The Finley Creek Jane Doe and the Disappearance of Patty Otto: A Conversation with Suzanne Timms and Mel Jederberg

Happy Halloween!The Cheat Sheet is The Murder Sheet's segment breaking down weekly news and updates in some of the murder cases we cover. In this episode, we'll talk about cases from Indiana, New York, Oregon, and Georgia.Syracuse.com's coverage of the case of Miequin Cheese and the murder of Lakquan Golden: https://www.syracuse.com/crime/2024/11/a-potential-jurors-nod-of-the-head-has-led-to-a-syracuse-murder-conviction-being-overturned.htmlMore coverage from Syracuse.com on the case of Miequin Cheese and the murder of Lakquan Golden: https://www.syracuse.com/crime/2025/10/mans-second-murder-trial-begins-after-conviction-was-overturned-for-a-jurors-nod.htmlOregonLive's coverage of recent cases in Oregon that have been impacted by that state questioning the reliability of ballistics testimony: https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2025/06/method-to-analyze-gun-evidence-not-scientifically-valid-oregon-court-says-in-major-ruling.htmlOregonLive's coverage of recent cases in Oregon that have been impacted by that state questioning the reliability of ballistics testimony: https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2025/10/court-overturns-portland-murder-conviction-citing-recent-landmark-ruling-on-gun-evidence.htmlFox5 Atlanta's coverage of the Billy Joe Cagle arrest: https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/atlanta-airport-arrest-phone-calls-reveal-moments-before-billy-joe-cagles-arrestCBS News' coverage of Billy Joe Cagle's family's courageous decision: https://www.cbsnews.com/atlanta/news/atlanta-airport-shooting-threat-averted-billy-joe-cagles-family-speaks-out/Fox 59 reports on a plea deal in the case of the would-be Mooresville High School Shooter Trinity Shockley: https://fox59.com/news/indycrime/plea-agreement-filed-in-case-of-would-be-mooresville-hs-school-shooter/Find discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to [email protected] Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.Your home should be your refuge. But as true crime podcasters we can tell you that criminals are out there willing to violate your peace and security for whatever insidious motive. It’s a real danger and it’s probably one of the scariest things that can happen to a person or a family.And one big problem is that traditional home security systems are helpless to deal with this, because they are reactive. Once an intruder is inside or actively breaking in, then the system goes off. So the trauma is already going to be there for the homeowner. That’s why we trust Simplisafe to protect our home. They’re different. Plus, our listeners are going to get 60% off in Simplisafe’s biggest sale of the year. The reason we love our Simplisafe home security system is we know it’s proactive. If an possible intruder comes up to our door, their live agents will jump on the situation. They’ll confront the person, tell them police are on the way, and start sounding alarms and flashing lights. That Active Guard Outdoor Protection is a pretty good deterrent for a criminal. You don’t have to do anything, you don’t have to monitor alerts themselves. Their AI-powered cameras and live human agents will do it all for you. We’ve used our Simplisafe home security system for  years. It’s a brand that we trust, that’s become a part of our lives and our own peace of mind. As true crime podcasters, we’ve gotten threats, so we take security seriously. We trust Simplisafe to protect our family from burglars, criminals, and anyone who might do us harm. Don’t miss out on SimpliSafe’s biggest sale of the year—60% off. Right now, our listeners can save 60% off on a SimpliSafe home security system at SimpliSafe dot com slash MSHEET. That’s SimpliSafe dot com slash MSHEET. There’s no safe like SimpliSafe.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Spin Docs is our segment where we scrutinize true crime docuseries and documentaries. Today, we will speak about Netflix's The Perfect Neighbor, which chronicles the killing of young mother Ajike Owens by Susan Lorincz on June 2, 2023 through body camera footage.Find discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to [email protected] Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLCWe love Cornbread Hemp’s CBD gummies. We’ve had a busy year in terms of writing and promoting our crime nonfiction book, and continuing to produce the podcasts. Cornbread Hemp gummies have helped us with sleep, stress, aches, and more.Cornbread Hemp’s CBD gummies help us manage everything. We’ve been using their berry CBD gummies, which taste so good, and their sleep CBD gummies and their CBD lotion. What we love about Cornbread Hemp is that these products work with your body, not against it. We’ve been really impressed by the results and enjoy adopting them as part of our wellness routines.  