Ep 101: Making Art in the Void

Mail Bag Alert! Jennifer Coates and I want to know: What do you listen to in the studio?We will use your response in an upcoming episode if you are able to send us a message by Thursday, Nov 19, 2026.Can't wait to hear what you listen to when you make your work!How to reach us:IG Message: https://www.instagram.com/peptalksforartistsRecord a Voicemail: https://www.peptalksforartists.com/ (click the red circle microphone icon on the bottom right of the homepage)IG Message Amy: https://www.instagram.com/tallutsIG Message Jennifer: https://www.instagram.com/jennifercoates666Thanks for contributing!All music by Soundstripe----------------------------Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.amytalluto.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

If you are currently without a gallery or upcoming exhibition, please enjoy this episode about making art in the void!Phyllida Barlow links:Art 21 "Extended Play:" https://youtu.be/0gbkFHiMxNQ?si=l2mI45keL_7kXK0_Louisiana Channel: https://youtu.be/p7iDtyzEMCk?si=dck5eytNcqRTvHAlThe Cipher, a novel by Kathe KojaThe Middle Years, a short story by Henry James (re-edited 1907 version)Amy's Solo exhibition in Los Angeles (Atwater Village)"The Weight of Colors" at The Middle Room3229 Glendale Blvd, Los Angeles, CAOct 24-Nov 22, 2026It was wonderful to meet you all in LA!⁠https://www.themiddleroomgallery.com/exhibitions⁠Thank you, Peps Listeners!All music by Soundstripe----------------------------Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.amytalluto.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

Paul Klee loved working in a wide variety of styles at once in his paintings: abstract, representational, runic or symbolic. His oeuvre literally contains multitudes. I recently saw a show of his late works in New York at the Jewish Museum and was amazed at how many mediums and approaches to painting were on display. This episode honors him and his radical reconsideration of Painting with a side detour on Magritte. Come along for a wild ride!Klee works mentioned: Around the Fish 1926, Suffering Fruit 1934, Struck from the List 1933, This Star Teaches Bending 1940, Angel, Still Female 1939, Drinking Companion 1931Magritte works mentioned: Le Stropiat (version 1 and 2-both 1948), Jean-Marie 1948, A Stroke of Luck 1948, Seasickness 1948, The Famine 1948, The Pictorial Content 1948Host note: “The Famine” cheekily referenced the characters in a popular French comic series of the day called Adventures of the Pieds Nickelés (nickel plated feet)* created by Louis Forton and told the story of 3 bumbling and good for nothing criminals who constantly fail at their mission. *a French term for lazy slackersSee more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Pieds_Nickel%C3%A9sArtists mentioned: Paul Klee, Hilma af Klint, Agnes Martin, Giorgio Morandi, Hannah Wilke, René Magritte, Pablo Picasso, Emil Nolde, Wassily Kandinsky, Henri Rousseau, Ludwig Meidner, Richard Seewald, Oskar Kokoschka, Henri Matisse, Giorgio de Chirico, Gerhard Richter, Pierre-Auguste Renoir, André Breton, Diego Velázquez (Las Meninas 1656)Writers mentioned: Ralph Waldo Emerson, Sarah Gottesman, Charles W. Haxthausen, Wilhelm Hausenstein, Louis Scutenaire, George Kubler, Michael FoucaultLinks:Paul Klee: Other Possible Worlds exhibit at the Jewish Museum 2026https://thejewishmuseum.org/exhibitions/paul-klee-other-possible-worlds/Paul Klee’s Bauhaus Assignments: https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-how-to-be-an-artist-according-to-paul-kleePicasso’s Return to Order Period: https://theculturalcritic.com/picassos-conflict-how-the-great-war-caused-him-to-radically-change-his-style/Magritte's Vache Period: https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-9-times-historys-greatest-artists-made-bad-artworkshttps://www.tate.org.uk/tate-etc/issue-11-autumn-2007/ill-find-way-slip-great-big-incongruity-time-timehttps://www.moma.org/artists/3692-rene-magritteHannah Wilke's Flower Series:https://www.marcselwynfineart.com/exhibitions/hannah-wilke2#tab:thumbnails;tab-1:slideshowFoucault's essay "The Order of Things" (Les Mots et les Choses) on Velázquez and Klee:https://monoskop.org/images/a/a2/Foucault_Michel_The_Order_of_Things_1994.pdfMore on Charles W. "Mark" Haxthausen's paper: Paul Klee, Wilhelm Hausenstein, and the “Problem of Style” (2014)Watch: https://www.ias.edu/ideas/2014/haxthausen-klee-videoRead: https://www.academia.edu/6541479/Paul_Klee_Wilhelm_Hausenstein_and_the_Problem_of_Style_publication_Paul Klee books:Paul Klee: Other Possible Worlds by Mason Klein, Senior Curator at The Jewish MuseumPaul Klee: Life and Work by Michael Baumgartner, Christine Hopfengart, Fabienne Eggelhöfer, Osama OkudaAmy's Solo exhibition in Los Angeles (Atwater Village)"The Weight of Colors" at The Middle Room3229 Glendale Blvd, Los Angeles, CAOct 24-Nov 22, 2026Reception, Sat Oct 24 6-8 and Artist Talk, Sun Oct 25 1-3Come on out, y'all!https://www.themiddleroomgallery.com/exhibitionsThank you, Peps Listeners!All music by Soundstripe----------------------------Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.amytalluto.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

We're talking collage! Jennifer Coates joins me in a quest to get to the heart of why collage is such a powerful generator in the studio. We also take a look at 2 artists who used collage in different ways: Lee Krasner and Jess. Krasner used collage at certain key moments to bridge bodies of work, and Jess used collage as his main ecstatic medium spanning more than 4 decades of his output. As Krasner teaches us: "Knife or scissors...no tear! "Works by Lee Krasner mentioned: Seated Figure 1938-9; Milkweed, Stretched Yellow, Desert Moon, Bird Talk, Blue Level (all 1955); Imperfect Indicative 1976 (Visit Kasmin Gallery for images)Works by Jess mentioned: Blasted Beauty 1954, The Translations series, Paste-Ups series, Assemblies series, Necrofacts series, Salvages series, Narkissos series 1976-1991, The Unentitled Graces 1978, Dyslecstasy 1991 (See all of his works at https://jesscollins.org/)Glue Tawk™: Jennifer prefers Matte Medium and Amy agrees but suggests using UHU stick for thin papersLinks to watch/listen:⁠James Kalm Report⁠ on the Outsider Art Fair⁠Recording Artists: Radical Women Podcast:⁠ "Deal With It" on Lee Krasner⁠Inside New York's Art World ⁠1978 interview by Barbara Lee Diamondstein Spielvogel with Lee KrasnerProto-collage and assemblage objects & installations: Opificio delle Pietre Dure - Florence, Limoges Casket/Reliquary 13th c, Musée des Beaux-Arts de Lille, Capuchin Crypt under Santa Maria della Concezione dei Cappuccini, Rome, Shell Grotto, Margate, Kent, Paper lace valentines of the Victorian era, Wishing Trees of CornwallArtists mentioned: Hannah Hoch, Lee Krasner, Jess, Artists of the DADA movement, Georges Braque, Pablo Picasso, Wangechi Mutu, Mark Bradford, Chris Martin, Thomas Lanigan-Schmidt, Henri Matisse, Hans Hoffman, Piet Mondrian, Illuminators of the Book of Kells, Anne Ryan, Paul Klee, Amy Sillman, Lari Pittman, Marcel Duchamp, Clyfford Still, Hieronymus Bosch, Joseph Cornell, Andrea Burgay, Max-o-matic, Richard Diebenkorn, Robert Motherwell, Henri Matisse, Max Ernst, Kurt Schwitters, Grete SternWriters mentioned: Art Reporter and Critic: Stuart Preston; Poets: Robert Duncan and John Ashbery; Gail Levin; Charles Baudelaire; Edgar Allen PoeOur Book Nook (incl Collage Resources): Kolaj Magazine