
380: Ezra Klein's Abundance vs. Paul Kingsnorth's Machine—Wizards & Prophets All the Way Down...
The perennial fight returns... In one corner, there are the wizards: optimists who are betting that technology and economic growth can solve our problems faster than it can create them? In the other corner, prophets: who believe we have deeply lost in our way in ignoring limits and that we need to get ourselves back to the garden.
How much wizard and how much prophet do you have contained in your own heart?
Today's monologue episode has host Ross Kenyon exploring two recent books: Ezra Klein & Derek Thompson's Abundance, and Paul Kingsnorth's Against the Machine: On the Unmaking of Humanity, regarding how they continue the oldest and deepest fight in environmentalism.
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Against the Machine: On the Unmaking of Humanity by Paul Kingsnorth
Abundance by Ezra Klein & Derek Thompson
"S2E15: Are you a wizard or a prophet?—w/ Charles C. Mann"
1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus by Charles C. Mann
Joseph Schumpeter & creative destruction
National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA)
"Anyway, Here's Wonderwall" meme
The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society
What Technology Wants by Kevin Kelly
If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies by Eliezer Yudkowsky & Nate Soares
A brief interpretation of some of Peter Thiel's Greta Thunberg antichrist comments
"The mountains are calling and I must go."
- John Muir
“I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”
- Albert Einstein (attributed)
"The master’s tools will never dismantle the master’s house."
- Audre Lorde
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