221. This CEO Wore One Shirt for 60 Days to Prove Its Performance with Casey Hyde

Episode 140 featuring Sydney Stephens was originally posted on July 1, 2024. This episode is a repost.Now, two years later, hearing how to safely interact with bears feels more relevant than ever. We're seeing the vilification of predators under the Trump administration in Alaska, Minnesota, and beyond. These animals are just trying to survive, and perhaps it is time that we humans learn how to coexist. --------In episode 140, we enter bear country. Now, we’ve talked about bears on the show before with bear biologist Garret Tovey (⁠Episode 85⁠). That episode is a must-listen if you are planning to enter the bear country and want to know some practical bear safety tips. In this episode, we sit down with another bear biologist, but this time have a chance to hear about the bigger picture of bear conservation as a whole and what we can do to better coexist with larger predators like bears. Sydney Stephens is an experienced biologist with expertise in research, teaching, and outreach. Her work spans diverse fields including biology, chemistry, and geography. She is passionate about community outreach, and engages in guest lectures and museum tours, and has worked internationally and with incarcerated populations. Fieldwork highlights include studying bears, sheep, and lions across Lake Tahoe, India, and Kenya. At the time of the original recording, she was conducting research on wild bear populations in Italy and the Yellowstone region of the United States. INSTAGRAM: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/outdoor.minimalist.book/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠WEBSITE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theoutdoorminimalist.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YOUTUBE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@theoutdoorminimalist-----------------Sydney Stephens LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sydney-rae-stephens-37a6b3b5/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sydnystphns/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sydney.stephens.319/Research Gate: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Sydney-StephensIORAA: https://www.ioraa.org/

This week’s public lands news briefing covers:1. Interior Secretary Doug Burgum returns to Congress to defend the Trump administration’s FY27 Interior budget proposal2. The Department of the Interior transfers 1.4 million acres in Alaska’s Dalton Utility Corridor to the State of Alaska with John Gaedeke3. Alaska’s controversial Mulchatna bear control program continues amid ongoing legal challenges and scientific debate over predator control and caribou recovery with Jeff Stetz.Subscribe to the Outdoor Minimalist newsletter: https://www.theoutdoorminimalist.com/Sources & ResourcesHouse Natural Resources Committee Hearing Livestream: https://www.youtube.com/live/GJZ61HLI8s0DOI Press Release — Dalton Utility Corridor Transfer: https://www.doi.gov/pressreleases/interior-transfers-14-million-acres-dalton-utility-corridor-state-alaskaAlaska Department of Fish and Game — Mulchatna Herd Information: https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm

At the beginning of April, I published an article for SFGATE asking a simple but complicated question: Do clothing take-back programs actually reduce clothing production and fashion’s environmental impact?After speaking with brands like Levi Strauss & Co., Patagonia, and The North Face, the answer wasn’t exactly clear. Every brand approached take-back and resale differently, with different goals, systems, and definitions of success.Our guest today, Pancho Gomez, has spent the last two decades working at the intersection of technology, the outdoor industry, and social responsibility. Most recently, he led the Customer Experience team at Trove, helping build trade-in and resale programs for brands including Patagonia, Arc'teryx, Levi’s, and Carhartt.So I had to ask him: Are gear and clothing take-back programs actually helping build a circular economy, or are they just another form of greenwashing?In episode 222 of the Outdoor Minimalist podcast, Pancho takes us behind the scenes of how these programs operate, what brands gain from them, and whether resale can meaningfully reduce waste in the outdoor and fashion industries.Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/outdoor.minimalist.book/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theoutdoorminimalist.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@theoutdoorminimalistBuy Me a Coffee: ⁠⁠⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/outdoorminimalist⁠⁠⁠Listener Survey: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://forms.gle/jd8UCN2LL3AQst976⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠------------------Episode ResourcesSF Gate Article: https://www.sfgate.com/shopping/article/clothing-take-back-programs-explained-22187338.phpConnect with Pancho Gomez: https://www.becausewhy.net/

The clothing brand TEREN was built on a simple idea: pack less, adventure more. Now, their first hire, Casey Hyde, has stepped in as CEO to lead the brand’s next chapter.In episode 221 of the Outdoor Minimalist Podcast, Casey shares how he wore the brand’s Traveler Tee for 60 days and its Traveler Pants for 45 days before washing—an experiment designed to challenge how often we wash, pack, and replace our clothing. His takeaway? Most of us are overpacking, overwashing, and overconsuming far more than necessary.Now, he’s applying those lessons to scaling a brand rooted in the idea of an “evergreen wardrobe,” rather than chasing seasonal trends.Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/outdoor.minimalist.book/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theoutdoorminimalist.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@theoutdoorminimalistBuy Me a Coffee: ⁠⁠⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/outdoorminimalist⁠⁠⁠Listener Survey: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://forms.gle/jd8UCN2LL3AQst976⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠------------------Teren DesignsWebsite: https://terendesigns.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/terendesignsYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QEDwqOYyOyulXq0X2v1DgTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@terendesignsHow to Reduce Microplastics from Your Laundry Loads: https://www.sfgate.com/shopping/article/how-to-reduce-microplastics-in-laundry-21116303.php

This Friday, we're covering: 1. Doug Burgum defends the Fiscal Year 2027 Budget for the Department of the Interior before Congress2. Senator Martin Heinrich questions Brooke Rollins on the Forest Service Reorganization 3. Republicans package Steve Pearce, nominated to be the next director of the Bureau of Land Management, in an en bloc vote with 49 other nominations ft. Michael Carroll, Director of BLM Campaigns for the Wilderness Society (https://www.wilderness.org/)4. Forest Service opens a 45-day comment period for an old-growth logging plan in the Tongass National Forest. Nathan Newcomer from the Southeast Alaska Conservation Council (https://seacc.org/)Call the U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121Subscribe to the Outdoor Minimalist newsletter: ⁠https://www.theoutdoorminimalist.com

In 2023, we released an episode about eco-anxiety that quickly became one of the most listened-to conversations on this show, and landed us our first award. But honestly, that didn’t surprise me. More and more people are feeling overwhelmed by the state of the world—whether it’s the climate crisis, the 24-hour news cycle, political instability, or just the constant sense that everything is happening all at once.So in episode 220 of the Outdoor Minimalist podcast, I wanted to revisit that topic, but from a slightly broader perspective with the help of my guest, Laura Hartley.Laura is a leadership coach & climate activist helping changemakers deepen their impact while living their most thriving life. Fascinated by the relationship between inner and outer change, Laura bridges systems thinking with self-work to empower changemakers with the skills of dismantling capitalism and patriarchy from the inside out.  Together, we explore how eco-anxiety fits into the wider landscape of burnout, information overload, and the pressure many people feel to personally “fix” the world’s problems. We talk about how our economic and cultural systems—things like individualism, capitalism, and the myth of the lone hero—shape the way we experience stress and responsibility in the climate movement.But we also explore the other side of that conversation: community, hope, and how reconnecting with each other—and the natural world—can change the way we navigate these feelings.An important note before we hear the interview: This episode discusses topics like anxiety, burnout, and emotional responses to climate change. However, neither my guest nor I is a trained therapist or mental health professional. This conversation is meant to explore ideas and share perspectives, not provide medical advice. If you’re experiencing severe anxiety, distress, or other mental health symptoms, please consider seeking support from a qualified mental health professional.Climate Anxiety Help Line: https://www.crisistextline.org/topics/climate-anxiety-resources/Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/outdoor.minimalist.book/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theoutdoorminimalist.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@theoutdoorminimalistBuy Me a Coffee: ⁠⁠⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/outdoorminimalist⁠⁠⁠Listener Survey: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://forms.gle/jd8UCN2LL3AQst976⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠------------------Laura HartleyWebsite: https://laurahartley.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/laurahartleypubliclove/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/laura.h.hartleyLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-hartley-/

This week’s public lands news briefing covers:1. Recent Big Bend border wall lawsuits with Laiken Jordahl (Center for Biological Diversity)2. The proposed FY2027 Department of the Interior budget and its impacts on BLM lands with Chris Hill (Conservation Lands Foundation)3. The Senate’s passage of H.J. Res. 140, overturning Boundary Waters mining protectionsResources & Links:Senate roll call vote for H.J. Res. 140: https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1192/vote_119_2_00084.htmCall the U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121Center for Biological Diversity: https://biologicaldiversity.orgConservation Lands Foundation: https://www.conservationlands.orgSubscribe to the Outdoor Minimalist newsletter: https://www.theoutdoorminimalist.com

