Why Intentional Strategy Is Your Greatest Asset When Divorcing in a Volatile Economy with Leah Hadley on Divorce & Beyond #387

This week on Divorce & Beyond, we're doing something a little different, and something truly special. We’re honored to share the premiere episode of Season 4 of the Intentional Divorce Insights podcast, hosted by Certified Divorce Financial Analyst and Accredited Financial Counselor, Leah Hadley. If you caught Monday’s episode with Leah on Divorce & Beyond®, you already know what a valuable and grounded voice she brings to the complex financial realities of divorce today. In this solo episode, Leah takes us deeper, sharing the personal story and values that inspire her work and fuel her mission to support those navigating divorce with clarity, confidence, and compassion. You’ll hear: How Leah’s mother shaped her approach to money, reinvention, and resilience The five pillars of Leah’s Intentional Money Method A powerful reminder that it’s never too late to grow, shift paths, or start fresh The importance of building financial freedom intentionally, especially in times of transition Whether you’re facing divorce, considering a new direction in life, or simply looking to feel more empowered around your finances, this episode offers wisdom, warmth, and a clear next step.  Be sure to listen to our Monday conversation with Leah if you haven’t already, where we dig into what recent economic shifts mean for your divorce strategy in 2025 and beyond.  Here’s the link: https://divorcebeyond.com/Leah-Hadley   And if you’re over 50 and contemplating divorce, don’t miss Leah’s free upcoming webinar: Divorce After 50: Protecting Your Retirement and Securing Your Future. Details and Registration link here: https://www.greatlakesdfs.com/divorce-after-50   More About Leah Hadley: Leah is the founder of Intentional Divorce Solutions and Intentional Wealth Partners. She’s a nationally recognized financial expert, author, speaker, and host of Intentional Divorce Insights. With a background in both education and finance, Leah is passionate about helping people make thoughtful, values-aligned financial decisions, especially during life’s most challenging transitions. 🔗 Learn more and connect with Leah at https://www.greatlakesdfs.com 🎧 Subscribe to Intentional Divorce Insights wherever you get your podcasts or click here: https://www.greatlakesdfs.com/podcasts/intentional-divorce-insights

Susan Guthrie welcomes accredited financial counselor and CDFA® Leah Hadley to explore the changing financial landscape of divorce in today’s unpredictable economy. From rising healthcare costs to a volatile housing market and shifting tax laws, the economic realities of 2025 are reshaping how couples need to approach divorce settlements. Leah shares how thoughtful financial planning, strategic modeling, and expert guidance can help protect your long-term stability, especially if you're divorcing later in life. If you’re navigating divorce in this climate, this episode offers timely, essential insights to help you negotiate smarter and move forward with confidence. You'll hear: The truth about healthcare costs and how subsidy cuts may affect you How to plan for (and afford) health insurance post-divorce How housing market trends are shifting common divorce strategies Tips for reducing stress and avoiding costly financial mistakes The top mistake people divorcing after 50 make and how to avoid it More About Our Special Guest, Leah Hadley, AFC®, CDFA®, MAFF® As the Founder of Intentional Divorce Solutions (formerly known as Great Lakes Divorce Financial Solutions) and Intentional Wealth Partners. Leah Hadley is committed to guiding clients to financial independence through thoughtful and strategic planning. An influential voice in the financial community, Leah is a sought-after speaker and expert in overcoming financial setbacks and navigating the financial complexities of divorce. She's a frequent guest on podcasts and has contributed her insights to numerous books and online platforms. Leah is also the author of "When It's Just Not Working: A Practical Divorce Guide for Stay-At-Home Moms." At the heart of her practice, Leah finds genuine satisfaction in empowering her clients to achieve their most heartfelt financial goals.  In her leisure time, she enjoys reading, hiking, and spending quality time with her husband, three children, and three dogs.   Websites: Intentional Divorce Insights Podcast https://www.greatlakesdfs.com/podcasts/intentional-divorce-insights FREE WEBINAR: If you’re over 50 and contemplating divorce, don’t miss Leah’s free upcoming webinar: Divorce After 50: Protecting Your Retirement and Securing Your Future. https://www.greatlakesdfs.com/divorce-after-50   https://www.greatlakesdfs.com https://www.watchherthrive.co Social Media:  http://instagram.com/watchherthrive https://www.linkedin.com/in/leahhadley Also referenced in this episode: Divorcing in 2025: The High Cost of Uncertainty on Divorce Take the Most of Your Listening Experience: If this episode resonates with you, be sure to: Subscribe to Divorce & Beyond so you never miss an episode. Share this episode with friends or loved ones who need hope and healing. Leave a 5-star review to help us reach even more listeners. Follow Us Online: Divorce & Beyond:  https://divorceandbeyondpod.com, IG: @divorceandbeyond MEET OUR CREATOR AND HOST: SUSAN GUTHRIE®, ESQ., the creator and host of The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast, has been nationally recognized as one of the top family law and divorce mediation attorneys in the country for more than 35 years.  Susan is the Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution and is a sought-after keynote speaker, business and practice consultant, coach and trainer. You can find out more about Susan and her services here: https://susaneguthrie.com Divorce & Beyond is a Top 1% Overall and Top 100 Self-Help podcast designed to help you with all you need to know to navigate your divorce journey and most importantly, to thrive in your beautiful beyond!   ***************************************************************************** SPONSOR SPOTLIGHT: HELLO FRESH HelloFresh is now a proud sponsor of Divorce & Beyond! If you’ve been thinking about cutting back on grocery bills, avoiding food waste, or just getting dinner on the table without the stress — this is your moment, because right now, HelloFresh is offering one free item in every box — for life! That’s right — every single box you order includes a free item, forever. And just to give you a taste of what that looks like... I got pineapple upside-down cakes in my first order! I originally discovered HelloFresh during the pandemic and fell in love with learning new recipes and expanding our dinner routine. I let it go for a while — hey, I live in Chicago with world-class restaurants on every corner — but with today’s rising costs, HelloFresh is back on my table, and I’m so glad it is. So if you’re ready to save time, money, and dinner — go to divorceandbeyond.com/hellofresh and sign up today to grab that free item for life. ***************** YUMIYU Jewelry YUMIYU Jewelry is Susan’s favorite source for meaningful, handcrafted jewelry designed to empower women and celebrate individuality. Each piece is made with care, using high-quality materials like real gold and vermeil, and is water-resistant, non-tarnish, and hypoallergenic. During difficult times, like divorce, wearing a symbol of hope or protection—such as a hamsa or an evil eye—can be a comforting reminder to keep the faith and stay strong. As a special gift to my listeners, YUMIYU Jewelry is offering 20% off your purchase! Use the code "BEYOND" at checkout to claim your discount. Explore their stunning collection at yumiyujewelry.com and find your perfect piece today! Link: https://divorcebeyond.com/YUMIYU  Code: “BEYOND” for 20% off! ***************************************************************************** SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE! If you would like to sponsor the show and reach our large community of those going through and healing from divorce, please reach out to us at  [email protected] for pricing and details!!! ***************************************************************************** DISCLAIMER:  THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL ADVICE.  YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.

Have you found yourself wondering, “What do I do first when I find out I’m getting divorced?" In this solo episode, top family law expert and mediator Susan Guthrie introduces the concept of Divorce Triage: a clear, strategic approach to navigating those overwhelming first days of divorce. Whether you’re the one who’s decided to file or you’ve just been hit with the news, knowing who to call first (and why) can make all the difference. Divorce isn't one-size-fits-all. And the first steps you take can shape your entire journey. This episode helps you figure out where to begin based on your unique circumstances so you can avoid costly missteps. With more than 30 years of experience as a family law attorney and mediator, Susan walks you through how to stabilize your emotional, financial, and legal footing so you can move forward with strength and strategy, not panic. What You’ll Discover In This Episode: Why your “first call” might not be an attorney and how to know who to call first How to navigate emotional trauma after infidelity, financial betrayal, or a surprise divorce request The key players on your divorce team, attorney, mediator, coach, therapist, CDFA, and when to bring them in Why too many outside opinions can cause confusion, not clarity Susan’s #1 piece of advice if you’re unsure where to start Take the Most of Your Listening Experience: If this episode resonates with you, be sure to: Subscribe to Divorce & Beyond so you never miss an episode. Share this episode with friends or loved ones who need hope and healing. Leave a 5-star review to help us reach even more listeners. Follow Us Online: Divorce & Beyond:  https://divorceandbeyondpod.com, IG: @divorceandbeyond MEET OUR CREATOR AND HOST: SUSAN GUTHRIE®, ESQ., the creator and host of The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast, has been nationally recognized as one of the top family law and divorce mediation attorneys in the country for more than 30 years.  Susan is the Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution and is a sought-after keynote speaker, business and practice consultant, coach and trainer. You can find out more about Susan and her services here: https://susaneguthrie.com Divorce & Beyond is a Top 1% Overall and Top 100 Self-Help podcast designed to help you with all you need to know to navigate your divorce journey and most importantly, to thrive in your beautiful beyond!   ***************************************************************************** SPONSOR SPOTLIGHT: HEADSPACE Hello, Divorce & Beyond family! We've teamed up with Headspace to guide you towards better mental health. With Headspace's meditation, mindfulness tools, and mental health support, you're set for a happier, healthier you. Sign up through our exclusive link for free two weeks of Headspace membership. Don't miss out on this opportunity to embrace well-being. ***************** YUMIYU Jewelry YUMIYU Jewelry is Susan’s favorite source for meaningful, handcrafted jewelry designed to empower women and celebrate individuality. Each piece is made with care, using high-quality materials like real gold and vermeil, and is water-resistant, non-tarnish, and hypoallergenic. During difficult times, like divorce, wearing a symbol of hope or protection—such as a hamsa or an evil eye—can be a comforting reminder to keep the faith and stay strong. As a special gift to my listeners, YUMIYU Jewelry is offering 20% off your purchase! Use the code "BEYOND" at checkout to claim your discount. Explore their stunning collection at yumiyujewelry.com and find your perfect piece today! Link: https://divorcebeyond.com/YUMIYU  Code: “BEYOND” for 20% off! ***************************************************************************** SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE! If you would like to sponsor the show and reach our large community of those going through and healing from divorce, please reach out to us at  [email protected] for pricing and details!!! ***************************************************************************** DISCLAIMER:  THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL ADVICE.  YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.

