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Hello and Welcome to Conditionally Accepted! I'm Ding Li, an AI and HCI researcher, and Conditionaly Accepted is my show about research, work, and life at the intersection of humans and technology. Today, I have the pleasure of speaking with Toby Li, an assistant professor at the University of Notre Dame. Toby's research focuses on designing practical, human-centered AI systems for those really complex, knowledge-intensive tasks we face every day. He recently became the director of the Human-Centered Responsible AI Lab at the Lucey Family Institute for Data Science and Society. In this episode, we explore Toby's journey as a new faculty member and how he's building his research group from the ground up. Toby shares his unique approach to fostering a thriving lab culture, emphasizing the importance of open communication, trust, and always putting his students' interests first. We also get into some really interesting discussions about the potential pitfalls of algorithmic management at Amazon warehouses, the realities of academic salaries, and his vision for the future of responsible AI. Toby's candid insights make this a truly captivating conversation. So without further ado, let's dive right in! 💬 💬 💬 💬 💬 Reach out to me: 📧 Email: [email protected] 📱 Signal/WhatsApp: (+1) 206-745-2849 💡🎙️Let me know your feedback and suggest future topics and guests! 🎧🎧🎧🎧🎧 Listen Now: 🍎 Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/conditionally-accepted-with-ding-li/id1649122789 🎵 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0TJvQWAJQLVmS1FA1Z0qYO 🌐 All Other Platforms: https://lidingzeyu.com/show/subscribe 🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝 Connect with Me: 🐦 Twitter/X: https://x.com/dingzeyuli 🧵 Threads: https://www.threads.net/@dingzeyuli 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dingzeyuli 🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@conditionallyaccepted Chapters: 0:00 Introduction and Welcome 0:50 Starting a Research Lab During the Pandemic 2:56 Building Lab Culture 6:57 PhD Mentorship Philosophy 10:45 Defining Success in Academia 17:40 Interdisciplinary Collaboration and Community Building 28:15 Fostering Lab Community and Casual Connections 43:56 Human-Centered Responsible AI 58:00 Balancing Opportunities and Growth

In this episode, we discuss strategies for wrapping up your PhD dissertation and preparing for life after grad school. I am your Host, Ding Li. and today we have Henrique and David share their experiences around finalizing PhD theses. We talk about focusing on the minimum viable product rather than perfectionism. A done thesis is better than a perfect thesis. Later in the show, we dive into the PhD job hunt - when to start applying, how many jobs to apply to, and skills like communication that are crucial for interviews. We also discussed the importance of talking to people who recently graduated to get insider perspectives on companies and positions. Stick around as we reflect on the stress of the PhD job search and how to evaluate different job offers. Whether you're still developing your thesis or already interviewing for your next steps after graduating, we hope this episode provides some guidance and reassurance during this transitional period. Leave a comment in the youtube video or email me at [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRZzkxDroA3qS6EpTJy014w

Large language models and GPT are trending these days. In this episode, Henrique and I sit down with David watkins from Boston Dynamic AI institute. We talk about how LLM is transforming robotics research. We dive into the cutting-edge research happening around generative models and foundation models like GPT, and how these powerful AI systems can be applied to robotics to enable new capabilities. David provides unique insights into the challenges and opportunities of training robots to function more intelligently in dynamic real-world environments. Since we all work closely with academia, we also discussed on why top universities are currently absent from the LLM race. It seems like the rich universities do have a ton of endowment funds at a comparable level as the top tech firms, what are the reasons they are not engaging on LLM trainings? If you haven't subscribed already please like and subscribe now. Rich universities have comparable endownment fund as tech firms: tweet Leave a comment in the youtube video or email me at [email protected]

If you are still working towards your PhD degree, this episode is for you! In this week's episode, we dive deep into the challenges and opportunities facing early PhD students. From navigating idea generation to building key connections, Henrique and Rohan share their personal stories and advice for surviving and thriving as a beginner in academia. We discussed the messy behind-the-scenes struggles most students face but rarely discuss out loud. We talked about the importance of invest in yourself and be patient. How to deal with peer pressure and sometime self-pressure. I wished I could hear discussions like this when I started my PhD journey and I hope you find it helpful too. 0:00 - Intro 1:13 - Rohan: The challenge of early PhD years - Being patient with yourself 6:25 - Henrique: How to deal peer pressure and/or self-imposed pressure 21:30 - When to build vs when to buy 27:40 - Celebrating small wins and taking all the help you can early on 34:10 - Ding's two stories on asking questions and reaching out to people 40:01 - How to keep oneself motivated. 44:49 - Pair up with peers in your field 49:03 - The Ira Glass quote on creativity and taste 51:00 - Project timelines across subfields Leave a comment in the youtube video or email me at [email protected]

Since 2020, many people at different tech companies have switched to a hybrid and remote work style, myself included and the same for many friends. Although this is already more or less true even before covid, now I feel like it's the default and I can't see a future where 100% in-person work makes sense for a lot of the software jobs out there. In this episode, Henrique and I chatted about how we feel about this change, and how we are adapting to it. We also touched on some related topics like how to decide which meetings to attend, and how to do mentorship over zoom. We also talked about the speaker coach feature in MS Teams, which is a really cool feature that I didn't know about before. 0:00 Listener feedback from last episode on fatigue. 5:12 How does it feel to work in a distributed team? 9:01 How do you decide which meetings to attend? 24:41 Will you take a fully in-person job in the future? 32:47 Mentorship over zoom (and its challenges). 36:47 Speaker Coach feature in MS Teams. Leave a comment in the youtube video or email me at [email protected]

0:00 intro and work fatigue 6:05 work life balance & setting boundaries 15:54 when to ask question? 23:30 using chat bot at work 32:47 meeting versus building Leave a comment in the youtube video or email me at [email protected]

A listener emailed me asking what to expect when switching from big tech to be a research lead at a smaller company. This inspires me to record this episode to share my thoughts on different roles researchers will take on in small/medium/large companies. 0:00 question from listener 1:57 in small company (no product yet) 5:08 in medium company (1-2 products) 7:01 in large company (a family of products) 9:30 switching from big tech to startup 📤 Leave a comment in the youtube video or email me at [email protected]

What makes a good research internship? 0:00 Intro 1:16 Two types of goals 2:23 Type 1: Measurable outcomes: patents, papers, tech transfers 5:17 Type 2: Hard to measure outcome: do I want to work here? 10:06 Conclusion Leave a comment in the youtube video or email me at [email protected]

Zahra and I talked about her recent move from SF to Manchester UK and becoming a professor. She also shared about her experience leaving Disney Research and her thoughts around industry versus academia. Zahra Montazeri: LinkedIn Homepage