315. TNE RESPONDS: John Mark Comer's "Deconstruction" Doesn’t Check Out

In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, Tim and April discuss various current events affecting Christian culture, including Melania Trump's recent statements on abortion rights, the hypocrisy of pro-life advocates, and the implications of immigration policies. They also delve into the controversial transformation of Russell Brand from a leftist to a right-wing figure, examining the evangelical response to his actions and the inconsistencies within Christian nationalism. The conversation highlights the challenges faced by moderates in the evangelical community and the broader implications for American democracy. Chapters 01:05 Current Events in Christian Culture 06:03 April's Book and Personal Updates 11:50 Melania Trump's Abortion Rights Statement 16:59 The Hypocrisy of Pro-Life Advocates 24:00 The Double Standards in Crime and Immigration 30:08 Debate Coverage and Political Commentary 35:02 The Impact of Hurricane Helene 50:10 The Evangelical Response to Russell Brand 59:57 The Inconsistencies of Christian Nationalism Red Cross: https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation.html/  Trusted Organizations according to FEMA: https://www.nvoad.org/current-members/  FEMA info on best way to help: https://www.fema.gov/disaster/recover/volunteer-donate Order April's Book | Star-Spangled Jesus: Leaving Christian Nationalism and Finding a True Faith _______________________________ REGISTER TO VOTE If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this RECAPS episode, Tim critiques John Mark Comer’s views on deconstruction, exploring the complexities and nuances of faith transformation. Tim argues that deconstruction is often mischaracterized and emphasizes the need for understanding the cultural and political contexts that influence faith journeys. He reflects on the legacy of white evangelicalism, its shortcomings, and the importance of advocating for marginalized communities. The conversation highlights personal experiences of deconstruction and the quest for a more inclusive faith. Clip of John Mark Comer Chapters 01:02 Getting into John Mark Comer's "Deconstruction" 06:08 Understanding Deconstruction: Perspectives and Mischaracterizations 11:52 The Impact of Cultural and Political Context on Faith 17:58 The Legacy of White Evangelicalism and Its Critique 24:06 Personal Reflections on Deconstruction and Acceptance _______________________________ REGISTER TO VOTE If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this TALKS episode, host Tim interviews April Ajoy about her book 'Star Spangled Jesus: Leaving Christian Nationalism and Finding True Faith.' They discuss April's journey from a deeply rooted Christian nationalist background to a more inclusive and empathetic faith. The conversation explores the intersections of theology, politics, and personal experiences, highlighting the challenges of deconstructing fundamentalist beliefs and embracing a more expansive understanding of faith. April shares her personal stories, the impact of her father's death, and the importance of empathy in navigating the complexities of faith and identity. Chapters 02:54 April's Journey: From Christian Nationalism to True Faith 17:57 The Cracks in Fundamentalism: Personal Stories and Experiences 40:27 Empathy vs. Dogma: Navigating the Christian Landscape 49:20 Conclusion: Understanding Christian Nationalism and Its Impact Pre-Order April's Book | Star-Spangled Jesus: Leaving Christian Nationalism and Finding a True Faith ___________________________________ REGISTER TO VOTE If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this RECAPS episode, Tim and April discuss various topics surrounding Christian nationalism, including the recent execution of Marcellus Williams, the implications of the death penalty, and the disconnect between Christian values and political actions. They also touch on the influence of figures like Franklin Graham and the cultural commentary surrounding the evangelical community's stance on social issues. The conversation highlights the complexities and contradictions within Christian nationalism, emphasizing the need for a more compassionate and just approach to faith and politics. Chapters 11:47 In-Person Event Recap and Personal Confessions 12:46 Discussion on Marcellus Williams Case 20:04 Christian Nationalism and the Death Penalty 30:12 The Role of Authority in Christian Nationalism 41:32 The Disconnect in Christian Nationalist Values 46:18 Franklin Graham and Political Endorsements 01:01:10 Cultural Commentary on Christian Nationalism 01:36:36 Conclusion and Upcoming Events Pre-Order April's Book | Star-Spangled Jesus: Leaving Christian Nationalism and Finding a True Faith _______________________________ REGISTER TO VOTE If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, Tim reflects on his experience at the Test of Faith summit, which focused on defending democracy and countering Christian nationalism. He shares insights from various Christian leaders who advocate for inclusivity, social justice, and a more compassionate interpretation of Christian teachings. Tim contrasts the messages from this summit with those from Christian nationalist events, emphasizing the importance of love, justice, and community in the Christian faith. Faith & Democracy | faithanddemocracy.net Test of Faith Summit | testoffaith.org Episode 204 | America Fest: What You Need to Know Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the New Evangelicals Podcast 00:34 Experiencing the Test of Faith Summit 06:09 The Power of Progressive Christian Voices 10:19 The Christian Alternative to Nationalism 12:16 Contrasting Christian Nationalism and Democratic Values _______________________________ REGISTER TO VOTE If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, host Tim engages in a profound conversation with Latasha Morrison, founder of Be The Bridge. They explore Morrison's journey from her upbringing in a diverse community to her pivotal role in addressing systemic racism within predominantly white evangelical spaces. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the New Evangelicals Podcast 01:50 Latasha Morrison: A Journey of Bridge Building 04:18 The Role of Diversity in Faith Communities 08:05 Personal Background and the Impact of Evangelicalism 19:41 The Birth of Be The Bridge 26:55 Navigating the Challenges of White Evangelical Spaces 39:12 The Importance of Truth in Racial Conversations 52:10 Hope and Change in Political Landscapes 01:03:21 Practical Steps for White Allies in Racial Justice Latasha's Website | latashamorrison.com _______________________________ Come to the LIVE EVENT in Austin, TX | Democracy at Risk REGISTER TO VOTE If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, Tim and April discuss various topics related to the intersection of Christianity and politics, including Tim's recent experiences in Washington D.C., the impact of political violence, gun control, and the rhetoric surrounding immigration. They also delve into the implications of right-wing extremism, particularly focusing on figures like Laura Loomer and the narratives that fuel anti-immigrant sentiment. The conversation highlights the disconnect between right-wing media narratives and reality, emphasizing the need for accountability and truth in political discourse. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the New Evangelicals Podcast 02:58 Tim's Experience in Washington D.C. 06:12 The Glory Bus and Vocal Rest 09:01 Tim's Transition from Music to Podcasting 14:57 Gun Control and Political Rhetoric 20:12 The Role of Rhetoric in Political Violence 29:06 Immigration and Anti-Immigrant Sentiment 34:05 The Impact of False Narratives on Communities 42:08 The Role of Deception in Politics 51:06 Tweets of the Week and Cultural Commentary 55:50 Conclusion and Call to Action Pre-Order April's Book | Star-Spangled Jesus: Leaving Christian Nationalism and Finding a True Faith _______________________________ Come to the LIVE EVENT in Austin, TX | Democracy at Risk REGISTER TO VOTE If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, host Tim engages in a deep conversation with Tripp Fuller about Dietrich Bonhoeffer, his theological journey, and the misuse of his legacy by modern Christian nationalists. They explore Bonhoeffer's resistance to the Nazi regime, the role of the church during that time, and the implications for today's political climate, particularly in relation to the rise of authoritarianism and the rhetoric of figures like Eric Metaxas. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding history to navigate current challenges in faith and society. In this conversation, Tim and Tripp explore the intersections of culture, politics, and faith, particularly focusing on the role of the church in contemporary society. They discuss the misuse of historical figures like Bonhoeffer in modern evangelical rhetoric, the cultural comparisons made by political figures, and the implications of a persecution complex within white evangelicalism. The dialogue emphasizes the need for a re-evaluation of faith that prioritizes love and justice over political power, advocating for a 'religionless Christianity' that aligns with the teachings of Christ. Highlights: 01:01 Understanding Dietrich Bonhoeffer 12:50 The Rise of Christian Nationalism 26:49 The Role of the Church in Nazi Germany 39:08 Bonhoeffer's Legacy and Modern Implications 54:56 Eric Metaxas and Misinterpretation of Bonhoeffer 01:01:45 Cultural Comparisons and Historical Contexts 01:04:11 The Role of the Church in Society 01:10:52 Bonhoeffer's Legacy and Misinterpretations 01:16:28 The Misuse of Historical Analogies 01:25:11 The Persecution Complex in Evangelicalism 01:30:05 The Contradictions of White Evangelicalism 01:35:17 Bonhoeffer's Transformation and the Call to Action 01:40:52 The Invitation to a New Understanding of Faith _______________________________ Come to the LIVE EVENT in Austin, TX | Democracy at Risk REGISTER TO VOTE If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Tim interviews Jonathan Wilson Hartgrove, a spiritual writer, preacher, and community cultivator. They discuss how Christians can engage differently in politics and civic engagement, particularly in relation to Christian nationalism. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Overview 02:19 Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove's Background and Journey 08:01 Realizing the Disconnect Between Faith and Politics 13:00 Rethinking Traditional Christian Narratives 19:14 Understanding the Influence of Propaganda 21:01 Finding Common Ground and Avoiding Demonization 25:07 The Importance of Democracy and the Common Good 27:46 The Dangers of Christian Nationalism and Idolatry 34:31 Resisting Christian Nationalism and Building a Better Christianity 42:06 Engaging in Political Advocacy and Voting for the Common Good 52:30 The Poor People's Campaign: Addressing Poverty and Inequality Jonathan's Website | jonathanwilsonhartgrove.com Looking to get involved? | poorpeoplescampaign.org _______________________________ Come to the LIVE EVENT in Austin, TX | Democracy at Risk REGISTER TO VOTE If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, hosts Tim and April recap the latest happenings in Christian culture, focusing on the recent debates between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. They discuss the implications of Christian nationalism in politics, the spread of misinformation, and the role of conspiracies in shaping public opinion. The conversation highlights the importance of fact-checking and the need for accountability within the evangelical community while also calling listeners to engage in the political process and vote. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the New Evangelicals Podcast 10:01 Debate Recap: Biden vs. Trump 19:54 Kamala Harris vs. Trump: A Night and Day Comparison 30:10 Fact-Checking the Debate: Truth vs. Lies 39:55 The Role of Christian Nationalism in Politics 49:46 Conspiracies and Misinformation in the Right-Wing Sphere 01:00:14 The Impact of Evangelicalism on American Politics 01:10:10 Closing Thoughts and Call to Action _______________________________ Come to the LIVE EVENT in Austin, TX | Democracy at Risk REGISTER TO VOTE If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices