Jess Cattelly Turned a Third Date Into a Swingers Empire

Today, we’re stepping into a world most of us have only ever heard whispers about: the world of swingers clubs. When she was just twenty, Jess Cattelly went on a third date that would change her life. Her date, a man named Lawrence, suggested they open a swingers club together—and she said yes. A decade later, that club—Our Secret Spot—has become one of Australia’s most talked-about spaces for people exploring sex, desire, and connection in unconventional ways. In this episode, Jess shares how a 20-year-old retail manager became the co-founder of a thriving sex-positive community. She opens up about what it’s really like behind closed doors, the challenges of running a swingers club, and how she’s built a business around curiosity, courage, and connection. Whether you’re fascinated, intrigued, or just a little bit curious, this is the story of a woman who turned a wild idea into a groundbreaking reality. THE END BITS: Listen to more No Filter interviews here and follow us on Instagram here. Discover more Mamamia podcasts here. Feedback: [email protected] Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message, and one of our Podcast Producers will get back to you ASAP. Rate or review us on Apple by clicking on the three dots in the top right-hand corner, click Go To Show then scroll down to the bottom of the page, click on the stars at the bottom and write a review CREDITS: Guest: Jess Cattelly Host: Kate Langbroek Executive Producer: Naima Brown Senior Producer: Bree Player Audio Producer: Tina Matolov Video Producer: Josh Green This episode of No Filter was recorded at Session In Progress studio.  Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sara Bareilles has built a career on being brave enough to tell the truth, even when it hurts. In this episode of No Filter, she opens up about the story behind her breakthrough hit Love Song... and it’s not what you think. Sara reflects on the pressures she faced growing up, the challenges of trying to fit in, and a letter she once wrote to her 17-year-old self. Along the way, she shares the lessons she’s learned about resilience, creativity, and finding your voice in a world that often tells you to stay small. Her hit musical Waitress is now coming to Australia, and if you’ve ever needed a reminder that it’s never too late to start again, this conversation and Sara’s music, will give it to you. For more information and tickets to see Waitress go here. THE END BITS: Listen to more No Filter interviews here and follow us on Instagram here. Discover more Mamamia podcasts here. Feedback: [email protected] Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message, and one of our Podcast Producers will get back to you ASAP. Rate or review us on Apple by clicking on the three dots in the top right-hand corner, click Go To Show then scroll down to the bottom of the page, click on the stars at the bottom and write a review CREDITS: Guest: Sara Bareilles Host: Naima Brown Senior Producer: Bree Player Audio Producer: Tina Matolov Video Producer: Josh Green Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

For years, the Duggar family was one of America’s most famous and most controversial reality TV dynasties. Their show 19 Kids and Counting turned their strict religious beliefs and enormous family into entertainment. But behind the carefully controlled public image was a much darker reality. Amy Duggar King, known to viewers as the “rebel” or “crazy cousin,” grew up alongside the Duggars, but her childhood looked very different. Now she’s telling her story about what it was really like growing up on the fringes of that world, what she saw happening behind the scenes, and why she refuses to stay silent. In this episode of No Filter, Amy opens up about family loyalty, generational trauma, and how she’s reclaiming her voice after years of being told to be quiet. If you or anyone you know needs to speak with an expert, please contact 1800 RESPECT (1800 737 732) — the National Sexual Assault, domestic and Family Violence Counselling Service. THE END BITS: Listen to more No Filter interviews here and follow us on Instagram here. Discover more Mamamia podcasts here. Feedback: [email protected] Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message, and one of our Podcast Producers will get back to you ASAP. Rate or review us on Apple by clicking on the three dots in the top right-hand corner, click Go To Show then scroll down to the bottom of the page, click on the stars at the bottom and write a review CREDITS: Guest: Amy Duggar King Host: Kate Langbroek Executive Producer: Naima Brown Senior Producer: Bree Player Audio Producer: Tina Matolov Video Producer: Josh Green This episode of No Filter was recorded at Session In Progress studio.  Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Lucy Ormonde thought she was too young to get breast cancer. She wasn’t. At 37, Lucy believed she was healthy, she had no family history or any of the risk factors we generally associate with cancer. But cancer found her anyway. In this special episode of No Filter, Holly Wainwright speaks with Lucy to mark the end of Breast Cancer Awareness month. No woman in Australia hasn't been touched in some way by breast cancer. And Lucy has some hard-won wisdom to share with us: like, what's the most useful stuff you can do when somebody is right in that heat of finding out that everything in their life has shifted in just a few words that came out of their doctor's mouth, why it's not over when it's officially over, and what really happens to your priorities and your life when you go through something as profound as this. You can find Lucy's Substack 'A Year of Healing' here. More information on the Breast Cancer Network Australia here. THE END BITS: Listen to more No Filter interviews here and follow us on Instagram here. Discover more Mamamia podcasts here. Feedback: [email protected]  Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message, and one of our Podcast Producers will get back to you ASAP. Rate or review us on Apple by clicking on the three dots in the top right-hand corner, click Go To Show then scroll down to the bottom of the page, click on the stars at the bottom and write a review. CREDITS: Guest: Lucy Ormonde  Host: Holly Wainwright Executive Producer: Naima Brown Senior Producer: Bree Player Audio Producer: Tina Matolov Video Producer: Josh Green Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On this episode of No Filter, Kate Langbroek speaks with Sarah Kopp, a survivor, advocate, and the founder of Step In For Kids. Sarah’s story is heartbreaking, complex, and ultimately inspiring. As a teenager, Sarah was groomed by her teacher. That relationship would go on to become even more complicated when she married him. Years later, she found the courage to report him to police and confront her past, taking control of her story in a way that took extraordinary bravery. Today, Sarah is dedicated to protecting children and supporting survivors through her work with Step In For Kids, transforming her painful experiences into a force for change. In this conversation, Sarah shares her journey with honesty, courage, and compassion. She talks about surviving trauma, reclaiming her voice, and the work she’s doing to make the world a safer place for children. Step In For Kids was founded by survivor and educator Sarah Kopp to protect children from grooming and sexual abuse. For more information go here.  Content warning: This article contains descriptions of child abuse. If you or anyone you know needs expert help, please contact Bravehearts — an organisation providing support to victims of child abuse. If you are concerned about the welfare of a child, you can get advice from the Child Abuse Protection Hotline (1800 688 009) or the 24-Hour Child Abuse Report Line (131 478). THE END BITS: Listen to more No Filter interviews here and follow us on Instagram here. Discover more Mamamia podcasts here. Feedback: [email protected] Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message, and one of our Podcast Producers will get back to you ASAP. Rate or review us on Apple by clicking on the three dots in the top right-hand corner, click Go To Show then scroll down to the bottom of the page, click on the stars at the bottom and write a review CREDITS: Guest: Sarah Kopp Host: Kate Langbroek Executive Producer: Naima Brown Senior Producer: Bree Player Audio Producer: Jacob Round Video Producer: Josh Green This episode of No Filter was recorded at Session In Progress studio.  Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sarah Todd and Declan Cleary first met on MasterChef Australia: Back To Win, a high-pressure, career-focused environment that unexpectedly sparked a romance. In this episode, they share the story of how their friendship grew into love, navigating the challenges of reality TV, an 11-year age gap, and blending their lives together—including introducing Declan to Sarah’s 14-year-old son, Phoenix. From their first mountaintop breakfast date in the Grampians to moving in together in Melbourne, Sarah and Declan open up about the highs, the anxieties, and the everyday moments that have shaped their relationship. They also reveal the details of some very exciting news... THE END BITS: Listen to more No Filter interviews here and follow us on Instagram here. Discover more Mamamia podcasts here. Feedback: [email protected] Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message, and one of our Podcast Producers will get back to you ASAP. Rate or review us on Apple by clicking on the three dots in the top right-hand corner, click Go To Show then scroll down to the bottom of the page, click on the stars at the bottom and write a review CREDITS: Guests: Sarah Todd and Declan Cleary Host: Kate Langbroek Executive Producer: Naima Brown Senior Producer: Bree Player Producer: Tina Matolov Audio Producer: Jacob Round Video Producer: Josh Green This episode of No Filter was recorded at Session In Progress studio.  Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Laura Brown and Kristina O’Neill had the kind of jobs most people only dream about. They were the women behind some of the world’s most glamorous magazines — InStyle, Harper’s Bazaar, WSJ. Magazine — sitting front row at fashion week, rubbing shoulders with celebs on covershoots, and setting the cultural agenda. But then, both of them got fired. In an industry built on power, prestige, and appearances, being shown the door at the very top should have been devastating. Instead, it sparked a friendship, a book, and a movement. Their manifesto All the Cool Girls Get Fired is about stripping away the shame of job loss and reframing it as a rite of passage. In this conversation with Kate Langbroek, Laura and Kristina open up about what it’s really like to lose your dream job, the night out that led to their viral “all the cool girls get fired” post, and how even icons like Oprah and Lisa Kudrow have their own firing stories. It’s about friendship, resilience, and reinvention — and why getting fired might just