What if the most sustainable outdoor product… is one that you never buy in the first place?The outdoor industry has spent years talking about circularity—repair programs, resale platforms, and recycling initiatives designed to keep gear out of landfills. But there’s one idea that rarely makes it into the conversation: renting.In episode 219 of the Outdoor Minimalist podcast, I’m joined by returning guest Reet Singh, co-founder of TripOutside, to explore a question that could reshape how outdoor gear is designed, sold, and used: Is renting the missing link in a truly circular outdoor economy?Reet argues that many of the products we buy—skis, kayaks, mountain bikes, even backpacks—are used only a fraction of their lifespan before spending most of their time sitting in garages or closets. What if brands made renting those products just as easy as buying them? And what if that shift could reduce waste and lower costs for consumers, all while still being profitable for companies?Reet Singh is the co-founder of TripOutside, a platform that helps people discover and book human-powered outdoor adventures through local outfitters. When he’s not building tools to help more people get outside, you can usually find him mountain biking, scrambling peaks, snowboarding, or introducing someone new to their first outdoor adventure.Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/outdoor.minimalist.book/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theoutdoorminimalist.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@theoutdoorminimalistBuy Me a Coffee: ⁠⁠⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/outdoorminimalist⁠⁠⁠Listener Survey: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://forms.gle/jd8UCN2LL3AQst976⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠------------------Trip OutsideWebsite: https://tripoutside.com/Email: [email protected]: https://www.instagram.com/trip.outside/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/tripoutsideYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGv2CO1r2lfMLPmVu29wt-QLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/themanreet/

Plastic has infiltrated every facet of our lives. It is essentially inescapable. And while plastic is now a normalized material that we interact with every day, the health impacts are becoming harder and harder to ignore. The Plastic Detox, a new documentary now available on Netflix, examines how much plastic is impacting our health and whether it is possible to detox our bodies from continued exposure. It combines the science behind these health concerns with real human experiences for a compelling story about human resilience and the solutions to a few of the problems plastic has plagued us with. In episode 218 of the Outdoor Minimalist podcast, I had the pleasure of sitting down with one of the film’s producers and directors, Josh Murphy, to discuss what went into making the film and how stories like these can help us better understand the plastic pollution crisis while inspiring us to take action in our own lives. Josh Murphy is an Emmy Award–winning filmmaker, director, producer, and writer whose work focuses on character-driven stories at the intersection of humanity and the environment. His films often explore climate, conservation, and human resilience through compelling storytelling.His credits include producing the Tribeca-winning film Here Alone, co-producing The Push, contributing to Alex Gibney’s documentary The Inventor, and directing the acclaimed documentary Artifishal, commissioned by Patagonia founder Yvon Chouinard. Most recently, he won an Emmy for the Netflix series You Are What You Eat: A Twins Experiment and co-directed and produced the Netflix documentary The Plastic Detox. Before entering filmmaking, he trained as a natural resource scientist and fisheries biologist, inspired early on by Jacques Cousteau’s blend of exploration, storytelling, and environmental advocacy.Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/outdoor.minimalist.book/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theoutdoorminimalist.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@theoutdoorminimalistBuy Me a Coffee: ⁠⁠⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/outdoorminimalist⁠⁠⁠Listener Survey: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://forms.gle/jd8UCN2LL3AQst976⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠------------------Josh "Bones" MurphyIMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3096202/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josh-bones-murphy-92313113/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joshbonesmurphy/The Plastic Detox: https://www.netflix.com/title/82074244

In this week's public lands news briefing, we cover three main stories:1. The Trump administration has begun the process of potentially reversing federal protections for the lands surrounding Chaco Culture National Historical Park in northwestern New Mexico2. Senator Mike Lee and Rep. Celeste Maloy introduced a joint resolution to undo the Grand Staircase-Escalante management plan using the Congressional Review Act ft. Steve Bloch, the legal director for the Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance3. The U.S. Department of Agriculture announced the reorganization plan for the U.S. Forest Service ft. Josh Hicks, Conservation Campaigns Director at The Wilderness SocietyWe can only cover a limited number of stories in our Friday public lands news briefing, and a lot more has happened in the last two weeks concerning our public lands. So, be sure you’re subscribed to our weekly newsletter at theoutdoorminimalist.com and follow up on Instagram (@outdoor.minimalist.book) for more frequent updates throughout the week. Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/outdoor.minimalist.book/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theoutdoorminimalist.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@theoutdoorminimalistBuy Me a Coffee: ⁠⁠⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/outdoorminimalist⁠⁠⁠Listener Survey: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://forms.gle/jd8UCN2LL3AQst976⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠------------Episodes Resources:Comment on Chaco Canyon: https://eplanning.blm.gov/Project-Home/?id=D949F582-402D-F111-8341-001DD804183BArchaeology Southwest YouTube Video: https://youtu.be/ol8-AiG6lxg?si=0G-NINyf_vtS_JmbForest Service Reorganization: https://www.fs.usda.gov/sites/default/files/organizational-realignment-factsheet.pdf