EP 285: Tyler Stableford — Finding More Joy in Climbing, Breaking Plateaus, and Inputs Over Outcomes

Tyler Stableford is a lifelong climber and psychotherapist specializing in trauma resolution and treatment-resistant conditions. We talked about how to find more joy in our climbing, whether high performers are happier, controlling the inputs while releasing attachment to outcomes, what to do with anxiety before we climb, how to break mental plateaus, memory reconsolidation, why self-compassion will help you climb harder, and much more.The Nugget Training Apptraining.thenuggetclimbing.comGet a FREE Finger Strength Testing Session and Customized ReportThe GRINDS Programthenuggetclimbing.com/grindsFREE Finger Training PDFMad Rock (Shoes & Crash Pads)madrock.comUse code “NUGGET10” at checkout for 10% off your next order.Rúngne (Chalk & Apparel)rungne.info/nuggetUse code “PRESEASON" for $100 off + free shipping on the Belay Down Jacket.Become a Patron:patreon.com/thenuggetclimbingShow Notes:  thenuggetclimbing.com/episodes/tyler-stablefordNuggets:(00:00:00) – Intro(00:04:00) – Tyler’s upbringing(00:09:12) – Discipline, joy, & wellness(00:14:38) – Appreciation(00:21:10) – What is your WHY?(00:28:20) – Are high performers happier?(00:31:08) – Will you lose your edge?(00:42:32) – Identity(00:49:07) – Constraints to joy(00:53:39) – Controlling the inputs(00:57:10) – Listening to our intuition(01:07:49) – What CBT is missing(01:11:22) – Memory Reconsolidation(01:21:44) – Self-compassion(01:29:49) – How to mentally break plateaus(01:36:45) – Attachment to progress(01:39:45) – Common stories we tell ourselves(01:42:11) – Two phrases(01:46:07) – What to do with anxiety(01:49:47) – Our egos(01:53:15) – Wrap up

Dr. Jared Vagy returns to the podcast and is joined by three physical therapy students and graduates, Sarah Kremer, Dawson Freeze, and Michael Larson. We talked about three recent articles covering the benefits of seasonality for maximizing climbing performance, rehabbing and preventing common knee injuries while heel hooking, and off-the-wall strength training for climbers. See the show notes for the full articles here.The Nugget Training Apptraining.thenuggetclimbing.comGet a FREE Finger Strength Testing Session and Customized ReportThe GRINDS Programthenuggetclimbing.com/grindsFREE Finger Training PDFRúngne (Chalk & Apparel)rungne.info/nuggetUse code “NUGGET” for 10% off storewide, and use code “SHIPPINGNUGGETS” for free shipping.Mad Rock (Shoes & Crash Pads)madrock.comUse code “NUGGET10” at checkout for 10% off your next order.Become a Patron:patreon.com/thenuggetclimbingShow Notes:  thenuggetclimbing.com/episodes/four-ptsNuggets:(00:00:00) – Intro(00:04:16) – Overview(00:07:52) – Sarah’s topic (the case for taking a break)(00:10:24) – What Sarah’s research process looked like(00:11:22) – Surprises in Sarah’s research process(00:12:35) – Recommendations on when to take time off(00:15:48) – How to sustain stoke(00:18:04) – How climbing ability solidifies over time(00:20:56) – If Sarah did a follow-up study(00:28:38) – Dawson’s topic  (heel hooking and knee injuries)(00:33:22) – Common heel hook injuries(00:35:20) – Go to hip mobility exercises(00:39:00) – Heel hooking warm-ups(00:41:01) – Surprises in Dawson's research(00:43:27) – If Dawson did a follow-up study(00:49:28) – Michael's topic (off the wall strength training)(00:52:10) – How often should climbers weight train(00:55:34) – At what point are you strong enough(01:02:59) – Comparing athletes(01:09:47) – Stability-focused exercises(01:19:18) – Value in taking time off(01:21:19) – Jared's final thoughts

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Adrian Ballinger is a renowned alpinist and mountain guide, and has summited Mt. Everest and K2 without supplemental oxygen. We talked about his childhood, misconceptions about what he does, what climbing Everest is actually like, skiing above 8,000 meters, risking his life to send K2, sending Fall of Man 5.13b, how mountaineering compares to projecting 5.13, meeting his wife Emily Harrington, how performance changes with age, lessons everyone should know, and much more. You can learn more about Adrian at adrianballinger.comMad Rock (Shoes & Crash Pads)madrock.comUse code “NUGGET10” at checkout for 10% off your next order.Rúngne (Chalk & Apparel)rungne.info/nuggetUse code “NUGGET” for 10% off storewide, and use code “SHIPPINGNUGGETS” for free shipping.Chilipad (Don’t Lose Sleep this Summer)Get 20% off any Chilipad sleep systemNADS (Organic Cotton Underwear)Use code STEVEN for 15% offBecome a Patron:patreon.com/thenuggetclimbingShow Notes:  thenuggetclimbing.com/episodes/adrian-ballingerNuggets:(00:00:00) – Intro(00:03:06) – Growing up(00:06:08) – Connecting with adventure as a kid(00:16:08) – Misconceptions about what Adrian does(00:22:04) – Tech breakthroughs in mountaineering(00:26:04) – Client pressure around summits(00:30:04) – Alpenglow Expeditions(00:33:09) – Regulations on Everest(00:35:08) – What climbing Everest is really like(00:41:04) – Climbing Everest without oxygen(00:49:57) – Preparing for Everest without oxygen(00:58:56) – Skiing accolades(01:01:59) – Skiing above 8,000 meters(01:05:00) – Skiing down vs. rappelling massive peaks(01:08:58) – Fall of Man(01:11:01) – Physically hardest climb(01:12:56) – Mental hardest climb(01:14:57) – Most dangerous climb(01:18:01) – Why Adrian took a risk on K2(01:21:01) – Meeting Emily(01:32:45) – What’s left for Adrian in alpinism(01:34:43) – Switching to hard sport climbing(01:46:43) – Bouldering in Rocklands(01:54:42) – Performance changes with age(01:59:42) – Athletes Adrian looks up to(02:02:40) – Lessons everyone should know(02:05:40) – Adrian’s podcast

Kerwin Loukusa lives in Leavenworth, WA, and sent his first V12 and V13 last year while juggling a full-time job, wife, and two young kids. We talked about how he improved his flexibility to send the Freerider in Yosemite, bouldering after having kids, home wall training, the key to building persistent strength, bodyweight manipulation, energy availability, beginner's mind, feeling vs. analysing, weather forecasting hacks, how dew point affects climbing conditions, and much more. A lot of nuggets in this one.The GRINDS Program (FREE Training PDF)thenuggetclimbing.comRúngne (Chalk & Apparel)rungne.info/nuggetUse code “NUGGET” for 10% off storewide, and use code “SHIPPINGNUGGETS” for free shipping.Mad Rock (Shoes & Crash Pads)madrock.comUse code “NUGGET10” at checkout for 10% off your next order.Chilipad (Don’t Lose Sleep this Summer)Get 20% off any Chilipad sleep systemNADS (Organic Cotton Underwear)Use code STEVEN for 15% offBecome a Patron:patreon.com/thenuggetclimbingShow Notes:  thenuggetclimbing.com/episodes/kerwin-loukusaNuggets:(00:00:00) – Intro(00:01:05) – Flexibility journey(00:08:08) – Identifying limiting factors(00:10:38) – Stemming flexibility continued(00:16:39) – Freerider & Father TIme(00:24:15) – Bouldering after kids(00:26:56) – Mountain running & cardio(00:40:00) – Leveling up to V12 and V13(00:48:07) – Home wall training(01:09:54) – Off-the-wall training(01:11:28) – Building persistent strength(01:16:45) – Pillars 1-3: Proximetry, Rest, & Nutrition(01:32:23) – Know yourself(01:35:06) – Bodyweight & energy availability(01:48:13) – Pillar 4: Mindset(02:01:35) – Slingblade V13(02:10:03) – An obsessive brain(02:14:25) – Obstacles & growth(02:20:43) – Don’t get injured(02:23:42) – Slow & steady gains(02:32:46) – Ease into it(02:37:32) – Intuition & beta iteration(02:45:09) – Beginner's mind(02:50:39) – Feeling vs. analyzing(02:54:26) – Power spots(03:00:30) – Weather forecasting(03:18:03) – Dew point(03:22:43) – Cold rock(03:26:36) – Morning climbing(03:38:36) – Upcoming goals(03:40:50) – Mentorship & stewardship(03:46:18) – Public vs. private land

