S3|E4: The Dryness and the Rain

Steven, Nic, and Joel discuss "Orange Spider," the second of the Spider Songs on Brother, Sister. Who are the mice, why are "we" trying to kill them, and what is Aaron laughing at? We get into it!   Want more uswithoutThem? Consider supporting us on Patreon! We're offering a number of cool perks including podcast merch, bonus episodes, live episodes, a Discord community, and more! We're prepping for some new perks during the production of Season 4, which will start in January 2025! Check it out here. Please consider rating and reviewing the podcast on Apple, Google, and Spotify! For more info about the podcast, including show notes, short blogs, and host info, visit our website: uswithoutthempod.com Join our Facebook group to keep the conversation going: uswithoutThem Podcast Keep up with the latest on social media: Instagram, Twitter, Facebook 

We've reached the [mystical?] center of the album! Nic, Joel, and Steven talk about the simplicity and complexity of faith, the possible sources of inspiration for the image of the sun and the moon, and, of course, the music!   Want more uswithoutThem? Consider supporting us on Patreon! We're offering a number of cool perks including podcast merch, bonus episodes, live episodes, a Discord community, and more! We're prepping for some new perks during the production of Season 4, which will start in Fall 2024! Check it out here. Please consider rating and reviewing the podcast on Apple, Google, and Spotify! For more info about the podcast, including show notes, short blogs, and host info, visit our website: uswithoutthempod.com Join our Facebook group to keep the conversation going: uswithoutThem Podcast Keep up with the latest on social media: Instagram, Twitter, Facebook 

The one where Joel says he's not sure what they're going to talk about and then the guys proceed to spin off a dozen different theories about the track! Want more uswithoutThem? Consider supporting us on Patreon! We're offering a number of cool perks including podcast merch, bonus episodes, live episodes, a Discord community, and more! We're prepping for some new perks during the production of Season 4, which will start in Fall 2024! Check it out here. Please consider rating and reviewing the podcast on Apple, Google, and Spotify! For more info about the podcast, including show notes, short blogs, and host info, visit our website: uswithoutthempod.com Join our Facebook group to keep the conversation going: uswithoutThem Podcast Keep up with the latest on social media: Instagram, Twitter, Facebook 

We get into allllll the animal metaphors, references to Buddhism and mysticism, and music theory you could ever want. We all agree this is an underrated track in the mewithoutYou catalog, and this episode helps explain why! We got t-shirts! Preorder by 8/31 to get in on our first run of uswithoutThem shirts! Order here. Want more uswithoutThem? Consider supporting us on Patreon! We're offering a number of cool perks including podcast merch, bonus episodes, live episodes, a Discord community, and more! We're prepping for some new perks during the production of Season 4, which will start in Fall 2024! Sign up for our All-Access or VIP tiers by 8/31 to get in on our t-shirt preorder! Check it out here. Please consider rating and reviewing the podcast on Apple, Google, and Spotify! For more info about the podcast, including show notes, short blogs, and host info, visit our website: uswithoutthempod.com Join our Facebook group to keep the conversation going: uswithoutThem Podcast Keep up with the latest on social media: Instagram, Twitter, Facebook 

Not since the instrumental tracks on [A-->B] Life have we spent so much time talking about so little! The Spider Songs are deceptively simple, and the guys try to unpack every little aspect of this first one. We got t-shirts! Preorder by 8/31 to get in on our first run of uswithoutThem shirts! Order here. Want more uswithoutThem? Consider supporting us on Patreon! We're offering a number of cool perks including podcast merch, bonus episodes, live episodes, a Discord community, and more! We're prepping for some new perks during the production of Season 4, which will start in Fall 2024! Sign up for our All-Access or VIP tiers by 8/31 to get in on our t-shirt preorder! Check it out here. Please consider rating and reviewing the podcast on Apple, Google, and Spotify! For more info about the podcast, including show notes, short blogs, and host info, visit our website: uswithoutthempod.com Join our Facebook group to keep the conversation going: uswithoutThem Podcast Keep up with the latest on social media: Instagram, Twitter, Facebook 