When divorce and entrepreneurship collide, things get complicated - fast. The emotional, financial, and legal entanglements are real, and one wrong move could cost you big. To help us navigate these divorce danger zones, Susan Guthrie welcomes Gabriella Martinelli to the show. Gabriella is a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst® and the founder of Ever After Wealth®, bringing over two decades of experience, including 16 years working closely with top family law attorneys. She’s worked with countless business owners to protect their financial futures through even the most complex divorces. She’s also the host of the new podcast Divorce and Money, where she shares no-nonsense financial strategies to help you feel informed and empowered around the money side of divorce. And yes, she brings that same clarity to this conversation. Whether you’re the business owner or divorcing one, Gabriella unpacks exactly what can go wrong when business finances are intertwined with personal ones, why it matters, and what you can do before things spiral. From messy bookkeeping to emotional attachment and sudden income deficit disorder, this episode gets into the real-world complications and how to avoid them. What You’ll Discover in This Episode: Why divorcing with a business is a “whole new level of hell” How emotional attachment to a business can cloud financial decisions Why running personal expenses through your business is a divorce disaster What to do now if you think divorce may be on the horizon How to avoid costly mistakes, distrust, and tax trouble down the line The power of financial clarity and when to bring in a CDFA® to support your team More About Our Special Guest, Gabriella Martinelli: Gabriella Martinelli is a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst® (CDFA®) and founder of Ever After Wealth®. With 21 years of experience in divorce finance, including 16 working alongside top attorneys, Gabriella helps individuals and professionals navigate the financial complexities of divorce with clarity and confidence. She makes complex financial topics easy to understand, offering real-world strategies that empower listeners to take control of their financial future. If you want more of Gabriella’s straight-shooting advice, be sure to check out her new podcast, Divorce and Money, available now on all major platforms. Website: https://www.everafterwealth.com Contact: gabriella(at)everafterwealth.com Social Media:  https://www.linkedin.com/company/everafterwealth https://www.instagram.com/everafterwealth/ https://www.facebook.com/EverAfterWealth/ Take the Most of Your Listening Experience: If this episode resonates with you, be sure to: Subscribe to Divorce & Beyond so you never miss an episode. Share this episode with friends or loved ones who need hope and healing. Leave a 5-star review to help us reach even more listeners. Follow Us Online: Divorce & Beyond:  https://divorceandbeyondpod.com, IG: @divorceandbeyond MEET OUR CREATOR AND HOST: SUSAN GUTHRIE®, ESQ., the creator and host of The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast, has been nationally recognized as one of the top family law and divorce mediation attorneys in the country for more than 30 years.  Susan is the Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution and is a sought-after keynote speaker, business and practice consultant, coach and trainer. You can find out more about Susan and her services here: https://susaneguthrie.com Divorce & Beyond is a Top 1% Overall and Top 100 Self-Help podcast designed to help you with all you need to know to navigate your divorce journey and most importantly, to thrive in your beautiful beyond!   ***************************************************************************** SPONSOR SPOTLIGHT: HELLO FRESH HelloFresh is now a proud sponsor of Divorce & Beyond! If you’ve been thinking about cutting back on grocery bills, avoiding food waste, or just getting dinner on the table without the stress — this is your moment, because right now, HelloFresh is offering one free item in every box — for life! That’s right — every single box you order includes a free item, forever. And just to give you a taste of what that looks like... I got pineapple upside-down cakes in my first order! I originally discovered HelloFresh during the pandemic and fell in love with learning new recipes and expanding our dinner routine. I let it go for a while — hey, I live in Chicago with world-class restaurants on every corner — but with today’s rising costs, HelloFresh is back on my table, and I’m so glad it is. So if you’re ready to save time, money, and dinner — go to divorceandbeyond.com/hellofresh and sign up today to grab that free item for life. ***************** YUMIYU Jewelry YUMIYU Jewelry is Susan’s favorite source for meaningful, handcrafted jewelry designed to empower women and celebrate individuality. Each piece is made with care, using high-quality materials like real gold and vermeil, and is water-resistant, non-tarnish, and hypoallergenic. During difficult times, like divorce, wearing a symbol of hope or protection—such as a hamsa or an evil eye—can be a comforting reminder to keep the faith and stay strong. As a special gift to my listeners, YUMIYU Jewelry is offering 20% off your purchase! Use the code "BEYOND" at checkout to claim your discount. Explore their stunning collection at yumiyujewelry.com and find your perfect piece today! Link: https://divorcebeyond.com/YUMIYU  Code: “BEYOND” for 20% off! ***************************************************************************** SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE! If you would like to sponsor the show and reach our large community of those going through and healing from divorce, please reach out to us at  [email protected] for pricing and details!!! ***************************************************************************** DISCLAIMER:  THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL ADVICE.  YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.