As a tense and pretty anxious person, Cornbread Hemp’s CBD gummies help me feel less stress. These gummies are made with full spectrum CBD for maximum potency, plus their Flower-Only extraction means you’re not eating sticks, stems, or leaves. It's all organic, vegan and gluten freeCornbread Hemp is all about quality products. They’re looking to help improve your quality of life through the highest quality CBD. Plus, they’re based in our neighboring state, Kentucky, which has a hemp tradition going back 250 years. Cornbread products are all third-party lab-tested and are USDA organic. So what you’re getting is safe and pure CBD. And as a reminder, CBD is non-intoxicating. Right now, Murder Sheet listeners can save 30% on their first order! Just head to cornbread hemp dot com slash MSHEET and use code MSHEET at checkout. That’s cornbreadhemp dot com slash MSHEET, and use code MSHEET.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

We interviewed former Sacramento County District Attorney Anne Marie Schubert about her work on the Golden State Killer case and the 1991 yogurt shop murders investigation.Check out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to [email protected] Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.It's fall. The air’s crisp. The sky’s darker in the evening. The holidays are drawing closer. Time to bundle up and get cozy with the latest sweaters, outerwear, and essential layers from Quince.We love our sponsor Quince. We shop there all the time. We love getting luxury goods for less. Quince has prices that are 50% less than similar brands because they cut out the middlemen to get you quality items at a reasonable price. Washable silk tops and skirts, Italian wool coats, and of course their signature mongolian cashmere sweaters. As the temperatures drop, I’m once again returning to my black V-Neck Sweater and a dark blue Turtleneck Sweater, both in Mongolian cashmere. I love how they feel. But I'm also mixing things up with two new purchases. One, my Mongolian cashmere fisherman crewneck sweater in ivory. It's so cozy. And the other is a black 100% washable silk long sleeve mini dress, for the holidays.I love my two new Quince sweaters, too. They’re warm and keep me comfortable against the autumn chill. Check them out. Also, Aine has a cute blue beret that I love and she has begun wearing.I love that beret.Step into the holiday season with layers made to feel good, look polished, and last— from Quince. Perfect for gifting or keeping for yourself. Go to Quince dot com slash msheet for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. That’s Q-U-I-N-C-E dot com slash msheet to get free shipping and 365-day returns. Quince dot com slash msheetSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The Cheat Sheet is The Murder Sheet's segment breaking down weekly news and updates in some of the murder cases we cover. In this episode, we'll talk about cases from Indiana and France.Fox 59 broadcast the brief hearing in the case of Mark Sanchez's alleged assault on Perry Tole: https://fox59.com/news/indycrime/mark-sanchezs-attorneys-participate-in-initial-hearing-in-marion-county-court/BBC's coverage of the conviction of Cédric Jubillar for the murder of Delphine Jubillar: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crexz473pvxoLe Monde's coverage of the conviction of Cédric Jubillar for the murder of Delphine Jubillar: https://www.lemonde.fr/en/police-and-justice/article/2025/10/17/cedric-jubillar-sentenced-to-30-years-in-prison-for-murder-of-his-wife_6746530_105.htmlNBC's coverage of the Louvre heist: https://www.nbcnews.com/world/europe/louvre-reopens-jewel-heist-thieves-police-paris-rcna239064Find discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to [email protected] Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.It’s full-fledged fall out there. It’s sweater season. And I’m thrilled about it because it means we went on a new Quince shopping spree.We love our sponsor Quince. It’s our go-to for quality pieces. They offer $50 Mongolian cashmere sweaters for everyday style.  