and online collage artist directoryThe Weird Show online survey of contemporary collageCut Me Up Magazine "Waste Not Want Not: An Inquiry into What Women Saved and Assembled—FEMMAGE" Essay by Miriam Schapiro and Melissa MeyerLee Krasner: A Biography by Gail LevinJess: To and From the Printed Page by JessFragmentary Forms: A New History of Collage by Freya GowrleyCollage by Women: 50 Essential Contemporary Artists by Rebeka Elizegi and Blanca OrtigaCutting Edges: Contemporary Collage published by GestaltenCollage: Assembling Contemporary Art edited by Anthony DowneyRobert Motherwell: Early Collages by Robert Motherwell, Susan Davidson, Megan Fontanella, Brandon Taylor, Jeffrey WardaFind my guest, Jennifer Coates, online:See her recent exhibition "Aniline Sky" at 1053 GalleryHer instagram: @jennifercoates666Thank you, Jennifer! Thank you, Peps Listeners!All music by Soundstripe----------------------------Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.amytalluto.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

Louise Bourgeois Part 2!Mandolyn Wilson Rosen is back in her Book Talks seat to help me dissect a new delicious art book: Drawings & Observations by Louise Bourgeois with Lawrence Rinder. Bourgeois referred to these sketches as her "thought feathers" and revealed her thinking behind the reproduced works in recordings transcribed by curator Lawrence Rinder. It was so cool to get these direct insights into her imagery.This episode is a sequel to the recording right before this one (about our trip to view Louise Bourgeois' NYC home). Check out Part 1 if you missed it!The Book/Monograph:Louise Bourgeois: Drawings and Observations, by Louise Bourgeois with Lawrence Rinder, pub 1995The Exhibition that the monograph accompanied:"Louise Bourgeois: Drawings" University of California, Berkeley's University Art Museum (UAM) from January 24 to March 24, 1996Works mentioned:View all here: https://www.amytalluto.com/lbpodPage 20 "Self Portrait" 1938 Pencil on paperPage 26-7 "Untitled" 1940Page 38 "Le Rebus" 1943Page 44-5 "Femme Maison" 1947 ink on paperPage 68-9 "Untitled" 1949 red ink and charcoal on paperPage 76-7 "Untitled" 1947 crayon, pen & ink and pencilPage 104-5 "Untitled" 1950 charcoalPage 114-5 "Untitled" 1950 ink on paperPage 126-7 "Untitled" 1967 ink and gouache on paperPage 156-7 "Untitled" 1988 Watercolor and Pencil on paperArtists mentioned: Jen Schwarting, Jean Michel Basquiat, Paul Klee, Joan Miro, Robert Gober, Nina Bovasso, Vicki Sher, Jack Whitten, Meret Oppenheim, Peter HalleyOther books mentioned: Peter Halley: Recent Essays 1990-1996 Edgewise Press, Inside the Studio: Two Decades of Talks with Artists in New York by Independent Curators International, New York, Jack Whitten: Notes from the Woodshed Hauser & WirthThank you to my guest Mandolyn Wilson Rosen! Find her online at:⁠MandolynWilsonRosen.com⁠ and IG ⁠@mandolyn_rosen⁠Thank you, Peps Listeners!All music by Soundstripe----------------------------Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.amytalluto.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

Beka Goedde and Mandolyn Wilson Rosen join me this episode to unpack our experience visiting renowned artist, Louise Bourgeois' home in NYC. We entered her historic brownstone and were immediately transported to another world and time. Louise lived a full life but was very much an artistic homebody. She made her home her studio in every sense of the word, stuffing each room full of materials to be on hand whenever inspiration struck. She found a way to balance family life with making her work and rode out long career lulls with grace and determination. Come along with us as we discuss our peek inside her sanctuary.More about Louise Bourgeois: https://www.moma.org/artists/710-louise-bourgeoishttps://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2013/oct/18/bourgeoishttps://hicarquitectura.com/2022/12/louise-bourgeoise-femme-maison/Great film about Louise Bourgeois: Louise Bourgeois: The Spider, the Mistress, and the Tangerine 2008Bourgeois works mentioned: "Arched Figure" 1993, "Maman" 1999Bourgeois exhibitions mentioned: The Women at Peggy Guggenheim's Art of This Century gallery NYC 1945, Eccentric Abstraction, curated by Lucy Lippard at The Fischbach Gallery NYC 1966 Artists / Writers mentioned: Joyce Kosloff, Faith Ringgold, Sylvia Sleigh, Lucy Lippard, Linda Nochlin, Joan Snyder, Nancy Spero, Howardena Pindell, Delacroix, Matisse, Suzanne ValadonBeka mentioned Felix Harlan, master printmaker and co-founder of Harlan & Weaver, a fine art print publishing studio who made so many Bourgeois prints.1973 Feminists' letter to William Rubin at MoMA: https://brooklynrail.org/2017/11/verbatim/Louise-Bourgeois-Breaking-the-Mold/Further reading: Louise Bourgeois: Drawings and Observations, Ed. Lawrence Rinder; Runaway Girl: The Artist Louise Bourgeois , a YA book by Jan Greenberg (with Sandra Jordan); "New York Real Estate and the Ruin of American Art" by Josh Kline / OctoberThank you to my guests, Beka Goedde and Mandolyn Wilson Rosen! Find them online at:BekaGoedde.com and @bekagoeddeMandolynWilsonRosen.com and @mandolyn_rosenThank you to the wonderful guides and archivists at the Louise Bourgeois home who made this episode possible.Thank you, Peps Listeners!All music by Soundstripe----------------------------Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.amytalluto.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

In this new Book Talks episode, Mandolyn Wilson Rosen is back to help me review a new art book: Jack Whitten: Notes From the Woodshed, Edited by Katy Siegel for Hauser & Wirth. Equal parts profound, strident and hilarious, Jack Whitten's (1939-2018) 50 year studio log packs a wallop. And it's meaty at 581 pages, so we had lots to discuss! Stick around to hear some sage advice, inspiring tales of studio experimentation and even some positive affirmations from this incredible painter and sculptor.Links to shows, videos, articles mentioned:⁠"Jack Whitten: The Messenger" Exhibition at MOMA 2025⁠⁠"Jack Whitten: Ready-nows" Two Coats of Paint Blog⁠⁠⁠Xerox PARC Artist-in-Residence (PAIR) program⁠⁠⁠Jack Whitten – ‘The Political is in the Work’ by TateShots⁠⁠Jack Whitten: An Artist's Life | Art21 "Extended Play"⁠⁠Uncovering Jack Whitten’s mysterious abstractions | HOW TO SEE (MOMA)⁠Artists mentioned: Willlem DeKooning, Robert Blackburn, Romare Bearden, Jacob Lawrence, Norman Lewis, Barnett Newman, Franz Kline, Gerhard Richter, Richard Serra, Ron Gorchov, Sol Lewitt, Frank Stella, Caravaggio, Berrisford Boothe, Kerry Downey, Amy Sillman, Jake BerthotWhitten works mentioned: "The Messenger: For Art Blakey," "Homecoming: For Miles," "Black Monolith 2: Homage to Ralph Ellison, The Invisible Man," "Head IV Lynching," Homage to Malcolm," "King's Wish (Martin Luther's Dream)," "King's Garden," The Slab Paintings, "Asa's Palace," Gray Paintings, Greek Alphabet Paintings, "Dead Reckoning I," "9-11-01," "Apps for Obama," "Nine Fire CDS: For the Fire Spitter (Jane Cortez)," "Zeitgeist Traps (For Michael Goldberg)," "Quantum Wall VIII for Arshile Gorky (My First Love in Painting)," "Crystal Palace: For Jeanne Siegel"Philosophers Jack loved: Immanuel Kant, Martin Heidegger, Edmund Husserl, Taha Hussein (Egyptian, Arab Renaissance), Friedrich Nietzsche, Slavoj ŽižekOther artist logs: Day Book by Anne TruittThe Andy Warhol Diaries Edited by Pat HackettPhilip Guston: Collected Writings, Lectures and Conversations Edited by Clark Coolidge Agnes Martin: Painting, Writings, Remembrances Edited by Arne GlimcherWhere to get the book:Hauser & Wirth , Abe Books, Thrift Books, Ebay, AmazonPlease find Mandolyn Wilson Rosen online here: ⁠⁠mandolynwilsonrosen.com⁠⁠ and IG ⁠⁠@mandolyn_rosen⁠⁠Thank you, Mandy! Thank you, Peps Listeners!All music by Soundstripe----------------------------Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.amytalluto.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

