202: bottommen and Topmen

Pennyfool and Birdbrat chat about the people who brought the straight/queer kink scene into being and the organizations they founded! Also covered: the continued split between the gay men's and straight/queer scene, the major role played by fem doms, and energy leeches. Enjoy!People mentioned in this episode: Cynthia SlaterPat Bond, Patrick CalifiaGayle RubinNancy Ava MillerJim KaneGuy BaldwinOrganizations: JanusEulenspiegel (TES)SamoisBlack RosePeople Exchanging Power (PEP)Sources: Society Of Janus: 25 Years (T. Weymouth)Pervert: Notes from the Sexual Underground (Nancy Ava Miller)Cynthia Slater and the Catholic Priest (Jack Fritscher)https://www.tes.org/

Pennyfool and Birdbrat talk about respect and respectability in kink. From bondage to breathplay to stink, these two cool cats take you through their perspectives on gatekeeping, safety and more!

Black Kore and Pennyfool talk about Chuck Renslow's ascent to a leather business mogul with the founding of the Gold Coast, Man's Country, International Mr. Leather, and more. We touch on his potential ties to the mob, his infamous polycule ("The Family"), the White Parties, and the founding of the Leather Archives.

WE'RE BACK! Pennyfool and Black Kore talk about Chuck Renslow, Dom "Etienne" Orejudos, Phil Sparrow and their roles in forming the early Chicago Leather Scene. Topics include pre and post war gay porn, gyms, cruising, tattooing, the move from 1:1 SM to a coalescing SM "scene", relationships with Kinsey, and more! We're so excited to be back and sharing more leather history with you :) Sources:Leatherman: The Legend of Chuck RenslowSecret Historian: The Life and Times of Samuel Steward, Professor, Tattoo Artist, and Sexual RenegadeFireside chat with Chuck Renslow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K12LdbkMWFghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dom_Orejudoshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Renslowhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Steward

@penny_fool and @birdbrat talk about Thom Magister's "One Among Many: The Training of a Leatherman" from Leatherfolk. This is a great one if you like gay biker gangs from the 1950s, and (high) fantasy.

@puppeegirl and @penny_fool kick off Season 2 discussing Gayle Rubin's essay "The Catacombs: a Temple of the Butthole" from Leatherfolk (1991). This is a fun one for anal enthusiasts and kink/leather history nerds. Topics include San Francison, Folsom, South of Market, Fisting, Crisco, Why queers should write wills, and many more!

Pennyfool introduces Season 2 and discusses a historical essay on kink and the queer community

Birdbrat and Pennyfool go off the cuff on masturbation! Grappling with embarassment, how we masturbate, what we to masturbate to, etc.

Pennyfool and Puppeegirl talk about whether they should start a 24/7 dog/owner dynamic! Fun episode for those who like live processingIn this episode we mentioned: Mistress Blunt in conversation with her FinsubEvie Lupine's youtube@puppeegirl's twitter dms are open if you are also a dog and want to make some friends!

Birdbrat and Pennyfool talk about... roleyplaying? Does roleplaying exist in a kinky context? Is roleyplaying everything in a kinky context? Also they eat food