
1195: Javier Leiva | Modern Romance Scam Tactics and Ways to Fight Back
8/12/2025
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Beyond catfishing, romance scammers are moving in with victims and rewriting wills. Here, Pretend Podcast host Javier Leiva exposes their new playbook.
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What We Discuss with Javier Leiva:
- Romance scams are so common that identical fake stories (architect in Indonesia, talking to Johnny Depp) are used with thousands of victims simultaneously, making them seem like urban legends.
- Scammers target vulnerable people by checking boxes: isolated from family, cognitive decline, terminal illness, government pension, loneliness. More boxes = bigger mark.
- Advanced scammers move in with victims, become caregivers, get named as estate executors, then move on to victim's elderly relatives when the person dies.
- Damage goes beyond money — victims often become unable to trust again and avoid relationships entirely, while family stress affects everyone for years.
- Watch for red flags: excessive early generosity, isolating behavior, urgent requests bypassing reasoning, password/financial access requests, sob stories. Trust family concerns.
- And much more...
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