be the best thing that ever happens to you. THE END BITS: Listen to more No Filter interviews here and follow us on Instagram here. Discover more Mamamia podcasts here. Feedback: [email protected] Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message, and one of our Podcast Producers will get back to you ASAP. Rate or review us on Apple by clicking on the three dots in the top right-hand corner, click Go To Show then scroll down to the bottom of the page, click on the stars at the bottom and write a review CREDITS: Guests: Laura Brown and Kristina O'Neill Host: Kate Langbroek Executive Producer: Naima Brown Senior Producer: Bree Player Audio Producer: Jacob Round Video Producer: Josh Green Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aisha Dee isn’t afraid to speak her truth. On this epsiode of No Filter, guest hosted by Laura Brodnik, The Bold Type star opens up about stepping into her queerness on screen, the ways her iconic character helped her explore her own sexuality, and the struggles of being a young woman navigating Hollywood while staying true to herself. She gets candid about her decade-long battle with endometriosis and PCOS - the chronic pain, the surgeries, and the fight to have her experiences taken seriously. Aisha also talks about her latest project, Watching You, an intense psychological thriller, and why she’s drawn to messy, morally gray characters that push her to take risks. From the highs of red carpets to the quiet victories at home with family, Aisha shares the moments that shape her life, career, and identity, all with honesty, humour, and heart. You can follow Aisha Dee here.  THE END BITS: Listen to more No Filter interviews here and follow us on Instagram here Discover more Mamamia podcasts here Feedback: [email protected]  Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message, and one of our Podcast Producers will get back to you ASAP. Rate or review us on Apple by clicking on the three dots in the top right-hand corner, click Go To Show then scroll down to the bottom of the page, click on the stars at the bottom and write a review CREDITS: Guest: Aisha Dee Host: Laura Brodnik Executive Producer: Naima Brown Senior Producer: Bree Player Audio Producer: Jacob Round Video Producer: Josh Green Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Clare Stephens has spent more than a decade telling other people’s stories — as a writer, editor, podcaster, and now, novelist. As Senior Editor at Mamamia, she helped shape the conversations that defined a generation. But stepping away from the brand, the platform, and the noise forced her to ask: Who am I, really? In this conversation, Clare opens up about the emotional toll of being cancelled online, the experience of being constantly compared to her twin sister, and the fear - and freedom - that came with walking away from the brand where she built her name. With her debut novel The Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done about to be released, Clare speaks candidly about the uncomfortable exploration of cancel culture, morality, and what happens when you become the villain in someone else’s story. You can follow Clare Stephens here.  THE END BITS: Listen to more No Filter interviews here and follow us on Instagram here. Discover more Mamamia podcasts here. Feedback: [email protected] Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message, and one of our Podcast Producers will get back to you ASAP. Rate or review us on Apple by clicking on the three dots in the top right-hand corner, click Go To Show then scroll down to the bottom of the page, click on the stars at the bottom and write a review CREDITS: Guest: Clare Stephens Host: Kate Langbroek Executive Producer: Naima Brown Senior Producer: Bree Player Audio Producer: Jacob Round Video Producer: Josh Green Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Perrie Edwards has lived many lives - from global pop stardom with Little Mix to navigating heartbreak and motherhood in the public eye. But now, she’s stepping into something new: a solo career that’s deeply personal and entirely her own.  In this conversation, Perrie opens up about the pressure of going solo after years of success with one of the biggest girl groups in the world, the heartbreak behind her first solo single 'Forget About Us', and how becoming a mother shifted everything. She talks honestly about her decade-long relationship with footballer Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, the quiet grief of pregnancy loss, and the challenge of carving out her own space away from the spotlight. With her debut solo album set to launch and another baby on the way, Perrie is stepping into a whole new chapter both personally and professionally. This is a conversation about what happens when you stop trying to please everyone else and finally make something just for you. THE END BITS: Listen to more No Filter interviews here and follow us on Instagram here Discover more Mamamia podcasts here Feedback: [email protected]  Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message, and one of our Podcast Producers will get back to you ASAP. Rate or review us on Apple by clicking on the three dots in the top right-hand corner, click Go To Show then scroll down to the bottom of the page, click on the stars at the bottom and write a review CREDITS: Guest: Perrie Edwards Host: Laura Brodnik Executive Producer: Naima Brown Senior Producer: Bree Player Audio Producer: Jacob Round Video Producer: Josh Green Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.