Susan Guthrie is back with a solo episode to unpack how today’s economic instability is reshaping every stage of divorce. We are living in uncertain times: rising inflation, interest rates that won’t budge, increased job losses and layoffs, and even potential cuts to government programs like Medicare and Medicaid. All of this uncertainty affects how divorce unfolds, from spousal support to housing and healthcare. In this episode, Susan walks you through the key financial and legal challenges divorcing couples are facing right now and explains how to protect yourself and your family as you navigate your divorce.  Whether you're in the early stages or mid-process, this is a must-listen conversation to help you think ahead, protect yourself, and prepare. What You’ll Discover in This Episode: How to stay financially agile when the economy throws curveballs like layoffs, pay cuts, and high inflation Smart ways to adapt when real estate is frozen and interest rates make buying or selling a home difficult Why it’s worth revisiting your parenting plan to include contingencies for job changes, relocations, and shifting schedules What you need to know about potential Medicare and Medicaid cuts, and how to start exploring alternative healthcare options How to future-proof your divorce strategy by auditing your financial benefits and modeling different outcomes with a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst ✨ Download Susan’s Divorce Financial Prep Checklist  Take the Most of Your Listening Experience: If this episode resonates with you, be sure to: Subscribe to Divorce & Beyond so you never miss an episode. Share this episode with friends or loved ones who need hope and healing. Leave a 5-star review to help us reach even more listeners. Follow Us Online: Divorce & Beyond:  https://divorceandbeyondpod.com, IG: @divorceandbeyond MEET OUR CREATOR AND HOST: SUSAN GUTHRIE®, ESQ., the creator and host of The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast, has been nationally recognized as one of the top family law and divorce mediation attorneys in the country for more than 30 years.  Susan is the Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution and is a sought-after keynote speaker, business and practice consultant, coach and trainer. You can find out more about Susan and her services here: https://susaneguthrie.com Divorce & Beyond is a Top 1% Overall and Top 100 Self-Help podcast designed to help you with all you need to know to navigate your divorce journey and most importantly, to thrive in your beautiful beyond!   ***************************************************************************** SPONSOR SPOTLIGHT: HELLO FRESH HelloFresh is now a proud sponsor of Divorce & Beyond! If you’ve been thinking about cutting back on grocery bills, avoiding food waste, or just getting dinner on the table without the stress — this is your moment, because right now, HelloFresh is offering one free item in every box — for life! That’s right — every single box you order includes a free item, forever. And just to give you a taste of what that looks like... I got pineapple upside-down cakes in my first order! I originally discovered HelloFresh during the pandemic and fell in love with learning new recipes and expanding our dinner routine. I let it go for a while — hey, I live in Chicago with world-class restaurants on every corner — but with today’s rising costs, HelloFresh is back on my table, and I’m so glad it is. So if you’re ready to save time, money, and dinner — go to divorceandbeyond.com/hellofresh and sign up today to grab that free item for life. ***************** YUMIYU Jewelry YUMIYU Jewelry is Susan’s favorite source for meaningful, handcrafted jewelry designed to empower women and celebrate individuality. Each piece is made with care, using high-quality materials like real gold and vermeil, and is water-resistant, non-tarnish, and hypoallergenic. During difficult times, like divorce, wearing a symbol of hope or protection—such as a hamsa or an evil eye—can be a comforting reminder to keep the faith and stay strong. As a special gift to my listeners, YUMIYU Jewelry is offering 20% off your purchase! Use the code "BEYOND" at checkout to claim your discount. Explore their stunning collection at yumiyujewelry.com and find your perfect piece today! Link: https://divorcebeyond.com/YUMIYU  Code: “BEYOND” for 20% off! ***************************************************************************** SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE! If you would like to sponsor the show and reach our large community of those going through and healing from divorce, please reach out to us at  [email protected] for pricing and details!!! ***************************************************************************** DISCLAIMER:  THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL ADVICE.  YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.

Dr. Justine Weber joins Susan Guthrie to share what it really looks like to navigate a relationship with someone who exhibits narcissistic or high-conflict behavior - from the moment someone starts questioning things to the long road of healing on the other side. Together, Susan and Justine walk through the five stages of divorcing a narcissist, from the first signs of doubt to post-divorce healing. Whether a listener is thinking about leaving, stuck in the thick of it, or still reeling years after the divorce, Justine offers insights for every stage. As both a therapist and coach, she’s helped countless individuals move from confusion and survival mode to clarity and stability. Susan and Justine explore what it means to leave strategically, how to stay safe and grounded, and why documenting behavior, no matter how small, can be one of the most important steps a person can take. Justine also shares guidance on supporting children through the chaos and what it takes to rebuild life after abuse. This episode is a reminder that no one has to do it alone, and they shouldn’t. Justine’s tips, contact information, and downloadable resource are all linked in the show notes. What You’ll Discover in This Episode: Document everything - privately and securely - to stay grounded and protect yourself. Don’t leave impulsively. Build a plan, gather support, and consult professionals first. Ask attorneys about handling manipulation, not labels like “narcissist.” Be the calm, safe parent your kids can count on—listen, don’t gaslight. Healing is possible, but you can’t do it alone. Support and strategy make all the difference. More About Our Special Guest, Justine Weber:  Justine Weber is a licensed clinical psychologist, author, and coach. Justine is dedicated to helping individuals heal, grow and find meaning in life. Justine has a unique specialty in helping people heal and thrive from narcissistic relationships and break free from life’s dysfunctional barriers. With years of experience in providing therapy, Justine is known for her authentic and empathic approach, fostering growth. Beyond relationship healing, Justine specializes in helping those who feel stuck in life, unable to move forward. She empowers individuals to harness the energy of fear as a catalyst for transformation—shifting from a place of stagnation to a life of growth and fulfillment. Through targeted strategies, she helps reframe limiting beliefs into motivating perspectives, allowing individuals to recognize their potential and embrace meaningful change. Her commitment to creating a supportive and transformative space enables clients to break free from dysfunctional patterns, develop self-awareness, and