (LDS) culture, shifting priorities and economic pressures are shaping new perspectives. Many students now prioritize financial stability and career readiness before considering marriage or kids, reflecting a growing sense of caution and pragmatism. Some women describe prioritizing finding a spouse over academic or professional ambitions, while men share the heavy economic pressures they feel to be providers before marrying.Our conversation highlights the tension between faith-driven ideals and real-world financial challenges, including the rising costs of raising children and the expectation of dual incomes in modern households. At the same time, BYU students share a genuine fondness for family and siblings, with many still aspiring to raise four to six children—though often fewer than the generations before them.Blending personal interviews, cultural reflection, and religious insight, this episode explores the unique crossroads where faith, finances, and modern values meet. While the traditional LDS vision of large families is evolving, the desire for family life remains strong, hopeful, and deeply tied to faith.

For a really, really long time, most members of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints reasonably assumed that their shared love of Christ and his teachings meant they were "Christians" like the rest of the North American Church... well... if the Michigan Chapel Shooting and the reaction by many 'Christians' in North America is any indicator... we may need to quickly realize we are not welcomed with open arms but hated as many have suspected for a long time before the quiet part was said out loud.

Cardon and BYU student Ella Kotzenbach reflect on the profound impact of Charlie Kirk’s assassination on the BYU and UVU communities.With on-the-ground student interviews from Haley, Maya McGavic, Ethan Clark, and Reese Schmidt, this episode captures the raw emotions, grief, and spiritual searching that swept across both campuses. From candlelight vigils to spontaneous gatherings at temple grounds, students share how this tragedy reshaped conversations, friendships, and faith journeys. Many describe the campus atmosphere shifting from its usual energy to one of reverence, silence, and unity. Beyond the politics, Cardon and Ella highlight how Kirk’s message of integrating faith into daily life left a lasting mark on Gen Z students, sparking reflection and even bringing some back to church. This episode is a portrait of a generation facing grief, grappling with belief, and choosing love and faith as a response to tragedy.

What’s it really like to date at BYU? Ella Katzenbach joins Ward Radio to share her first-hand perspective on the unique—and sometimes hilarious—world of Latter-day Saint dating culture in Provo.From unwritten rules and blind dates to the tension between faith, friendship, and finding “the one,” Ella doesn’t hold back. She unpacks stereotypes, shares personal stories, and talks through the challenges young Latter-day Saints face while navigating relationships in such a high-pressure environment.Whether you’ve been through the BYU dating scene yourself, are raising kids who might, or just want a window into how faith and culture collide on campus, this candid conversation is full of laughs, insights, and real talk.

We are joined by filmmaker Matt Whitaker, director of Truth and Treason, to explore the remarkable life of Helmut Hübener, a teenage Latter-day Saint who dared to defy Nazi Germany. At only 17 years old, Helmut became the youngest resistance fighter executed by the Third Reich, standing against tyranny with nothing but courage, conviction, and the written word.Whitaker shares how Helmut secretly listened to forbidden BBC broadcasts on a smuggled shortwave radio, uncovering truths hidden by Nazi propaganda. Inspired by what he heard, Helmut began typing and distributing anti-Nazi leaflets with the help of friends in his LDS branch, risking everything to tell the truth. The conversation also highlights the moral struggles faced by ordinary Germans, including local church leaders, and the chilling reality that the Gestapo closely monitored the Mormon community.Blending historical detail with deeply human reflection, this episode shows how one young man’s bravery continues to inspire generations. From Helmut’s quiet defiance to the modern retelling of his story in Truth and Treason with Angel Studios, listeners are invited to reflect on the cost of truth, the dangers of silence, and the enduring power of faith in the face of tyranny.

Matt Whitaker, a member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and a prolific filmmaker is making a movie, "Truth & Treason" with Angel Studios and he swung by the Ward Radio studio to talk to us all about it!