Italian wool coats with designer cuts. Fashionable denim. Silk tops and skirts to upgrade your closet. The perfect ingredients for a wardrobe that’s affordable, easy to maintain, and always in style. Just recently, I got Kevin two lovely-looking new Quince sweaters. One is a black Australian Merino Wool Cable Crewneck Sweater. The other is a true navy Mongolian cashmere crewneck sweater. I think he looks rather handsome in them. Plus, they’re super comfortable and easy to wear. I’m not one for expanding my style all that often, but Quince makes it so easy by offering prices 50% less than other brands. They cut out the middlemen and make it easy for you to spruce up your style this holiday season. Check them out now. Step into the holiday season with layers made to feel good, look polished, and last— from Quince. Perfect for gifting or keeping for yourself. Go to Quince dot com slash msheet for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. That’s Q-U-I-N-C-E dot com slash msheet to get free shipping and 365-day returns. Quince dot com slash msheet.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

On August 31, 1976, Patty Otto vanished from Lewiston, Idaho.On August 27, 1978, a group of hunters found human remains in the woods of Finley Creek, Oregon.Did they find Patty?Now, Patty's daughter Suzanne Timms and advocate Mel Jederberg are searching for answers.Check out Patty's Voice on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Pattys-Voice-100077422495262/And TikTok: tiktok.com/@pattysvoice22Check out Finley Creek Jane Doe on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/finleycreekjanedoe/And TikTok: tiktok.com/@finleycreekjanedoeCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to [email protected] Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC. You can’t live the good life without good sleep. Our sponsor Cornbread Hemp crafts quality CBD gummies to help with that. And they’ve been aiding us in the shut eye department even when we’re all wired after spending the day chasing down horrible murder cases.Cornbread Hemp’s sleep CBD gummies have valerian root, chamomile, lavender, and full spectrum hemp extract. They help us wind down. I struggle to fall asleep.I have a hard time staying asleep.These gummies from Cornbread Hemp have helped us both. Cornbread has helped me settle down at night, which I really appreciate. I feel myself getting sleepier and sleepier, until I drift off.   It’s the first USDA organic, melatonin-free CBD gummy in America. It’s gluten-free, vegan, and doesn’t have a sugar coating. It’s clean, natural, and the perfect addition to your wellness routine. CBD is non-intoxicating, and Cornbread’s CBD is third-party tested and USDA organic. Right now, Cornbread Hemp is offering 30% off your first order! Just go to cornbreadhemp.com/MSHEET and use code MSHEET at checkout. That’s cornbreadhemp.com/MSHEET, code MSHEET, for 30% off!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Spin Docs is our new segment where we scrutinize true crime docuseries and documentaries. Today, we will speak about Netflix's Monster: The Ed Gein Story. This is the third season of Monster, a crime docudrama anthology series from Ryan Murphy and Ian Brennan. We are joined by a very special guest: Harold Schechter. Schechter wrote a definitive book on Gein: Deviant: The Shocking True Story of the Original "Psycho." He told us about some of the blatant inaccuracies in this season of Monster.Learn more about the true story of Ed Gein and get Schechter's book Deviant: The Shocking True Story of the Original "Psycho": https://bookshop.org/p/books/deviant-harold-schechter/89ed8968332485b8?ean=9781668048177&next=tCheck out Schechter's other terrific crime nonfiction books here or wherever you get your books: https://bookshop.org/beta-search?keywords=Harold+SchechterFind discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to [email protected] Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.Studying true crime tells us that sometimes, the worst can happen. There’s real danger out there, and you never know when it can strike within your own home.The big problem with traditional home security systems is that they react after an intruder is already breaking in or inside. After your safety and space has already been violated. That’s why we trust Simplisafe to protect our home. And you can too — Murder Sheet