step into a thriving, purpose-driven life. If you are ready to move beyond fear, overcome limiting beliefs, and cultivate a life of meaning and success, Justine is here to guide you every step of the way. Grab the Five Stages of Healing - Free Download from Dr. Justine Weber Websites: http://sereneshift.com and drjustineweber.com Book: How the F*ck Do I Heal from This?: Understanding Narcissistic Abuse and how to Put Your Life Back Together  Social Media:  https://www.instagram.com/drjustineweber/ https://www.tiktok.com/@drjustineweber http://facebook.com/drjustineweberhealing ***************************************************************************** Also Mentioned in This Episode: The Incredible Tale of One Mom’s Successful 10-Year Battle to Be Free of a Narcissist with Tina Swithin  Domestic Abuse Part Two: Turning the Focus to Post-Separation Abuse with Dr. Christine Cocchiola Take the Most of Your Listening Experience: If this episode resonates with you, be sure to: Subscribe to Divorce & Beyond so you never miss an episode. Share this episode with friends or loved ones who need hope and healing. Leave a 5-star review to help us reach even more listeners. Follow Us Online: Divorce & Beyond:  https://divorceandbeyondpod.com, IG: @divorceandbeyond MEET OUR CREATOR AND HOST: SUSAN GUTHRIE®, ESQ., the creator and host of The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast, has been nationally recognized as one of the top family law and divorce mediation attorneys in the country for more than 30 years.  Susan is the Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution and is a sought-after keynote speaker, business and practice consultant, coach and trainer. You can find out more about Susan and her services here: https://susaneguthrie.com Divorce & Beyond is a Top 1% Overall and Top 100 Self-Help podcast designed to help you with all you need to know to navigate your divorce journey and most importantly, to thrive in your beautiful beyond!   ***************************************************************************** SPONSOR SPOTLIGHT: HELLO FRESH HelloFresh is now a proud sponsor of Divorce & Beyond! If you’ve been thinking about cutting back on grocery bills, avoiding food waste, or just getting dinner on the table without the stress — this is your moment, because right now, HelloFresh is offering one free item in every box — for life! That’s right — every single box you order includes a free item, forever. And just to give you a taste of what that looks like... I got pineapple upside-down cakes in my first order! I originally discovered HelloFresh during the pandemic and fell in love with learning new recipes and expanding our dinner routine. I let it go for a while — hey, I live in Chicago with world-class restaurants on every corner — but with today’s rising costs, HelloFresh is back on my table, and I’m so glad it is. So if you’re ready to save time, money, and dinner — go to divorceandbeyond.com/hellofresh and sign up today to grab that free item for life. ***************** YUMIYU Jewelry YUMIYU Jewelry is Susan’s favorite source for meaningful, handcrafted jewelry designed to empower women and celebrate individuality. Each piece is made with care, using high-quality materials like real gold and vermeil, and is water-resistant, non-tarnish, and hypoallergenic. During difficult times, like divorce, wearing a symbol of hope or protection—such as a hamsa or an evil eye—can be a comforting reminder to keep the faith and stay strong. As a special gift to my listeners, YUMIYU Jewelry is offering 20% off your purchase! Use the code "BEYOND" at checkout to claim your discount. Explore their stunning collection at yumiyujewelry.com and find your perfect piece today! Link: https://divorcebeyond.com/YUMIYU  Code: “BEYOND” for 20% off! ***************************************************************************** SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE! If you would like to sponsor the show and reach our large community of those going through and healing from divorce, please reach out to us at  [email protected] for pricing and details!!! ***************************************************************************** DISCLAIMER:  THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL ADVICE.  YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.

Social media can be an incredible space for support and connection, but when it comes to divorce, it’s also packed with advice that sounds empowering but can actually do real damage. In this solo episode, Susan Guthrie breaks down some of the most viral (and misleading) divorce tips making the rounds on TikTok, Instagram, and beyond. And, shares what you really need to know instead. With more than 35 years of experience as a top divorce attorney and mediator, Susan cuts through the noise to expose what’s myth and what’s smart strategy. Whether it’s the temptation of a $99 DIY divorce, the urge to vent online, or slapping labels on your ex, Susan helps you sidestep the traps and make choices that truly support your future. What You’ll Discover in This Episode: Why even friendly divorces need legal review, because templates aren’t enough The real risks of social media announcements and glow-up posts Why labeling your ex a narcissist can backfire in court How hiding assets + oversharing on social media can blow up your entire case Also mentioned in this episode: The FYI on DIY Divorce from the Founder and CEO of Hello Divorce, Erin Levine Your Roadmap to Resolution: 80+ Ways to Divorce Amicably (Yes, Really!) with Tracy Ann Moore-Grant Why You Need to Stop Calling Your Ex a Narcissist with Laila Aitken, Founder of Split.fyi ------ Take the Most of Your Listening Experience: If this episode resonates with you, be sure to: Subscribe to Divorce & Beyond so you never miss an episode. Share this episode with friends or loved ones who need hope and healing. Leave a 5-star review to help us reach even more listeners. Follow Us Online: Divorce & Beyond:  https://divorceandbeyondpod.com, IG: @divorceandbeyond MEET OUR CREATOR AND HOST: SUSAN GUTHRIE®, ESQ., the creator and host of The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast, has been nationally recognized as one of the top family law and divorce mediation attorneys in the country for more than 30 years.  Susan is the Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution and is a sought-after keynote speaker, business and practice consultant, coach and trainer. You can find out more about Susan and her services here: https://susaneguthrie.com Divorce & Beyond is a Top 1% Overall and Top 100 Self-Help podcast designed to help you with all you need to know to navigate your divorce journey and most importantly, to thrive in your beautiful beyond!   ***************************************************************************** SPONSOR SPOTLIGHT: HELLO FRESH HelloFresh is now a proud sponsor of Divorce & Beyond! If you’ve been thinking about cutting back on grocery bills, avoiding food waste, or just getting dinner on the table without the stress — this is your moment, because right now, HelloFresh is offering one free item in every box — for life! That’s right — every single box you order includes a free item, forever. And just to give you a taste of what that looks like... I got pineapple upside-down cakes in my first order! I originally discovered HelloFresh during the pandemic and fell in love with learning new recipes and expanding our dinner routine. I let it go for a while — hey, I live in Chicago with world-class restaurants on every corner — but with today’s rising costs, HelloFresh is back on my table, and I’m so glad it is. So if you’re ready to save time, money, and dinner — go to divorceandbeyond.com/hellofresh and sign up today to grab that free item for life. ***************** YUMIYU Jewelry YUMIYU Jewelry is Susan’s favorite source for meaningful, handcrafted jewelry designed to empower women and celebrate individuality. Each piece is made with care, using high-quality materials like real gold and vermeil, and is water-resistant, non-tarnish, and hypoallergenic. During difficult times, like divorce, wearing a symbol of hope or protection—such as a hamsa or an evil eye—can be a comforting reminder to keep the faith and stay strong. As a special gift to my listeners, YUMIYU Jewelry is offering 20% off your purchase! Use the code "BEYOND" at checkout to claim your discount. Explore their stunning collection at yumiyujewelry.com and find your perfect piece today! Link: https://divorcebeyond.com/YUMIYU  Code: “BEYOND” for 20% off! ***************************************************************************** SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE! If you would like to sponsor the show and reach our large community of those going through and healing from divorce, please reach out to us at  [email protected] for pricing and details!!! ***************************************************************************** DISCLAIMER:  THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL ADVICE.  YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.

What if divorce didn’t have to be a battlefield? Susan Guthrie welcomes back Tracy Ann Moore-Grant to share a refreshingly different approach, one that skips the chaos and centers on resolution, respect, and real strategy. Tracy Ann, a seasoned family law attorney and founder of the Amicable Divorce Network, is changing the game with her court-free model that prioritizes clarity and calm over conflict. They dig into Tracy Ann’s groundbreaking new book Divorce Amicably: Your Roadmap to Resolution, which brings together the wisdom of over 40 professionals (yes, including Susan!). From navigating emotional landmines to using AI tools for smarter decisions, the book covers 80+ essential topics for a smoother split.  Whether you’re in the thick of it or planning ahead, this conversation proves you do have options and a powerful roadmap to guide the way. What You’ll Discover in This Episode: Why amicable doesn’t mean easy, and how choosing the right professionals can keep things resolution-focused instead of conflict-driven How the Amicable Divorce Network’s flat-fee, court-free approach helps you get clear on costs and timelines from the start The surprising impact your divorce team has on the process and why hiring for peace beats hiring for revenge Tools and tech that streamline divorce, from secure platforms to AI-powered support Why your divorce can look different and how this new roadmap helps you make empowered, intentional choices More About Our Special Guest, Tracy Ann Moore-Grant: Tracy Ann Moore-Grant is a family law attorney, mediator, arbitrator, and parent coordinator based in Georgia. A founding partner of Patterson Moore Butler, she focuses exclusively on helping families resolve divorce and custody matters outside of court. She is the founder of the Amicable Divorce Network, an international association of vetted professionals committed to low-conflict, efficient divorce. Tracy Ann is also the host of the Amicable Divorce Network Podcast and the author of Divorce Amicably: Your Roadmap to Resolution. Recognized for her impact on the legal field, she is the recipient of both the Georgia Legal Award and the Southeastern Legal Award. Tracy Ann lives in Georgia with her husband, stepchildren, and beloved schnauzers. Websites: https://www.amicabledivorcenetwork.com/, https://www.divorceamicably.com/ Book: Divorce Amicably: Your Roadmap to Resolution https://a.co/d/0Gj18Ly Social Media:  http://www.linkedin.com/in/tracy-ann-moore-grant-9760897 http://instagram.com/amicabledivorcenetwori http://instagram.com/divorceamicably https://www.tiktok.com/@amicabledivorcenetwork http://facebook.com/amicabledivorcenetwork Take the Most of Your Listening Experience: If this episode resonates with you, be sure to: Subscribe to Divorce & Beyond so you never miss an episode. Share this episode with friends or loved ones who need hope and healing. Leave a 5-star review to help us reach even more listeners. Follow Us Online: Divorce & Beyond:  https://divorceandbeyondpod.com, IG: @divorceandbeyond MEET OUR CREATOR AND HOST: SUSAN GUTHRIE®, ESQ., the creator and host of The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast, has been nationally recognized as one of the top family law and divorce mediation attorneys in the country for more than 30 years.  Susan is the Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution and is a sought-after keynote speaker, business and practice consultant, coach and trainer. You can find out more about Susan and her services here: https://susaneguthrie.com Divorce & Beyond is a Top 1% Overall and Top 100 Self-Help podcast designed to help you with all you need to know to navigate your divorce journey and most importantly, to thrive in your beautiful beyond!   ***************************************************************************** SPONSOR SPOTLIGHT: HELLO FRESH HelloFresh is now a proud sponsor of Divorce & Beyond! If you’ve been thinking about cutting back on grocery bills, avoiding food waste, or just getting dinner on the table without the stress — this is your moment, because right now, HelloFresh is offering one free item in every box — for life! That’s right — every single box you order includes a free item, forever. And just to give you a taste of what that looks like... I got pineapple upside-down cakes in my first order! I originally discovered HelloFresh during the pandemic and fell in love with learning new recipes and expanding our dinner routine. I let it go for a while — hey, I live in Chicago with world-class restaurants on every corner — but with today’s rising costs, HelloFresh is back on my table, and I’m so glad it is. So if you’re ready to save time, money, and dinner — go to divorceandbeyond.com/hellofresh and sign up today to grab that free item for life. ***************** YUMIYU Jewelry YUMIYU Jewelry is Susan’s favorite source for meaningful, handcrafted jewelry designed to empower women and celebrate individuality. Each piece is made with care, using high-quality materials like real gold and vermeil, and is water-resistant, non-tarnish, and hypoallergenic. During difficult times, like divorce, wearing a symbol of hope or protection—such as a hamsa or an evil eye—can be a comforting reminder to keep the faith and stay strong. As a special gift to my listeners, YUMIYU Jewelry is offering 20% off your purchase! Use the code "BEYOND" at checkout to claim your discount. Explore their stunning collection at yumiyujewelry.com and find your perfect piece today! Link: https://divorcebeyond.com/YUMIYU  Code: “BEYOND” for 20% off! ***************************************************************************** SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE! If you would like to sponsor the show and reach our large community of those going through and healing from divorce, please reach out to us at  [email protected] for pricing and details!!! ***************************************************************************** DISCLAIMER:  THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL ADVICE.  YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.  

