97. Miss California w/ Phil & Chris of 4 Normandy

Brothers Phil and Chris of the band 4 Normandy share how Andrew’s music inspired them to play music together and how it keeps them connected even today. We talk about their own music at the beginning and how that came together, then transition into our conversation about the Andrew McMahon song we chose. You’ll hear some of their own song, “Alive” within the episode, as well as in the outro. You can stream this song and others wherever you like. The Spotify link to their music is below. Song Audio: https://youtu.be/1OxW5c42o4s?si=Y_OQ-tccwnRCBWjW 4 Normandy on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/1DbbOzpdDqQ837KjYARGSf?si=tenrsQuQQ2-G4uRAr-yBmA Live in Los Angeles, 2008: https://youtu.be/u_9yl5yZ68E?si=dEzmGdvUtne_r1Gq Live at Sound Check, Pittsburgh, 2025: https://youtu.be/Dd6R2IkTRAE?si=LWdyQBuzGLu9C_CF Andrew discusses the song, 2009: https://youtu.be/YYc62PTjekA?si=iGtIxsAVEeFNIfWv 4 Normandy (Phil & Chris’ former band) Starland Ballroom performance: https://youtu.be/ka186RIAS-s?si=nz8S7JB_7JSEk3Mf

Kristie has been a long-time fan, even introducing her daughter Kayleigh to the fandom in recent years. She was lucky to see the song we’re talking about today live at Red Rocks recently. Plus, Kayleigh tells us about her experience singing on stage with Andrew on the New Friends tour and of course, we had to discuss the new Strings Attached EP! Besides all that? We’re talking about a newer fan favorite song. Do you agree? Official Music Video: https://youtu.be/Brhoh8mMLcg?si=apcqkMHI6fhkPMEB Remix version: https://youtu.be/KsWtysdymDc?si=nhBNjo61TMIJrECS Stars, Live at Red Rocks, 2025: https://youtu.be/ykrO9A5FRQg?si=O84Q6TkQiYl-amdN Kayliegh, “Dark Blue”, Charlotte, 2023: https://youtu.be/mjORoLK24LQ?si=IsTWSb6mGUylvN3Q&t=377 Live (piano-only) at PNC Studio Session, 2023: https://youtu.be/V3Jj8xAVa7k?si=6WL99x6vjKZRK_p4 Nettwerk interview: https://nettwerk.com/andrew-mcmahon-in-the-wilderness-releases-new-single-stars/ Consequence of Sound article, 2023: https://consequence.net/2023/03/andrew-mcmahon-in-the-wilderness-tilt-at-the-wind-no-more-track-by-track/4/ Tiffany’s artwork: https://www.instagram.com/tiffanyfagnantart/

We have now been doing this podcast for 5 years, and we thought... what better way to celebrate than to bring Andrew McMahon back to the podcast to celebrate the 20th anniversary of Everything in Transit?! Steve Jones from Concert Pipeline and I partnered on this interview with Andrew while he was out on our with Jack's Mannequin! This episode was recorded back in June while on the first leg of the tour prior to Red Rocks. This interview is available on both the Concert Pipeline podcast feed as well as this one. We asked Andrew about how he got into the headspace to return to the Jack's era, his thoughts on Red Rocks (before it happened), his fan community, what's next for him in the near future, and much more! You may be surprised at some of his answers... We are so grateful for this opportunity. Concert Pipeline Podcast: https://linktr.ee/concertpipeline Concert Pipeline's YouTube (with full video interview): https://youtu.be/ADT5jRC5DhQ?si=jqo1YsZIUt8atByn My daughters videos from the Pittsburgh show in June 2025: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX_KsnmAMJni8IxGf0Y-tO0iTtV8spX4P&si=SWY3KkhcTP6gGUfA "Swim" at 10 Years in Transit, Columbus, 2016: https://youtu.be/KxNRcDuGxDI

Mary Lynn joins the podcast to talk about her experience with her best friend at the recent Red Rocks Three Pianos show! We learn about their history as fans as well as the Dear Jack Foundation fundraising they do. But mostly, we talk about what it was like to be at the Andrew McMahon Red Rocks show in person! MaryLynn's Red Rocks videos: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWyTvS0LcDH6kujUwrQbKDp6xfhFNuqm8&si=oxePfyJIbYFQibJ- Chantel's review and photos: https://discord.com/channels/1315387546422870127/1315387547068923987/1400628615133139097