listeners are going to get a great deal during Simplisafe’s biggest sale of the year, getting 60% off when you go to Simplisafe dot com slash MSHEET.Our Simplisafe home security system is proactive. When your system detects potential criminals outside your residence, live agents are on it. They will confront potential criminals before they even break in, to let them know someone’s watching. That’s what Active Guard Outdoor Protection is all about. You don’t have to see any alerts. Monitoring agents take care of everything for you, confronting the intruders with the news that police are on the way, flashing spotlights, and sounding loud sirens. Plus, they have a 60 day money-back guarantee, so there’s no risk to you trying it out for yourself.That innovativeness is why we’ve used Simplisafe for years. We trust them to protect ourselves as well as our dog and executive producer Lani. As true crime podcasters, we know all too well how important — how live-saving — a home security system can be. Our home is where we relax. Where we work. Where we sleep at night. We want to feel protected all the time, because we know all the scary stories. And we trust Simplisafe to prevent those kinds of things from happening to us. Don’t miss out on SimpliSafe’s biggest sale of the year—60% off. Right now, our listeners can save 60% off on a SimpliSafe home security system at SimpliSafe dot com slash MSHEET. That’s SimpliSafe dot com slash MSHEET. There’s no safe like SimpliSafe.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The Cheat Sheet is The Murder Sheet's segment breaking down weekly news and updates in some of the murder cases we cover. In this episode, we'll talk about cases from Pennsylvania, New York, Arkansas, Missouri, Mississippi, and Texas.The Associated Press on the execution of Lance Shockley for the murder of Missouri State Highway Patrol Sgt. Carl Dewayne Graham Jr.: https://apnews.com/article/missouri-execution-lance-shockley-65034ffbd169154ecc1b593a072b7dd2A court filing on Roy Lee Ward’s murder of Stacy Payne: https://www.in.gov/courts/files/order-other-2025-25S-SD-167-082725.pdfThe Indiana Capital Chronicle’s coverage of Roy Lee Ward’s murder of Stacy Payne: https://indianacapitalchronicle.com/2025/09/23/ward-clemency-hearing-victims-family-asks-for-no-mercy-defense-cites-autism-diagnosis-remorse/CNN’s article on the execution of Charles Ray Crawford for the murder of Kristy Ray: https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/15/us/charles-crawford-mississippi-executionKDKA Radio’s article on recent developments in the disappearance of Cherrie Mahan: https://www.audacy.com/kdkaradio/news/local/new-info-in-40-year-old-disappearance-of-cherrie-mahanThe Butler Eagle’s article on recent developments in the disappearance of Cherrie Mahan: https://www.butlereagle.com/20250929/cadaver-dogs-employed-in-search-for-cherrie-mahan/Big Country’s article on the resolved hostage situation in Sweetwater, Texas: https://www.bigcountryhomepage.com/news/sweetwater/door-dash-driver-alerts-police-to-hostage-situation-after-delivering-suspicious-items-to-sweetwater-motel/A statement from the police department in Sweetwater, Texas on the resolved hostage crisis : https://www.facebook.com/swpd79556/posts/press-release-update-9232025-after-the-initial-incident-further-investigation-re/1220508086771397/CNN’s report on Aaron Spencer’s killing of Michael Fosler and subsequent candidacy for sheriff: https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/14/us/aaron-spencer-sheriff-arkansas-cecCBS6 Albany's exclusive report on Lorenz Kraus's confession around the murder of Franz and Theresia Kraus: https://cbs6albany.com/news/local/cbs6-exclusive-son-confesses-to-killing-parents-arrested-in-cbs6-parking-lot-albany-police-uncover-double-mystery-financial-crimes-and-bodies-at-crestwood-court-franz-and-teresa-kraus-lorenz-krausThe Hudson Valley Post report on Lorenz Kraus's confession around the murder of Franz and Theresia Kraus: https://hudsonvalleypost.com/presidential-candidate-from-upstate-new-york-admits-killing-missing-parents/CBS's report on Lorenz Kraus's confession around the murder of Franz and Theresia Kraus: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lorenz-kraus-confesses-tv-interview-killing-parents-albany-new-york/We also relied on the Boston Globe via Newspapers.com.Check out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to [email protected] Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.As