#46 - Minutes of the Last Meeting

No guest this time, just Jim and Beardo catching up.They cover:Where the Roadrunner documentary is at, and why chasing down original pressings mattersCollecting production memorabilia, and a £1,500 Deftones shirtDan's plans to promote gigs in Brighton, and the case for matinee showsJim's hypothetical label: no touring, more albums, licensing to indie gamesSlipknot's secret posters, and why nobody takes a marketing risk anymoreWhy pubs never play anything newer than 2013Music journalism, the PR treadmill, and why you can't create a rock star anymoreWhat the hardcore scene is giving younger fans that metal isn'tIf you're Gen Z and into heavy music, we'd like to hear how the scene looks from where you're standing.0:00 Intro 0:11 Production gremlins 3:13 Roadrunner doc update: chasing original pressings 13:52 Collecting: storyboards, call sheets and a £1,500 Deftones shirt 21:38 The Last Jedi, ten years on 24:27 Dan on promoting in Brighton and matinee shows 36:09 A hypothetical label: no touring, more albums 42:19 Creative marketing and Slipknot's secret posters 47:07 Pub playlists stuck in 2013, and where the bold labels went 51:40 Music journalism and the PR treadmill 57:03 You can't create a rock star anymore 1:00:52 Hardcore, Gen Z and what we might be missing 1:08:19 Journalists as personalities, and Dead Rock Stars 1:16:08 Festival lineups and Brutal Assault 1:19:36 Wrap up

Beardo's away, so Jim ropes in his mate DJ — who has seen a few clips and otherwise has no idea what this podcast is. Which is fair, because twelve minutes in Jim admits he may not actually like music. He just likes the pub and the paperwork.So: why Slipknot "left" Roadrunner but the logo is still at the bottom of the new single. Why Anthrax should be doing for the East Coast what Mötley Crüe did for the West. The night Orange Goblin refused the venue's merch cut and sold their shirts from the pub over the road. And the managers who swear they have a plan every time, when really they just haven't been sacked yet.No guest, no topic, no notes.

[Beardo is echo-ey for the first quarter of this episode - calm your tits]Jim went to Brutal Assault. Beardo went to Beyond the Gates. Neither of them wants to talk about the bands.Instead: 5G across a fortress for five days, toilets with a traffic-light system, a wristband that means you never queue for a pint, and a round that came to £3.91. Then the harder question — why the UK can't do any of it, and who actually owns that problem.Also: the £10 band you've never heard of, why every town needs a Big Gary, and a Swedish man with a bag of maggots.No guest this week. Just a stock-take.

Tony Boden put on death metal shows in Brighton — four mates each risking £500 on a Tuesday to get Nile through the door. Twenty years on he's at Out Of Line in Berlin: booking, promoting, some A&R, some management, and teaching music export at Berklee.He tells Jim and Beardo how it actually works. What an agent does that a promoter doesn't. Why your dashboard numbers don't predict who turns up. Why Facebook still outsells everything for tickets.Also: a venue two hundred over capacity, the police at the door, and the time Watain sat down in catering.

Part Two of our Earache Records deep dive — and this one went off-script. We sat down with Al Dawson (Earache US) to fact-check twenty years of label history… and then founder Digby Pearson, who it turns out was one of two people watching the stream, texted his way into the call — bringing an announcement with him: a new signing he describes as "one of the biggest pop producers in the world", making a death metal album for Earache.Also in this episode: – The tennis match that put Entombed on MTV – What Columbia really spent marketing Carcass's Heartwork — and what it sold – The Bring Me The Horizon Warped Tour merch call: "$50,000… a night" – The Repugnant demo Tobias Forge sent Earache, and never got a reply to – Skindred vs Universal: twelve staff against four hundred for a UK number one – Why Digby passed on Blood Incantation. Twice.0:00 Preamble & setup 1:20 Part Two begins — picking up Part One's questions 12:54 Entombed, MTV, and a tennis bet 18:42 Why the Columbia deal really ended 54:26 "$60 million to sell out" — the last independents 1:05:47 Digby crashes his own label's interview 1:10:06 The announcement: the secret Swedish signing 1:13:07 The Ghost demo Earache ignored 1:35:27 Blood Incantation: the one that got away 1:38:44 BMTH: $50k a night in merch 2:04:56 Skindred vs Universal: the chart war 2:14:02 "I shunned all the -tions"Temple of Bleh EP 42 — Earache Records: From Scum to Sofa, Part Two, ft. Al Dawson & Digby Pearson.

Get yer tinfoil hats ready - we're discussing Earache's transition from Grind to Grandad.

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Ducking out the Bullets and Octane rehearsal studio to guest host this episode, Gene Louis spills his passion for drumming with Modern Drummer founder and CEO, David Frangioni.

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