Andrew Ware returns to the podcast to complete the trifecta: We’ve discussed a Wilderness and a Jack’s Mannequin song together, so it was inevitable that we would do a Something Corporate track eventually. Join us as we get DEEP on the lyrics, even with some light critique, touching on change with the times in culture, values, and why this song might be different if it was written and released today. Song Audio: https://youtu.be/nkdItUuYVIA?si=fQxFYIrL5CE3VDP3 Instagram Live: https://youtu.be/PxMDzG131GI?si=zKtCPhGLwNwCJF2E&t=962 Live in Philadelphia, 2024: https://youtu.be/CFTyjmyuv30?si=Vig5YgF-tdgoFkta Music Frisk interview, 2003: https://www.musicfrisk.com/something-corporate-interview/

We take a brief detour from Jack's Summer to talk about a sometimes-overlooked gem of a song that has fallen out of the live show in recent years for the most part. I haven't ever spoken to another fan who considers this one of their favorites. Is it one of your favorites? Review from hiddenjams.com: https://hiddenjams.com/2014/10/14/review-andrew-mcmahon-in-the-wilderness/ Live in DC, 2014: https://youtu.be/FdYT37QZeiA Live at Mohegan Sun, CT, 2015: https://youtu.be/XvPFsYNNLeg HuffPost article, 2014: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fangs-wilderness-chats-w_b_8398818 Fan-made Music Video by December Hotel: https://youtu.be/_xsV4F_oAog

We take a brief detour from Jack's Summer to talk about a sometimes-overlooked gem of a song that has fallen out of the live show in recent years for the most part. I haven't ever spoken to another fan who considers this one of their favorites. Is it one of your favorites? Review from hiddenjams.com: https://hiddenjams.com/2014/10/14/review-andrew-mcmahon-in-the-wilderness/ Live in DC, 2014: https://youtu.be/FdYT37QZeiA Live at Mohegan Sun, CT, 2015: https://youtu.be/XvPFsYNNLeg HuffPost article, 2014: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fangs-wilderness-chats-w_b_8398818 Fan-made Music Video by December Hotel: https://youtu.be/_xsV4F_oAog

Happy Father's Day! My wife and daughters and I went out to the Pittsburgh date of the Jack's Mannequin MFEO tour and had a blast! It was all I wanted! We met up with friends, made some new ones, and were so impressed with the visuals and the setlist. We talk about it all on this episode! I also give you a teaser about a cool episode coming up in August for the 100th song episode celebration. The MFEO Tour Pt. 2 Recap will happen in November after I go to more Jack's Mannequin shows. Live show videos, Pittsburgh 2025: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX_KsnmAMJni8IxGf0Y-tO0iTtV8spX4P&si=Wzj5GC9XjfBMkM1H

Andy has recently dove deeper into his fandom for Andrew McMahon and came to share his thoughts on a newer song. Find out what he has to say about this song, and Andrew’s music in general as a fan that’s still discovering the music. We dive deep into the meaning of the song- what it means to us, and what it may have meant to the songwriters. Official Music Video: https://youtu.be/4VWzY-fUWlE?si=Mkqv3qKxAoLPJbW7 Piano-only version (visualizer): https://youtu.be/U17-aNbB_tU?si=IgFmdIUKedju-WnB Live (full-band) in Anaheim, 2023: https://youtu.be/mG58yA9yAyU?si=5fk92rNsZdg3C8br Live (piano-only) at PNC Studio Session, 2023: https://youtu.be/-3kzdv1VJ60?si=X3r38PrWbjG01kYN Consequence of Sound article, 2023: https://consequence.net/2023/03/andrew-mcmahon-in-the-wilderness-tilt-at-the-wind-no-more-track-by-track/4/ American Songwriter article, 2023: https://americansongwriter.com/review-andrew-mcmahon-sifts-through-his-past-in-tilt-at-the-wind-no-more/

*Content Warning* This episode contains discussion of mental health challenges, including suicidal ideation. Listener discretion is advised. First-time guest Steven brings a personal and powerful story about how Andrew McMahon’s music impacted his own personal path. We unpack the song's lyrics and themes and discuss what this song means to each of us. This episode offers a heartfelt and insightful look at an often overlooked track. “Platform Fire” short film: https://youtu.be/OzIxsZXuTDA?si=gH_vcNdw1Hb7004G Track-by-Track Intro by Andrew: https://youtu.be/PtzlRGuV99k?si=FBrqLKJhn6tRFD7Y Live in August, 2011: https://youtu.be/FEwEgSfI1h4?si=A2PCLOqsNT2B9Dlg