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Sam and Jesse have a physically distanced chat with legendary television producer Norman Lear (All In The Family, The Jeffersons, One Day At A Time) about Dean Martin (6:27), Frank Sinatra (7:53), Neil Simon (14:34), Phil Rosenthal (16:23), and the magic of Edith Bunker (22:45). Then Jesse tells a bedtime story (24:05).
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