Law of Attraction Teachings With Antonio T Smith Jr podcast

Ministry Beyond Messy People 4 Ministry Beyond Leaders

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In this episode, we explore the concept of "practiced religion" and challenge the limits imposed by superficial leadership. Discover how true ministry transcends expectations, doubts, and even the insecurities of those in power, as we discuss authentic faith, accountability, and the courage to lead beyond the masks we wear.


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Introduction to Mentoring Deanna

  • Antonio T. Smith Jr. reflects on mentoring Deanna for nearly a decade.
  • Antonio introduces Deanna's concept of "practiced religion," which distinguishes between individuals who sincerely practice their faith and those who merely go through the motions.
  • Deanna described these individuals as "practiced Christians," indicating that their actions were performative rather than rooted in genuine belief.

Ministry Beyond Leaders: Key Concept Introduction

  • Main Focus: Antonio aims to discuss the concept of "ministry beyond leaders" and explore how genuine ministry extends beyond hierarchical leadership structures.
  • He places emphasis on finding ways to serve and do meaningful work, irrespective of whether there is direct support from established leadership.

Breakdown of Weekly Ministry Themes

  1. Week 1: Ministry Beyond the Disciples
  • Antonio explores how ministry should continue beyond the immediate presence of disciples or followers.
  • He encourages the audience to understand ministry as an ongoing effort that doesn’t require validation from others.
  • Example: Antonio cites John 9, where Jesus healed a man even without the disciples present, emphasizing that ministry is about the work itself, not who is watching.
  1. Week 2: Ministry Beyond People Talking
  • This week deals with overcoming criticism and gossip.
  • Antonio mentions the challenge of "people running their mouths" and stresses the importance of continuing one’s ministry despite negative talk.
  • Example from John 9: The blind man's blessing was questioned by people who never directly approached him, showing that doubts often arise from those unwilling to seek understanding.
  1. Week 3: Ministry Beyond Doubts
  • Antonio focuses on working through others’ doubts and skepticism.
  • Example: People doubting that the healed blind man was the same person, reflecting how disbelief can discourage genuine progress.
  • Antonio encourages perseverance in ministry despite these doubts, asserting that true service must continue regardless of skepticism.
  1. Week 4: Ministry Beyond Leaders
  • Main Topic: Antonio talks about a ministry that transcends the limits imposed by religious leaders or those in power.
  • Example: The Pharisees doubting Jesus and the healed man, illustrating how rigid leadership can stifle individual faith and transformation.
  • Spiritual Abuse Mentioned: Antonio addresses the issue of leaders claiming authority to decide who gets to be close to God or be part of the community, labeling this behavior as "spiritual abuse."

Ministry as Work: Comparing Ministry to Electrical Engineering

  • Antonio uses an analogy to describe ministry as akin to electrical work:
  • Positive and Negative Charges: Just like electrical work, ministry can have both positive and negative aspects, but regardless, the work must be done.
  • Neutrality in Ministry: Antonio strongly rejects being "lukewarm" in ministry, emphasizing that neutrality is unproductive. A person must be either hot or cold to make an impact.
  • Sacred Text Reference: He highlights that sacred texts often say those who are "lukewarm" will be "spewed out," underscoring the importance of genuine commitment over indecision.

Social and Historical Context: Roman Citizenship and Judaism

  • Antonio provides historical context about the Jewish people under Roman rule:
  • Roman Citizenship Requirements: He explains how being recognized as part of the Roman Empire provided certain benefits such as protection, plumbing, and electricity.
  • Loss of Jewish Identity: Antonio elaborates that if a person was expelled from the synagogue, they essentially lost their Jewish identity and the protections that came with it.
  • Historical Parallel: He uses the example of the man born blind and his parents being questioned about their son’s healing, highlighting how Jewish authorities could threaten a person’s religious and social status to maintain control.

Challenges of Leadership: The Saul and David Story

  • Jealousy and Insecurity in Leadership:
  • Antonio uses the biblical story of Saul and David to illustrate the destructive effects of jealousy and insecurity within leadership.
  • He explains that Saul's anger towards David wasn’t due to a personal wrong, but rather David’s ability to bring peace through his music, which highlighted Saul's own inadequacies.
  • Personal Reflection:
  • Antonio draws parallels to modern leadership, discussing how some leaders feel threatened by the success of those they lead, particularly when they cannot control the outcome.
  • He refers to the dangers of needing to control all blessings within one's "household" or domain, warning of the toxicity this mindset creates.

Parent-Child Dynamics and Accountability

  • Parents Don’t Owe You Anything:
  • Antonio addresses the common attitude of blaming parents for adult struggles, emphasizing that parents did the best they could with what they had.
  • He acknowledges that while parents may have made mistakes, it is the individual's responsibility, as an adult, to take accountability for their own lives and stop carrying the resentment of childhood shortcomings.

Authentic vs. False Leadership

  • Authenticity in Leadership:
  • Antonio discusses the difference between authentic and inauthentic leadership.
  • Authentic leaders are those who fall and rise again, setting an example of resilience, whereas false leaders maintain a façade, never showing weakness or admitting faults.
  • Impact of False Teachings:
  • Antonio explains the detrimental effects of following a leader who is unwilling to change or admit mistakes.
  • Audience Reflection: Followers of false leaders often wear similar "masks," pretending to be flawless, whereas followers of true leaders embrace vulnerability and growth.

Emotional and Psychological Challenges in Faith

  • Ministry Beyond Leadership Failures:
  • Antonio encourages the audience to persevere in faith and ministry even when religious leaders fail or exhibit hypocrisy.
  • The Cost of False Leadership: He warns that when leaders refuse to acknowledge their flaws, it can lead their followers astray, creating a toxic environment that suppresses genuine spiritual growth.

Closing Reflection on Human Nature and Accountability

  • Harvesting What We Plant:
  • Antonio emphasizes that individuals are ultimately responsible for the harvests in their lives. What they experience is a result of the seeds they have planted, either by their own actions or by allowing others to plant in their lives.
  • No External Blame:
  • He insists that people often blame others for negative outcomes, but it is the individual's responsibility to prevent or enable those seeds from taking root.
  • Communal Relationships and Jealousy:
  • Antonio addresses the recurring theme of jealousy among peers and within communities.
  • He provides examples of how individuals often face resentment from those closest to them—friends or family—when they experience growth or success, urging listeners to recognize and overcome these challenges.



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