171: "Dreams" vs. "You're So Vain" (w/Andrew Unterberger!)

Two guys from the suburbs of NYC loved old doo-wop and '60s girl groups! Which bridge-and-tunnel legend's catchiest song is the better classic pop song, Bruce Springsteen's "Hungry Heart" or Billy Joel's "Uptown Girl"?Song vs. Song Patreon here! Please donate, we need you.And as always — if you have the time and money to spare, please consider donating to any of these causes in the fight for trans rights:Transgender Law CenterTrans LifelineDestination TomorrowGender-Affirming Care Fundraising on GoFundMeAlso, please consider giving your local congresspeople a call in support of trans rights, with contact information you can find on 5Calls.org.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Teen movies of the '90s needed a cute little twee song for teenagers to kiss to, but which was the most romantic of the two? Todd and Lina argue between "Kiss Me" by Sixpence None the Richer and "Lovefool" by the Cardigans!Song vs. Song Patreon here! Please donate, we need you.And as always — if you have the time and money to spare, please consider donating to any of these causes in the fight for trans rights:Transgender Law CenterTrans LifelineDestination TomorrowGender-Affirming Care Fundraising on GoFundMeAlso, please consider giving your local congresspeople a call in support of trans rights, with contact information you can find on 5Calls.org.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Two of the finest and most devastating kiss-off tracks of the '70s, the songs that basically created the Main Pop Girl era five decades ahead of time, but which of these is the most heartbreakingly brutal burns of the '70s, "Dreams" by Fleetwood Mac or "You're So Vain" by Carly Simon?Song vs. Song Patreon here! Please donate, we need you.And as always — if you have the time and money to spare, please consider donating to any of these causes in the fight for trans rights:Transgender Law CenterTrans LifelineDestination TomorrowGender-Affirming Care Fundraising on GoFundMeAlso, please consider giving your local congresspeople a call in support of trans rights, with contact information you can find on 5Calls.org.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It's the pandemic and the dance floors are all closed but disco lives on! We invite Main Pod Girl's AJ Marks into the studio to help us debate which is the finest of the 2020 dance songs with the problematic optional guest rapper, Doja Cat's "Say So" (ft. Nicki Minaj) or Dua Lipa's "Levitating" (ft. DaBaby)! Song vs. Song Patreon here! Please donate, we need you.And as always — if you have the time and money to spare, please consider donating to any of these causes in the fight for trans rights:Transgender Law CenterTrans LifelineDestination TomorrowGender-Affirming Care Fundraising on GoFundMeAlso, please consider giving your local congresspeople a call in support of trans rights, with contact information you can find on 5Calls.org.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It's the mid-'80s and two bands have figured out that what people want is British guys giving commands in two-note chanting choruses. Which is the best more-chorus-than-song song of the mid-'80s, "Shout" by Tears for Fears or "Relax" by Frankie Goes to Hollywood? Thank you to special guest Justin Lewis, check out his great book "Into the Groove: The 1980s: The Ultimate Decade in Music History" which you can pre-order in the US here or buy in the UK here! Song vs. Song Patreon here! Please donate, we need you. And as always — if you have the time and money to spare, please consider donating to any of these causes in the fight for trans rights:Transgender Law CenterTrans LifelineDestination TomorrowGender-Affirming Care Fundraising on GoFundMeAlso, please consider giving your local congresspeople a call in support of trans rights, with contact information you can find on 5Calls.org.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

If there's one thing we liked in rock in the 2000s, it was the '90s, and those who managed to survive it. But which band starring former members of grunge bands really made the '00s RAWK and feel emotions. Well we've got pod best friend and '00s rock expert Pat Finnerty to help us decode this mess and help us decide which is THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST between Foo Fighters' "Best of You" and Audioslave's "Best of You"! And as always — if you have the time and money to spare, please consider donating to any of these causes in the fight for trans rights:Transgender Law CenterTrans LifelineDestination TomorrowGender-Affirming Care Fundraising on GoFundMeAlso, please consider giving your local congresspeople a call in support of trans rights, with contact information you can find on 5Calls.org.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

What is the best metal song of 1980???? Is Lemmy God? Is he better than the Metal God Rob Halford? Is there a better song to wash your dog to??? Put on your studded metal because we're debating "Breaking the Law" by Judas Priest vs. "Ace of Spades" by Motörhead!And as always — if you have the time and money to spare, please consider donating to any of these causes in the fight for trans rights:Transgender Law CenterTrans LifelineDestination TomorrowGender-Affirming Care Fundraising on GoFundMeAlso, please consider giving your local congresspeople a call in support of trans rights, with contact information you can find on 5Calls.org.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Dale! Party rock is in the house tonight! The year is 2011 and nothing will ever feel bad ever again! But someone in the non-stop party has to be the party king so we're debating the best song about having a good time because we might not have tomorrow. Who will reign supreme, "Party Rock Anthem" by LMFAO or "Give Me Everything" by Pitbull?And as always — if you have the time and money to spare, please consider donating to any of these causes in the fight for trans rights:Transgender Law CenterTrans LifelineDestination TomorrowGender-Affirming Care Fundraising on GoFundMeAlso, please consider giving your local congresspeople a call in support of trans rights, with contact information you can find on 5Calls.org.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Two of the greatest, mumbliest songwriters of the '60s decide to write sweet love songs! But only one can succeed between Dylan and Lou Reed, and we've brought star of "Disney's The Kid" and "The Santa Clause" 2 and 3 Spencer Breslin to help us decide which of the rambly hipsters makes the prettier tribute to love, Bob Dylan's "Lay Lady Lay" or the Velvet Underground's "Sweet Jane"?And as always — if you have the time and money to spare, please consider donating to any of these causes in the fight for trans rights:Transgender Law CenterTrans LifelineDestination TomorrowGender-Affirming Care Fundraising on GoFundMeAlso, please consider giving your local congresspeople a call in support of trans rights, with contact information you can find on 5Calls.org.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

To make up for a minor scheduling snafu, we are unlocking the vault and releasing one of our bonus episodes! We invite Wicked megafan Sarah Z into the studio to talk about the two movies and whether they fix or worsen one of the most popular musicals of all timeSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.