Ben Woodruff on Skinwalker Ranch Part 2: Dire Wolves, Portals, Cryptids and the Evidence

In this news update, Andy is joined by Dan to discuss Bob Lazar’s return to the headlines, the new S4 documentary, and the fallout from the Chuck Clark footage finally appearing online. They get into whether the film adds anything genuinely new, how Lazar’s story has evolved over time, and why the newly surfaced clip has left so many people arguing over what it really shows. Also in this episode: Anna Paulina Luna’s request for 46 videos, the latest missing scientist discussion, and Kacey Musgraves’ alleged orb sighting.🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join⁠🛸 Patreon: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast⁠🛸 Apple Podcasts: ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397⁠🛸 Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ⁠🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast⁠📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: ⁠YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast⁠Email: ⁠[email protected]⁠All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: ⁠ThatUFOPodcast.com⁠👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy

Whitley Strieber returns to That UFO Podcast to discuss Transformation 2026, and this is one of the most personal and unsettling conversations we’ve had.Whitley reflects on the terrifying night he believed his young son had been taken, the wider impact these experiences had on his family, and why he feels the world may be moving toward a form of disclosure that will affect far more than politics. We also get into hybrids, telepathy, trauma, religion, consciousness, and what life could look like in a genuine post-disclosure world.Whether you agree with Whitley or not, this is a fascinating deep dive into one of the most controversial voices in the UFO conversation.In this episode:The night Whitley thought his son had been takenWhy he brought Transformation back in 2026How these experiences affected his familyHis thoughts on disclosure and ontological shockWhy he rejects the idea that the visitors are simply demonic or angelicHybrids, telepathy, and the long-term human implications of contacthttps://amzn.eu/d/047yo6dc🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: [email protected] links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy

In Part 2 of my conversation with Skinwalker Ranch biologist Ben Woodruff, we go deeper into some of the strangest claims connected to the ranch.Ben discusses portals, cryptid sightings, unusual animal behaviour, cattle mutilation theories, supposed time anomalies, and the biological effects he says have been observed on the property. We also get into the dire wolf story, DNA questions, black jaguar claims, and the challenge of separating genuine anomalies from misidentifications, lens flares, and exaggeration.This is the more detailed and more controversial half of the discussion, as Ben lays out where he thinks the strongest evidence sits, what he believes skeptics get wrong, and why some of the most interesting questions around Skinwalker Ranch are still unresolved.Check out Ben's workhttps://www.youtube.com/@benwoodrufffalconryhttps://www.jhutchingsmuseum.com/🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: [email protected] links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy

Ben Woodruff joins me to talk about his background as a biologist, his own childhood UFO sighting, and how he ended up working on Skinwalker Ranch before the TV series began.In Part 1, we get into what Ben says he experienced during his earliest time on the ranch, including strange voices, unsettling activity inside the ranch house, and the biological anomalies that first made him realise this place was different. We also discuss the balance between real science and television, what frustrates him about NDA restrictions, and a remarkable story involving one of his trained falcons that he says disappeared in front of them during an experiment on the ranch.This is a fascinating opening half of a conversation that builds from personal experience into some of the biggest claims Ben says he has witnessed firsthand.Check out Ben's workhttps://www.youtube.com/@benwoodrufffalconryhttps://www.jhutchingsmuseum.com/🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: [email protected] links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy

On the 60th anniversary of the Westall incident, I’m re-releasing this conversation with researcher Shane Ryan, originally recorded in December 2022.Shane has spent years investigating one of the most remarkable mass sighting cases in UFO history: the 1966 Westall event in Melbourne, Australia, where students, teachers, and others reported seeing strange flying saucer-shaped objects over and near the school grounds.In this interview, Shane breaks down what witnesses said they saw, the reported aftermath on the ground, the response from authorities, and why the case still stands as one of the most important and debated schoolyard UFO encounters ever reported.If you’re new to the Westall case, or want to revisit one of the most compelling incidents from outside the United States, this is a great place to start.🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: [email protected] links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy

On this episode of That UFO Podcast, Andy is joined by Dan Zetterstrom to break down one of the busiest weeks in the UFO space.They get into Matt Gaetz and the alien hybrid briefing claims, Tim Burchett’s latest comments about what he says would keep the public up at night, and Anna Paulina Luna’s push for specific UAP videos from Pete Hegseth by April 14th. They also discuss the mystery around General Neil McCasland, the strange appearance of aliens.gov, Bill Maher’s recent UFO segment, new projects linked to Steven Greer and Bob Lazar, and the latest on Steven Spielberg’s Disclosure Day movie.A wide ranging news roundup with plenty to dig into. Sign up to the paid feeds for an extra hour of content from this episode!Check out Dan's work - https://www.tobehumanshow.com/🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: [email protected] links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy

Andy is joined by documentary filmmaker Darcy Weir to discuss his film Dark Alliance: The Inside Story of the Cosmic Con and the wider world of Secret Space Program claims, Corey Goode, David Wilcock and the ecosystem that has grown around some of the biggest personalities in ufology.They talk about why these stories gain traction, the crossover between entertainment and belief, the role of platforms like Gaia, and how difficult it can be for audiences to separate genuine mystery from elaborate storytelling. They also touch on Steven Greer, Chris Bledsoe, Bob Lazar, whistleblowers, and why critical thinking matters more than ever in a space where extraordinary claims continue to spread.This is a conversation about belief, influence, exploitation, and the parts of the UFO topic that deserve much closer scrutiny.https://www.occultjourneys.com/🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: [email protected] links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy

Author, researcher and explorer Timothy Alberino joins me for a deep dive into UFOs, ancient civilizations, biblical history and the mystery schools. We talk about Tim’s formative years in Peru, his own close encounter, and why he sees the modern disclosure conversation as part of a much older and more complex story.https://timothyalberino.com/🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: [email protected] links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy

Andy is back with a packed UFO news update after a couple of weeks away.This episode covers Matthew Brown’s latest claims around Immaculate Constellation and why he says whistleblowers are being lured, targeted and trapped. Andy also looks at the still unresolved disappearance of retired Major General Neil McCasland, why the case is gaining more attention, and how the Monica Reza link is adding even more intrigue.There is also a scientific update on the work of Dr Beatriz Villarroel, with new research adding support to the idea that strange transient objects may have been captured on old pre-Sputnik sky survey plates. Plus, thoughts on the White House registering aliens.gov and alien.gov, what it may mean, and why expectations should stay in check.Also in this episode:Bob Lazar’s new S4 documentarySteven Greer’s Washington DC event in MayListener questions on Gary McKinnon, disclosure, AARO, whistleblowers and more🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: [email protected] links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy

Andy answers listener questions on disclosure, secrecy, post-disclosure life, black triangles, biologics versus AI probes, the nature of the phenomenon, disinformation, standards of proof, and the voices in ufology that have influenced his thinking most.🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: [email protected] links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy