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What Is Hearsay? Former Prosecutors Explain What Actually Counts

9/26/2026
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Hearsay is an out-of-court statement offered to prove that what it says is true, and even when something is hearsay, Pennsylvania's rules of evidence let a lot of it into court anyway.


On this episode of Now We Defend, former prosecutors T.L. Kearney, Tim Long, and Justin Baran unpack one of the most misunderstood objections in criminal court. Clients tell us all the time that something "won't hold up because it's hearsay." Most of the time, that's not how it works.


We cover the real definition, why the rule exists, your Sixth Amendment right to confront your accusers, and the exceptions that put secondhand statements in front of a jury. Plus: how a guy who swears he's not dying could keep his own statement out of court.


✅ What hearsay actually means (and what it doesn't)

✅ The "effect on the listener" workaround

✅ Hearsay within hearsay

✅ Texts, bodycam, 911 calls, and "it's AI" claims

✅ Relevance, unfair prejudice, and speculation objections

✅ Excited utterances, business records, and your own statements to police

✅ Unavailable witnesses and dying declarations


CHAPTERS


0:00 Objection, hearsay

0:41 What hearsay actually means

3:21 A simple hearsay example

4:33 Not for the truth: effect on the listener

9:00 Why the hearsay rule exists

12:41 The three-step hearsay roadmap

14:31 Hearsay within hearsay

17:23 Texts, recordings, and social media

19:15 Relevance and other objections

22:47 "It's AI": authenticating evidence

27:30 Unfair prejudice and prior bad acts

32:16 Speculation

36:30 Why hearsay exceptions exist

38:42 Juries, body language, and virtual trials

43:15 Present sense impressions and excited utterances

48:17 Medical statements and physical condition

49:21 Recorded recollection

53:05 Business and public records

58:34 Unavailable witnesses and former testimony

1:00:51 Statements against interest

1:02:16 Dying declarations

1:13:12 A party's own statements

1:15:03 Prior inconsistent and consistent statements

1:18:17 The one question to ask


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