Robb Wolf is a 2x NYT Best-Selling Author (The Paleo Solution, Wired to Eat) and a leading voice in health, fitness, and nutrition. In this short segment, we cover the benefits of Vitamin D and Zone 2 cardio, how to optimize your strength training, Robb’s recent health struggles, and why you should never give up on your health. You can listen to the full episode by searching for Something Different with Steven Dimmitt wherever you get your podcasts.Robb’s Linksrobbwolf.comdrinklmnt.comjoin.thehealthyrebellion.comOther References:The Nugget - EP 80: Robb Wolf (our first podcast)Dminder AppTimestamps:00:00:00 – Intro00:02:30 – Vitamin D00:06:21 – Separating strength & conditioning00:14:58 – Zone 2 cardio00:20:51 – Robb’s training schedule00:24:56 – Recent health issues00:32:46 – Never give up00:34:06 – The Healthy Rebellion00:35:26 – Don’t major in the minors

Eryn Phelps is a licensed trauma counselor who specializes in helping outdoor athletes with anxiety, OCD, and PTSD. We talked about how EMDR helped cancer survivor and podcast guest Sol Wertkin, how to navigate time scarcity and get clear on what you want, overwhelm and panic attacks, grief and shame, labels and identity, and much more.Rúngne (Chalk & Apparel)rungne.info/nuggetUse code “NUGGET” for 10% off storewide, and use code “SHIPPINGNUGGETS” for free shipping.Mad Rock (Shoes & Crash Pads)madrock.comUse code “NUGGET10” at checkout for 10% off your next order.Chilipad (Don’t Lose Sleep this Summer)Get 20% off any Chilipad sleep systemNADS (Organic Cotton Underwear)Use code STEVEN for 15% offBecome a Patron:patreon.com/thenuggetclimbingShow Notes:  thenuggetclimbing.com/episodes/eryn-phelpsNuggets:(00:00:00) – Intro(00:01:26) – Partners(00:05:56) – Sol Wertkin(00:12:54) – EMDR(00:27:19) – Sol continued(00:34:00) – Pity, empathy, & compassion(00:39:15) – Perception & victim mindset(00:54:41) – Preventing negative beliefs from taking root(01:00:08) – Mistakes, guilt, & shame(01:05:21) – Trauma from injury(01:10:21) – Grief(01:15:23) – Accepting risk(01:25:23) – Relationships(01:31:27) – Time scarcity & OCD(01:44:17) – Labels & identity(01:48:58) – Anxiety(01:51:53) – Overwhelm(01:58:39) – Panic attacks(02:04:06) – Curing anxiety, PTSD, & OCD(02:09:28) – Getting clear on what you want(02:24:02) – How Eryn makes decisions(02:26:40) – A grass kinda day(02:29:00) – Where to find Eryn(02:32:11) – Complacency & communication(02:36:44) – Dopamine

