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Newsday: AI, EHRs, and the Fight Health Systems Can't Ignore with Jacob Hansen

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April 13, 2026: Jacob Hansen, Chief Product and Technology Officer at AvaSure, joins Bill, Drex, and Sarah on Newsday for a conversation about the data governance battles quietly reshaping AI. From who owns AI model improvements derived from a health system's environment to whether EHRs should have control over how that data is used, Jacob pulls no punches. The conversation also tackles the evolving CIO title, the future of computer science careers in an AI-driven world, and why nursing may be one of the most AI-resilient roles in healthcare.

Key Points:

  • 01:07 CIO to CTDO Shift
  • 06:52 Data Ownership and Governance
  • 13:24 AI Transparency and Governance
  • 21:00 Careers and AI Future

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