busy true crime podcasters covering so many cases, we have to make a pretty strenuous effort to clean our house at the end of the day — that’s frankly time we could spend unwinding and relaxing after a day spent in court or on the phone wrangling FOIA records.That’s why we find our wonderful new sponsor Homeaglow so amazing. Homeaglow is a top-rated home service platform. They’re all about making your space clean and tidy. Say you’ve got a special occasion or party coming up. Their online booking capabilities ensure you can hop on there, schedule a cleaner in an instant. They’re affordable, convenient, and sometimes so necessary for beating the stress around house cleaning. Then there’s one less thing for you to have to manage. It’s peace of mind. Because you know you’re getting a cleaner who’s passed a rigorous certification process — these cleaners all have to maintain a 4.8 star average. Oh, and 100% of all the cleaning fees and tips you pay go directly to your cleaner. You’ll be supporting workers in your community.Here’s how it works. You hop on Homeaglow’s website. You lock down a date and time, and duration of the cleaner. Then you match with a cleaner. It’s great for those last-minute tidying sessions before a big event or your friends stopping by. 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This is the second part of an interview with a woman we call G. She was Kensu’s wife before he murdered Scott Macklem. She is also the mother of Leyna, who we previously had on the program. She fled Kensu and survived.Check out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to [email protected] Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Temujin Kensu is often held out as both a wrongfully convicted man and an inspirational, gentle icon within true crime. He is neither.The interview is with a woman we call G. She was Kensu’s wife before he murdered Scott Macklem. She is also the mother of Leyna, who we previously had on the program. She fled Kensu and survived.Check out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to [email protected] Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Correction: Wendi, not Charles, is the youngest Adelson sibling.On July 18, 2014, hired hitmen named Sigfredo Garcia and Luis Rivera hunted down law professor Dan Markel and shot him in Tallahassee, Florida. He died the next day. Katherine Magbanua, the mother of Garcia's children, was implicated in the plot, as was her former boyfriend Charles Adelson, Markel's former brother-in-law. Garcia, Charles Adelson, and Magbanua received exentsive sentences, with Rivera acting as a cooperating witness and cutting a deal. Most recently, Donna Adelson, the victim's former mother-in-law, was convicted of first degree murders, conspiracy, and solicitation on September 4, 2025.On October 13, 2025, she was sentenced to life in prison. We will talk about the sentencing hearing in this case.Check out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Find discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsSend tips to [email protected] Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.Cornbread Hemp’s CBD gummies are a gamechanger.  We deal with aches. Pains. Discomfort. Stress. A desperate need to unwind at the end of a tough day. Well, Cornbread Hemp’s CBD gummies help us manage all of that. They give us a natural way to achieve relief from aches and pains. They work with your body, not against it, and they’ve become a big part of our wellness routines. Cornbread Hemp’s CBD gummies have made me feel so much better. I tense up a lot, so I often deal with tension headaches and neck pain. With tasty flavors like watermelon and berry, these gummies help me with pain and sleeplessness. I can take them in the middle of a hectic work day, or even at night once I want to relax and watch a mystery movie with Kevin. These gummies make me feel like my stress is just melting away.Cornbread Hemp provides a quality product. They use hemp flowers to get you the purest, most potent CBD. Cornbread products are all third-party lab-tested and are USDA organic. So what you’re getting is safe and pure CBD. And as a reminder, CBD is non-intoxicating. Right now, Murder Sheet listeners can save 30% on their first order! Just head to cornbread hemp dot com slash MSHEET and use code MSHEET at checkout. That’s cornbreadhemp.com slash MSHEET, and use code MSHEET.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.