Alex Bridgewater (M.S. in Sports Psychology) is back again to share three new sports psychology skills that have the potential to change your climbing forever. We covered how to practice these skills in your day-to-day life, as well as how to put them into practice in your climbing, and much more. Become a Patron to get access to the full episode and support the podcast. *The full version is 1:28:39.patreon.com/thenuggetclimbingAlex’s Other Episodes:EP 276: Alex Bridgewater ReturnsBONUS: Alex BridgewaterNuggets:(00:00:00) – Intro(00:00:58) – Word to the wise(00:05:40) – Three skills overview(00:06:44) – Skill 1: Values-Based Work(00:28:17) – Skill 2: Dropping the Anchor(00:43:32) – Skill 3: Diffusion/Unhooking(01:01:49) – Putting the skills into practice(01:10:23) – What do you want?(01:18:02) – Expectations(01:22:43) – Manhunt(01:24:20) – Feeling vs. thinking

Stevie Hochbaum is an elite boulderer who established the first V16, Obsidian, in Germany. We talked about nearly losing his finger to an infection, how he became obsessed with the project, what it feels like to spend 50+ sessions on a boulder, supportive friends, learning patience, training on the project, how losing weight affected his mental health, pacing and breathing, what’s next for Stevie, and much more.Mad Rock (Shoes & Crash Pads)madrock.comUse code “NUGGET10” at checkout for 10% off your next order.NADS (Organic Cotton Underwear)Use code STEVEN for 15% offRúngne (Chalk & Apparel)rungne.info/nuggetUse code “NUGGET” for 10% off storewide, and use code “SHIPPINGNUGGETS” for free shipping.Chilipad (Don’t Lose Sleep this Summer)Get 20% off any Chilipad sleep systemBecome a Patron:patreon.com/thenuggetclimbingShow Notes:  thenuggetclimbing.com/episodes/stevie-hochbaumNuggets:(00:00:00) – Intro(00:02:01) – Nicknames(00:04:58) – Swollen finger(00:12:24) – The process begins(00:20:47) – Investing everything(00:28:57) – What happens after 15 sessions(00:45:17) – Sending, disorientation, & celebrating(00:52:10) – Supportive friends & learning patience(01:04:16) – The unexpected send(01:09:46) – Training on the project(01:16:32) – Pacing & breathing(01:24:24) – Taking breaks(01:27:35) – Calorie deficit & mental health(01:33:13) – Bodyweight & small crimps(01:41:06) – Veganism(01:49:01) – Choosing our reality(01:53:00) – Inheritance(01:54:26) – What’s next for Stevie(01:57:14) – Dream trips

Rebecca Tickell is an award-winning filmmaker, author, environmental activist, and regenerative farmer. We talked about the journey that led to her films Kiss the Ground and Common Ground, the history of our soil and pesticides, why conventional farming is a cycle of degredation, the corruption of the agrochemical industry, Monsanto whistleblowers, how to feed the world, the global movement of regeneration, how to eat, bees & pollinators, and much more.AirDoctor (Best Rated Air Filters)Get up to $300 off AirDoctorAquaTru (Premium Water Filters)Get $100 off any AquaTru systemSupport the Podcast Directlypatreon.com/somethingdiffpodRebecca’s LinksKiss the GroundCommon GroundGroundswellBEE WILDOther References:The Detox ProjectWhitewash by Carey GillamTimestamps:(00:00:00) – Intro(00:03:07) – The road to regeneration(00:11:51) – Storytelling(00:15:02) – Farmers & desertification(00:18:33) – A brief history of our soil(00:27:11) – Connecting to nature(00:28:48) – Two fun facts(00:30:29) – We don’t eat our food(00:33:26) – Sacrifice zones & human rights(00:38:21) – Glyphosate, wheat, oats, & chickpeas(00:44:47) – The good news(00:46:09) – Monsanto, Bayer, the EPA, & whistleblowers(00:49:36) – Feeding the world(00:56:04) – Soil regeneration(01:02:41) – A global movement(01:14:49) – How to eat(01:23:10) – USDA Organic(01:29:36) – High stakes(01:30:43) – Bees & insects(01:37:39) – Stories of hope(01:38:59) – Rebecca’s dream documentary(01:41:32) – Hopeful