Here we go, showin' off again, self-impressed by how well we can start a line of thinking and then jump from thought to thought, interrupting and starting again (music, philosophy, the Bible, music again, more philosophy, maybe some literature) not really at all like the absence of something but more like the inane ramblings of super fans for whom this simply goes on and on and on and-- Grab your black socks and white woolen locks, and join us as we become shadows on the flock! As mentioned in the episode: Lambert the Sheepish Lion (Disney, 1952)   Want more uswithoutThem? Consider supporting us on Patreon! We're offering a number of cool perks including podcast merch, bonus episodes, live episodes, a Discord community, and more! We're prepping for some new perks during the production of Season 4, which will start in Fall 2024! Check it out here. Please consider rating and reviewing the podcast on Apple, Google, and Spotify! For more info about the podcast, including show notes, short blogs, and host info, visit our website: uswithoutthempod.com Join our Facebook group to keep the conversation going: uswithoutThem Podcast Keep up with the latest on social media: Instagram, Twitter, Facebook 

Tornados, parables, medieval music notation, Islam--this episode has it all! Come along with us as we dive into Brother, Sister's second track, "The Dryness and the Rain." Want more uswithoutThem? Consider supporting us on Patreon! We're offering a number of cool perks including podcast merch, bonus episodes, live episodes, a Discord community, and more! We're prepping for some new perks during the production of Season 4, which will start in Fall 2024! Check it out here. Please consider rating and reviewing the podcast on Apple, Google, and Spotify! For more info about the podcast, including show notes, short blogs, and host info, visit our website: uswithoutthempod.com Join our Facebook group to keep the conversation going: uswithoutThem Podcast Keep up with the latest on social media: Instagram, Twitter, Facebook 

In part 2 of our Messes of Men discussion, we finally get past the first verse and into the rest of the track! The guys discuss the philosophy of history, more on mystical experience, what a singularly amazing drummer Rickie Mazzotta is, and how Greg's bass brings something new to the table.  Want more uswithoutThem? Consider supporting us on Patreon! We're offering a number of cool perks including podcast merch, bonus episodes, live episodes, a Discord community, and more! We're prepping for some new perks during the production of Season 4, which will start production in Fall 2024! Check it out here. Please consider rating and reviewing the podcast on Apple, Google, and Spotify! For more info about the podcast, including show notes, short blogs, and host info, visit our website: uswithoutthempod.com Join our Facebook group to keep the conversation going: uswithoutThem Podcast Keep up with the latest on social media: Instagram, Twitter, Facebook 

Let's. Get. INTO IT. Steven, Joel, and Nic dive headfirst into the opening track of Brother, Sister, "Messes of Men," discussing how different this opening track is from the everything that came before it, trying to pin down some of the metaphorical meanings, and looking at the musical composition. We only got through the first verse!! Launch your tiny caravel, and join us as we make acquaintance with the waves. Want more uswithoutThem? Consider supporting us on Patreon! We're offering a number of cool perks including podcast merch, bonus episodes, live episodes, a Discord community, and more! We're prepping for some new perks during the production of Season 4, which will start production in Fall 2024! Check it out here.   Please consider rating and reviewing the podcast on Apple, Google, and Spotify! For more info about the podcast, including show notes, short blogs, and host info, visit our website: uswithoutthempod.com Join our Facebook group to keep the conversation going: uswithoutThem Podcast Keep up with the latest on social media: Instagram, Twitter, Facebook 

We do not exist but faithfully insist Recording from our separate chairs and in each tiny office room Tiring and trying; thankfully no necessary dying! Just chasing the proper metaphor explanations based on all we thought we knew So much meaning to unpack, like a pop on vocal track  Made everything sound...eh, probable? so it all can be undone But our theories still held sway before we wrapped in May So self-assured we taped these talks on tracks in Pro Tools 3.1   The uswithoutThem crew is back for Season 3 on Brother, Sister! The conversations this season were nearly uncontainable. Lots to pull out of these tracks both musically and lyrically. In the opening episode, the guys talk about what was happening musically in 2006 in "underground" music, how mewithoutYou fits into that, what the record means to them, what they're most excited to talk about, potential threads and theories, and So. Much. MORE.   Want more uswithoutThem? Consider supporting us on Patreon! We're offering a number of cool perks including podcast merch, bonus episodes, live episodes, a Discord community, and more! We're prepping for some new perks during the production of Season 4, which will start production in Fall 2024! Check it out here.   Please consider rating and reviewing the podcast on Apple, Google, and Spotify! For more info about the podcast, including show notes, short blogs, and host info, visit our website: uswithoutthempod.com Join our Facebook group to keep the conversation going: uswithoutThem Podcast Keep up with the latest on social media: Instagram, Twitter, Facebook