Artist, Judy Glantzman, is back on the pod this week to discuss her friend and incredible artist, Dawn Clements (1958-2018). Come along with me as I hear more about this brave, innovative artist who celebrated the idea of the ungovernable doodle. Her ink and gouache drawings span walls and rooms, yet she often made them folded up on trains and while lying in bed. It was wonderful to hear Judy's recollections of this artist I have long-admired. Exhibitions mentioned: James Barron Art "Dawn Clements: Paper Flowers" 2025Pierogi "Dawn Clements at the Boiler" 2010MANA Contemporary, Jersey City, NJ "Dawn Clements, Living Large: A Survey, " 2021Bates College Museum of Art, Lewiston, ME "Back and Forth" Dawn Clements and Marc Leuthold 2008Museum of Modern Art "High and Low: Modern Art and Popular Culture" 1990-91...and keep an eye out for Dawn's upcoming show at the RISD Museum!Dawn Clements works discussed: "Mrs. Jessica Drummond's Bedroom (My Reputation, 1946)" 2010, "Kitchen and Bathroom" 2003, "Tabletop (Black and White)" 2010, "The Boiler" 2010, "Triptych (Yaddo)" 2017, "Maele Luster" 2011, "Grass" 2017, "Oval" 1995-2000, Collaboration with Marc Leuthold 2008 PLUS find more images at Pierogi Residencies mentioned: Sint Trudo Abdij (Maele, Belgium), MacDowell, Yaddo, Civitella Ranieri FoundationOther artists mentioned: Janet Fish, Fra Angelico ("Noli me tangere", 1440–42. Fresco from the convent of San Marco, Florence), Jane Freilicher, Catherine Murphy, Morandi, David Wojnarowicz, Vija Celmins, George Condo, Gina Ruggeri, Charles Burchfield, Charles Garabedian, Mary TempleBook mentioned: "Looking at the Overlooked" by Norman BrysonLinks to online talks: Brooklyn Rail Panel: "Living Large: Dawn Clements"Vermont Studio Center LectureDawn's favorite art materials: PAPER • Fabriano Accademia roll paper, 80-lb., and Strathmore 400 drawing roll paper, 100-lb. INKS AND PENCILS • Sumi ink (both black and vermilion)• ballpoint pen (Bic Crystal or PaperMate medium point black)• No. 2 pencils WATERCOLOR • Sennelier GOUACHE: • Winsor & Newton BRUSHES • soft round watercolor-----Thank you to my guest, Judy Glantzman! Don't miss her upcoming solo show:"Playing with Dolls "Judy Glantzman atPPOW GalleryFeb 6 - March 14, 2026390 Broadway, 2nd Floor (2nd location)New York, NY 10013Also, find Judy on IG: @judyglantzmanThank you for listening!----------------------------Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.amytalluto.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

We're back for Part 2! Artist, Jennifer Coates joins me again to discuss 2 modern-day women mystic artists: Cornish Visionary, Ithell Colquhoun and Desert Transcendentalist, Agnes Pelton.Ithell Colquhoun links and mentions:"Papers of Ithell Colquhoun (1906-1988)" archive at Tate ModernThe Living Stones: Cornwall book by Ithell Colquhoun"The Mantic Stain" 1949 essay by Ithell Colquhoun "Dance of the Nine Opals" 1942 painting by Ithell Colquhoun "Scylla" 1938 painting by Ithell Colquhoun "Alcove" 1946 painting by Ithell Colquhoun Elliott Green, artistIthell Colquhoun: Between Worlds ed Katy Norris"Taro of Color": Ithell Colquhoun's Tarot Deck 1977Agnes Pelton links and mentions:Transcendental Painting Group, incl Raymond JohnsonHilma Af KlintHelena Blavatsky & Theosophy Alchemy 1937-9Mother of Silence 1933Photo of Agnes Pelton in Cathedral City 1932Mystical Book Nook⁠The Living Stones: Cornwall⁠ book by Ithell ColquhounIthell Colquhoun: Between Worlds⁠ ed Katy NorrisPractical Mysticism by Evelyn UnderhillOn Mysticism by Simon CritchleyHoly Feast and Holy Fast: The Religious Significance of Food to Medieval Women by Caroline Walker BynumIthell Colquhoun: Genius of The Fern Loved Gully by Amy Hale Weird Studies Podcast: Amy Hale episodeMedieval Women: the Curators' Lunchtime Lecture on You Tube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUgweMmuhyIMedieval Women: Voices and Visions (British Library) ed Julian Harrison & Eleanor Jackson Agnes Pelton: Desert Transcendentalist (Phoenix Art Museum) ed Gilbert VicarioThe Spiritual in Art: Abstract Painting from 1890 to 1985 ed Maurice TuchmanThanks so much to my guest cohost, Jennifer Coates! Find her online: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠web⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠IG⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Thanks to you for listening!~~~Visit Glögg Glǒgg, a pop up art faire, Dec 12-14, 2025 in Woodstock NY! More info: ⁠https://gloggglogg.my.canva.site/⁠ or on IG at ⁠@glogg_glogg⁠~~~All music by Soundstripe----------------------------Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.amytalluto.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

In this episode, Jennifer Coates returns to help me explore the spookily wonderful topic of Women Mystics and their connection to art and artists. In Part 1, we cover mystics from the Pythia of Ancient Greece to ecstatic visionaries like Hildegard von Bingen of the late Medieval era.P.S.: Keep an eye out for Part 2 where we dip into our fave 20th-century mystical artists.Ancient Mystics mentioned: The Pythia, priestesses of Apollo and the women behind the Oracle at Delphi (Greek) and the process of Dream Incubation by the Dream Oracles (Greek)Pythia/Oracle of Delphi deep dive (thanks, Gary!): 1. ⁠https://tinyurl.com/y8798eap⁠2. ⁠https://tinyurl.com/4vxkcsnu⁠3. ⁠https://tinyurl.com/mtz3rn24Medieval Mystics mentioned: Joan of Arc, Christine Carpenter (Anchoress), Julian of Norwich (Anchoress), Margery Kempe, Birgitta of Sweden, Teresa of Avila, Hildegard of Bingen and her artworks "Scivias 2.1: The Redeemer," "Scivias 1.6: The Choirs of Angels," "Book of Divine Works, Part 2, Vision 1: The Parts of the Earth: Living, Dying, and Purgatory" 1150-1230 and song "O Viridissima Virga" /“O branch of freshest green”Medieval Illuminator mentioned: Sibylla von Bondorf and her painting, "St Clare and a Group of Nuns Mourning St Francis of Assisi" 1478Films mentioned: "Anchoress" 1993, "Vision: From the Life of Hildegard von Bingen" 2009 starring Barbara Sukowa, dir by Margarethe von Trotta Book mentioned: "Medieval Women: Voices & Visions," ed by Eleanor Jackson and Julian HarrisonPotpourri: Jennifer's morbidanatomy.org class "Sensing the Supernatural Dead" taught by Jamie L. BrummittThanks so much to my guest cohost, Jennifer Coates! Find her online: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠web⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠IG⁠⁠⁠⁠Thanks to you for listening!~~~Visit Glögg Glǒgg, a pop up art faire, Dec 12-14 in Woodstock NY! More info: https://gloggglogg.my.canva.site/ or on IG at @glogg_glogg~~~All music by Soundstripe----------------------------Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks Website: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠⁠⁠Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy's website: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.amytalluto.com/⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!