Susan Guthrie welcomes family law powerhouse Morghan Richardson for a conversation that reveals essential truths about divorce that no one warns you about, but everyone needs to know. Walk into your divorce with eyes wide open and your strategy locked in. With years of experience navigating high-net-worth divorces in New York, Morghan shares the top four shockers that catch divorcing clients off guard, truths that will save you time, energy, and heartbreak if you hear them early enough.  From the myth of fairness in financial division to the reality of parenting dynamics post-separation, this episode is your behind-the-scenes look at what really happens in divorce court and why setting expectations early could be the best legal strategy of all. What You’ll Discover in This Episode: Why divorce courts don’t reward you for your sacrifices during marriage The real reason "bad behavior" doesn’t equal legal consequences Custody decisions: how they are made and why they might not reflect past parenting roles What feels fair in asset division isn’t always what the law says is fair   Why hiring a “shark attorney” might cost you more than it’s worth More About Our Special Guest, Morghan Richardson: Morghan Richardson is a partner and co-chair of the Matrimonial & Family Law Practice at Tarter Krinsky & Drogin in New York. A skilled litigator, mediator, and consultant, Morghan is known for her holistic approach to family law, representing high-net-worth individuals, celebrities, and award-winning innovators with compassion and confidentiality. She handles complex divorce, custody matters, alimony, pre- and post-nuptial agreements, and collaborative and LGBT family law cases. A seasoned professional, Morghan draws on her past commercial litigation experience to help clients navigate high-stakes family disputes. Morghan is an Executive Board member of the Women in Law Section of the New York State Bar Association and teaches at Pace Law School. She also shares her insights as a content creator, blogger at The Divorce Artist, and contributor to The Huffington Post and Good Men’s Project, working to destigmatize divorce and support people through every stage of the process. Websites: https://www.tarterkrinsky.com/morghan-richardson, https://www.morghanrichardson.com/ Social Media:  https://www.instagram.com/morghanrichardson Take the Most of Your Listening Experience: If this episode resonates with you, be sure to: Subscribe to Divorce & Beyond so you never miss an episode. Share this episode with friends or loved ones who need hope and healing. Leave a 5-star review to help us reach even more listeners. Follow Us Online: Divorce & Beyond:  https://divorceandbeyondpod.com, IG: @divorceandbeyond MEET OUR CREATOR AND HOST: SUSAN GUTHRIE®, ESQ., the creator and host of The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast, has been nationally recognized as one of the top family law and divorce mediation attorneys in the country for more than 30 years.  Susan is the Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution and is a sought-after keynote speaker, business and practice consultant, coach and trainer. You can find out more about Susan and her services here: https://susaneguthrie.com Divorce & Beyond is a Top 1% Overall and Top 100 Self-Help podcast designed to help you with all you need to know to navigate your divorce journey and most importantly, to thrive in your beautiful beyond!   ***************************************************************************** SPONSOR SPOTLIGHT: HELLO FRESH HelloFresh is now a proud sponsor of Divorce & Beyond! If you’ve been thinking about cutting back on grocery bills, avoiding food waste, or just getting dinner on the table without the stress — this is your moment, because right now, HelloFresh is offering one free item in every box — for life! That’s right — every single box you order includes a free item, forever. And just to give you a taste of what that looks like... I got pineapple upside-down cakes in my first order! I originally discovered HelloFresh during the pandemic and fell in love with learning new recipes and expanding our dinner routine. I let it go for a while — hey, I live in Chicago with world-class restaurants on every corner — but with today’s rising costs, HelloFresh is back on my table, and I’m so glad it is. So if you’re ready to save time, money, and dinner — go to divorceandbeyond.com/hellofresh and sign up today to grab that free item for life. ***************** YUMIYU Jewelry YUMIYU Jewelry is Susan’s favorite source for meaningful, handcrafted jewelry designed to empower women and celebrate individuality. Each piece is made with care, using high-quality materials like real gold and vermeil, and is water-resistant, non-tarnish, and hypoallergenic. During difficult times, like divorce, wearing a symbol of hope or protection—such as a hamsa or an evil eye—can be a comforting reminder to keep the faith and stay strong. As a special gift to my listeners, YUMIYU Jewelry is offering 20% off your purchase! Use the code "BEYOND" at checkout to claim your discount. Explore their stunning collection at yumiyujewelry.com and find your perfect piece today! Link: https://divorcebeyond.com/YUMIYU  Code: “BEYOND” for 20% off! ***************************************************************************** SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE! If you would like to sponsor the show and reach our large community of those going through and healing from divorce, please reach out to us at  [email protected] for pricing and details!!! ***************************************************************************** DISCLAIMER:  THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL ADVICE.  YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.

