EPISODE 15: Not With a Bang, But With a Whimper

And just like that, it's over. What are we supposed to do with the Justice-League-shaped hole in our lives? Don't answer that.  Thanks for listening to our ramblings. If you enjoyed the show, please tell a friend or leave us a review on your podcast platform of choice.  Ian is available for podcast production, including music commissions. He wrote the theme and the interstitial music you heard in the show. Go here and get in touch.  Rest in peace ZSJL.

In this, our final interview/non-recap episode, Nat and Ian are joined by author and screenwriter Bill Hanstock, who helps them break down some of the myriad reasons why Zack Snyder's Justice League fails. Bill has some great insights into the storytelling shortcomings of the film from the perspective of someone who does this for a living.  Follow Bill on twitter @sundownmotel and buy his book, We Promised You a Great Main Event: An Unauthorized WWE History, here. 

In this episode, Nat and Ian discuss part 6, the final non-Epilogue section of the Snyder Cut. Spoiler: It's really bad.  Theme and bumper music by Interesting Times Gang.  Outro music: Operation Ivy, "Unity." 

Wesley Goatley is a sound artist and researcher based in London. He shared his thoughts about ZSJL, superheroes movies as a genre, and the cognitive dissonance that must be happening in the Snyder Cut Community. 

Nat and Ian discuss part 5: All the King's Horses. Folks, we are officially in the home stretch. It's almost over. Pray for us. 

Mat Ellis is a musician and film scholar who has some THOUGHTS about the Snyder Cut.  Follow Mat on twitter @matthiasellis and check out his show on Repeater Radio.  Outro music: A Hope for Home, "The Overman." 

In this episode, Nat and Ian discuss part 4 of ZSJL, Change Machine, and try and figure out why no one thought to jot down the coordinates of the only planet ever to defeat Darkseid -- and that also happened to contain the anti-life equation. 

This is definitely our best sounding episode to date; both Grant and David are seasoned professionals with fancy microphones. Also, neither of them have seen the Snyder Cut, but we still managed to talk about it for an hour, and it was hilarious! (See accompanying photo for proof.) GRANT BRISBEE founded McCovey Chronicles and is now a staff writer at The Athletic. He has not seen Justice League.  DAVID ROTH is a founder of the Defector and is the nation's foremost authority on former president Donald J. Trump. He has not yet seen Justice League. Intro and interstitial music by Interesting Times Gang. Outro music by Extreme. 

Here in part 3, we get the Cyborg origin story in all its megatronic and organic glory. There's also a 45-minute long Wonder Woman monologue and  we get to sit in on an intergalactic conference call to Apokalips. 

Chris Wade is podcast royalty: co-host of Infinite Cast and And Introducing, and producer/fifth mic on Chapo Trap House. Chris has some great insights on the Snyder Cut and the online campaign that brought it into being. We also discuss the score and soundtrack and Chris' non-Chapo work.