Introduction-

In this episode I am sitting down with email marketing expert Jen Goff to talk about what happens when you stop relying on social media alone and start building a client list you actually own. We also unpack pivots, health, and the unglamorous systems that make a beauty business feel stable, sustainable, and deeply aligned. • Jen’s path from hair and makeup to spray tanning to email marketing • The moment the “where do clients come from?” question hits • Why depending only on the algorithm feels scary • How email automations and workflows create stability • Writing emails with clarity instead of perfectionism • Using newsletters to build relationships instead of constant selling • Promoting with a long warm-up runway for launches and Black Friday • Building a business that can run during maternity leave If this conversation resonated with you, please be sure to follow the show, plus leave me a review. And most importantly, be sure to share it with a woman who's building something meaningful and remind her she's allowed to do it her way. 

Two minutes before her dad’s funeral, Anna Hollowell is doing what so many service providers have done in a crisis: texting clients to reschedule and trying to keep the business running. That moment cracks everything open and forces a question that hits hard for beauty entrepreneurs, spray tan artists, and wellness pros alike: what is success actually worth if you’re never allowed to be human?  Today we're discussing redefining what peace & presence looks like as an entrepreneur in the sunless industry!I’m joined by Anna, a Wichita, Kansas spray tan artist and licensed aesthetician who has built Glow Gals, expanded into ear piercing, permanent jewelry, and a custom lip gloss bar, and now helps other beauty and wellness professionals show up online through Booked Babe Social Co. We talk through the real timeline of growth, why she didn’t rush to stack services early, and how seasonality in the spray tanning industry should push you toward stronger marketing skills, not frantic expansion.We also name the part no one puts on a highlight reel: the emotional labor of holding space for clients’ weddings, funerals, insecurities, and stress, then carrying that energy home. Anna shares practical boundaries and a simple end-of-day reset that helps her decompress, protect her mental health, and create a business that can flex when life happens. The big takeaway is quiet but powerful: beautiful businesses aren’t built by doing more, they’re built by doing what actually matters.If you’re building a sustainable beauty business, craving time freedom, or trying to prevent burnout while staying booked, listen now, subscribe, & please leave a review!Connect with Anna on instagram:@glowgalsict@bookedbabesocialcoFollow the show @creatingmorethanpretty

A flawless spray tan takes minutes. Building a mobile beauty business that can support your life takes years of invisible work, brave choices, and a lot of boundaries. I’m sitting down with Brielle Camiolo, the owner of DEITY PHL, a Philly-based mobile spray tanning service she started at 20 and has kept strictly mobile for nearly a decade. She shares the real story behind the glow: the early missteps, the constant learning, and the mindset that pushed her from “I can do this” to “I can do this better.”We get honest about what clients don’t see in a 15-minute appointment: deep cleaning guns and tents, ordering supplies, building extra time between stops, and planning ahead so you’re not rushing from one home to the next. Brielle also breaks down the people side of the spray tan industry, from managing different personalities to setting clear policies when clients skip prep or aftercare. If you’re a beauty entrepreneur, this is the kind of operational talk that makes your business stronger and your client experience more consistent.Then we go deeper into the emotional labor of mobile work: driving in silence to reset, reading the room, matching energy, and learning how to “not people” for a minute so you can keep showing up with care. Brielle shares what burnout looked like after COVID, why social media can be misleading, and how tightening her service radius and raising prices helped her work smarter without losing her love for the craft. If you’re thinking about going full time, increasing prices, or simply doing business in a way that feels aligned, you’ll leave with practical ideas and a reminder that “more than pretty” starts behind the scenes.Subscribe for more conversations like this, share this with a friend building something meaningful, and leave a review so more creative entrepreneurs can find the show. Connect with me on instagram: @creatingmorethanprettyConnect with Brielle on instagram @deityphl

There comes a point in every entrepreneur's journey when working harder stops producing better results. The business may continue to grow, but if the woman behind it isn't growing too, success can begin to feel surprisingly empty.In this episode, we're sitting down with Shonna Dexter CEO of Recreating Rays whose definition of success has transformed over the years. What started as a side hustle in her basement while balancing a full-time corporate career eventually became a thriving, multi location company. But the biggest milestones weren't measured in revenue—they were measured in self-awareness, healing, and learning how to lead differently.In this episode we talk about the pivotal shift from being an exceptional service provider to becoming a true CEO, building systems and a team that no longer depend on you being everywhere at once. Along the way, she shares how sobriety brought clarity, how a late ADHD diagnosis helped explain years of hyperfocus and burnout, and how navigating perimenopause challenged her to rethink the pace at which she wanted to build.Rather than chasing more hustle, she began pursuing something far more valuable: time affluence. Together, we explore why protecting your energy is just as important as protecting your profit, how nervous system regulation has become a leadership tool, and why sustainable growth requires creating a business that supports your life instead of consuming it.This conversation is ultimately about creating more than a beautiful business. It's about creating a business that gives you freedom, preserves your identity, strengthens your relationships, and opens doors for other women to grow alongside you.Because sometimes the greatest business strategy isn't another marketing plan or pricing change.Sometimes it's becoming the woman your next level of business has been waiting for.Lets connect on Instagram and keep the conversation going!Connect with Shonna @shonna.dexter, @sunlesslegacy & @recreatingraysConnect with me: @creatingmorethanpretty

Pretty results are easy to post. The hard part is the life happening behind the scenes while you build them. In this episode I’m joined by Jaclyn Cook, a 20-year spray tan industry veteran and the founder behind Phoenix Sunless and The Sunless Edit, to talk about what long-term success actually takes when you’re a woman running a beauty business, leading a team, and still trying to show up at home. We get into the real story of growth: the hustle-culture years with late nights and saying yes to everything, then the shift into boundaries and building a business that can run without you. Jaclyn shares how her definition of success changes from “I just want to make $500 a week” to time freedom like taking July off, traveling with family, and knowing revenue still comes in while she’s away. Along the way, we talk product innovation driven by actual client needs, the pressure of launching and relaunching an e-commerce brand, and what it feels like to carry the emotional weight of decisions that affect your family and your staff. One of the biggest takeaways is practical: protect your business relationships. We unpack why contracts matter even with friends, how to define expectations at the beginning, middle, and end, and why planning an exit strategy can save you money, stress, and heartbreak later. If you’re building a service business, a beauty brand, or a creative company that you want to feel aligned and sustainable, this conversation will meet you where you are. Subscribe, leave a review, and share this with a woman who needs the reminder that she’s allowed to do it her way.Connect with Jackie on Instagram: @phx.sunless @the.sunlessedit www.phxsunless.com www.shopsunlessedit.comConnect with Deana on Instagram: @creatingmorethanpretty

Pretty branding can get attention, but it can’t carry you through postpartum hormones, leadership pressure, and the quiet anxiety of wondering if the business still fits. I sit down with serial entrepreneur Sasha Fedunchak to talk about what happens when you outgrow a version of yourself and your company at the same time, and why “more than pretty” is about building from the inside out, not just curating what people see online.Sasha shares her path through multiple ventures, from the beauty world and creative branding work to brand photography and videography, and now helping small business owners sell their businesses. We get honest about the temptation to burn down what’s working, the pull to look more “professional,” and the way motherhood can force an identity shift you didn’t plan for. If you’ve ever felt yourself sliding into survival mode, ignoring your intuition, or trying to power through a season your body is begging you to slow down in, you’ll feel seen here.We also dig into what actually supports sustainable growth: gratitude as a grounding practice, mindset shifts like the seven levels of energy, and the practical value of building better systems instead of piling more onto your plate. Sasha offers a simple but powerful alternative to going it alone: creating a Personal Advisory Board, a trusted circle you can lean on for both real strategy and real support.Subscribe to Creating More Than Pretty, leave a review, and share this conversation with a woman building something meaningful. What part of your business are you ready to let yourself do your way?

We talk about what happens when a business looks successful on the outside but feels misaligned on the inside, especially while raising kids and managing multiple brands. Emily shares how systems, boundaries, and honest self-checks helped her choose peace over pressure and start planning a future that fits her life.• Emily’s life update from postpartum to running multiple businesses again • Buying a long-time local bikini store and adding a wax studio • Redefining success around time with kids and real quality of life • The mental load of motherhood plus entrepreneurship and why it matters • Building systems that run without you and the hidden cost of managing people • Why burnout can hit hardest once things finally feel “stable” • How social media can push you into models you only admire • Health, stress, and the decision to stop sacrificing well-being for growth • Permission to pivot & drop what isn’t working!• Creating opportunities for others without crossing your own boundaries *Plus the announcement she's been sitting with and is ready to share...If this conversation resonated with you, please be sure to follow the show plus leave me a review. And most importantly, be sure to share it with a woman who's building something meaningful and remind her that she's allowed to do it her way.Emily:@thebrowfoxEmily's businesses@browfoxbeauty @sloswim @suitespotslo

The Intro..Welcome to Creating More Than Pretty

Welcome to Creating More Than Pretty—the podcast for entrepreneurs building beautiful businesses from the inside out.This is a space for creative professionals who know their work is about more than aesthetics, More than trends, More than what looks good on the surface.Here, we are peeling back the layers of what it looks like to build businesses that feel aligned, sustainable, and deeply fulfilling—while still creating exceptional experiences and meaningful results for the people you serve. Be ready to hear real, unfiltered conversations from professionals who share their wins, lessons and their behind the scenes moments that don't always make it to the public eye.  Together, we’ll talk about growth, purpose, and the beauty that comes from building something meaningful — inside and out. Because the work you do creates more than what people see.

Mama, get ready because you're about to be  extremely inspired by my guest Emily, The Brow Fox!  She shares that when the pandemic hit and having her second child,  she found herself exhausted and in overwhelm while running her multiple beauty businesses.  Emily is so transparent in her struggles and explains how hitting this point forced her to restructure her business as a service provider to fit her and her families needs.  Often times clients can feel so connected {as a friend}, yet disconnected {as a mom with kids} from us by taking advantage of showing up late to appointments, canceling last minute or just not showing up. My guest was done with these scenarios!  Emily shares that restructuring her business around HER needs and setting clear boundaries allowed her to keep her job as a service provider. A recurring schedule gives her the structure and the flexibility that she WANTS and NEEDS!Emily is not only a service provider but a landlord and a product creator.  Like most moms she wears many hats, however in this episode she tells us what that truly looks like,  how she's evolving by creating structure in ALL her businesses that work around being a mom and how she is trying to incorporate self care as a top priority.  Which is honestly something we as women and moms should really try to do!  Let's Connect:@mamaknowsbeautybizpodcastConnect with Emily:@thebrowfox@browfoxbeauty@suitespotslo