In this must-listen archived episode Susan Guthrie, Esq. is joined by Professor Stephanie Tang to unpack one of the most talked-about, and misunderstood, topics in family court: the “best interests of the child” standard. Listeners often ask what this phrase actually means when it comes to custody decisions, and as Susan and Professor Tang explore, it’s far more nuanced than most realize.  From the wide-ranging factors judges consider to the pivotal role of judicial discretion, Professor Tang explains why this seemingly simple concept is actually one of the most complex aspects of family law. Whether you're a parent navigating custody, a legal professional, or just curious about how the courts operate, this episode offers a thoughtful, eye-opening perspective you won't want to miss. What You’ll Discover in This Episode: Where the “best interests of the child” standard originated Family court considerations of factors related to custody hearings What judges look at when it comes to a child’s professed wishes  Stephanie answers, “Can a parent request a change to custodial orders over time if they don’t agree with the best interests of children's determination?”  Does the bearing of what a parent wants come into play? More About Our Special Guest, Stephanie Tang: Stephanie L. Tang is an Assistant Professor of Law at Baylor Law School, teaching Family Law. Before joining Baylor, Professor Tang was a Partner at a family law firm in Chicago, where she specialized in all areas of family law. She obtained multiple certifications as a mediator, fellow with Collaborative Divorce Illinois, and a Certified Financial Litigator with the American Academy for Certified Financial Litigators. Professor Tang received a B.A. in Psychology and Legal Studies with Honors from Northwestern University in 2012. She then graduated from University of Illinois College of Law in 2015, Magna Cum Laude with pro bono notation. Professor Tang is the current Chair of the Illinois State Bar Association Family Law Section Council. Websites: Stephanie’s Best Interests of the Child and the Expanding Family article: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4390144 Read Stephanie’s other scholarly papers: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=2508965 On social media: Stephanie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephanie-tang/ Stephanie on Instagram: http://instagram/com/FamilyLawProf Stephanie on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FamilyLawProf Make the Most of Your Listening Experience: If this episode resonates with you, be sure to: Subscribe to Divorce & Beyond so you never miss an episode. Share this episode with friends or loved ones who need hope and healing. Leave a 5-star review to help us reach even more listeners. Follow Us Online: Divorce & Beyond:  https://divorceandbeyondpod.com, IG: @divorceandbeyond MEET OUR CREATOR AND HOST: SUSAN GUTHRIE®, ESQ., the creator and host of The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast, has been nationally recognized as one of the top family law and divorce mediation attorneys in the country for more than 30 years.  Susan is the Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution and is a sought-after keynote speaker, business and practice consultant, coach and trainer. You can find out more about Susan and her services here: https://susaneguthrie.com Divorce & Beyond is a Top 1% Overall and Top 100 Self-Help podcast designed to help you with all you need to know to navigate your divorce journey and most importantly, to thrive in your beautiful beyond!   ***************************************************************************** SPONSOR SPOTLIGHT: HELLO FRESH HelloFresh is now a proud sponsor of Divorce & Beyond! If you’ve been thinking about cutting back on grocery bills, avoiding food waste, or just getting dinner on the table without the stress — this is your moment, because right now, HelloFresh is offering one free item in every box — for life! That’s right — every single box you order includes a free item, forever. And just to give you a taste of what that looks like... I got pineapple upside-down cakes in my first order! I originally discovered HelloFresh during the pandemic and fell in love with learning new recipes and expanding our dinner routine. I let it go for a while — hey, I live in Chicago with world-class restaurants on every corner — but with today’s rising costs, HelloFresh is back on my table, and I’m so glad it is. So if you’re ready to save time, money, and dinner — go to divorceandbeyond.com/hellofresh and sign up today to grab that free item for life. **************** YUMIYU Jewelry YUMIYU Jewelry is Susan’s favorite source for meaningful, handcrafted jewelry designed to empower women and celebrate individuality. Each piece is made with care, using high-quality materials like real gold and vermeil, and is water-resistant, non-tarnish, and hypoallergenic. During difficult times, like divorce, wearing a symbol of hope or protection—such as a hamsa or an evil eye—can be a comforting reminder to keep the faith and stay strong. As a special gift to my listeners, YUMIYU Jewelry is offering 20% off your purchase! Use the code "BEYOND" at checkout to claim your discount. Explore their stunning collection at yumiyujewelry.com and find your perfect piece today! Link: https://divorcebeyond.com/YUMIYU  Code: “BEYOND” for 20% off! ***************************************************************************** SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE! If you would like to sponsor the show and reach our large community of those going through and healing from divorce, please reach out to us at  [email protected] for pricing and details!!! ***************************************************************************** DISCLAIMER:  THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL ADVICE.  YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.