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Tom Steyer’s Very Expensive Optimism

6/6/2026
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In this Saturday archive edition of The Gist, Mike asks the question on everyone’s mind, or at least Tom Steyer’s: is Tom Steyer back? With Steyer rising in the California gubernatorial primary, Mike revisits his 2019 reaction to Steyer’s presidential campaign launch, including the ads, the impeachment crusade, and the camera angles nobody asked for. Then, a later interview with Steyer on Cheaper, Faster, Better: How We’ll Win the Climate War. Steyer argues that climate progress will come not from guilt or sacrifice, but from technologies that beat fossil fuels in the marketplace. Mike presses him on EV adoption, continued oil drilling, China’s lead in electric cars, carbon sequestration, and whether climate doomerism has hurt the cause. Plus: The Usual Suspects, American Pie, and the investor case for optimism.

 

Produced by Corey Wara

Edited by Geoff Craig

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